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The supplements are not expensive, the research process is what is very costly (mostly doing all the measuring and evaluating and monitoring those numbers is what costs millions every year)

This is why its important to make a difference between intelligence and wisdom. Generally speaking, the smarter you get - counterintuitively - the more prone you will get to be a victim of self-deception. The reason for that is because you will be able to create and generate more and more sophisticated and deep rationalizations, arguments to others and to your own self; you will be better at creating your own ideas and defense for those ideas, so much so, that you will be less and less able to see through your own bullshit (unless you do consciousness work, where you zoom out, and take a look at it from a bigger picture or change your whole framework); and there will be less and less people who will be able to properly challenge your ideas, and all that can make you feel even stronger that you are right. In other words, you will be more better at defending your own framework (it can be a wordlview or an ideology or any specific idea or belief or bias of yours), and you will be less and less interested in changing the foundational assumptions of your own framework and can only argue inside your framework - and of course because you are so good at defending and comfortable inside your own framework - most people will never be able to challenge you properly , unless they can make you realize that your framework as a whole is not the best (even though it might be logically consistent). One could even say that the ego will get more and more antifragile (the more you attack the framework or the idea - depending on how intelligent the ego - the better it will get at defending the wordview or the idea)

Yeah. Maybe Bryan will invite you in his team and you can get inside his rich circle and take your LP to the next level @Michael569

Notice how you talk that women are so emotional, but at the same time the basis of this whole thread is coming from the place of you being upset. This whole thread is a big coping mechanism for you to deal with your emotions. You are doing endless rationalisations so that you don't need to take any accountability. Do you think a self-confident, well established, successful man would spent his life writing endless excuses why women is in the wrong?

Yeah I agree, I was just trying to challenge the idea, that "we already have most of the structural/existential things figured out", but I might have misinterpreted you, because it seems, we essentially agree that: Bro, all your constant talk and obsession about power, reminds me of Vegeta:

Have you seen the 2nd one?

Imo, our limitations determine how much we comprehend and how we perceive the fundamental dynamics and nature of life. - Can we actually decouple our perception of the fundamental dynamics of life from our limitations (when it comes to our ability to percieve, remember, comprehend,sense etc) and if yes, how would we know it? - or in other words: Is our perception of the fundamental dynamics of life actually = to all the fundemantal dynamics of life? - Would an ant have the same type of awakening about the fundamental nature of life, or it would be completely different in quality and in nature compared to humans? - Is our perception of enlightenment or awakening would be the exact same with a completely different brain or brainwiring?- would we even call it Awakening the same way as we do right now? Think about all the limitations when it comes to our contemplation and inquiry: Our brain can't really make sense of paradoxes and it start to struggle and break down. Our ability to think is limited by Law of excluded middle, and the law of noncontradiction and there is so much more limitation. The big mindfuck here is our perception of our own limitations, because thats what I questioned above. Is our ability to percieve our own limitations show our own limitations or is that limited itself by limitations that we can't percieve or know of?

This + finding intelligent alien life could both dramatically change our own view and the way we do philosophy and how we engage with the world. + of course gene editing and all kinds of other stuff that can help elevate our limitations when it comes to contemplation and thinking and questioning.

Our mind is way too fucking addicted to the internet and social media. Your challenge is only possible if you literally move somewhere, where there is no internet in a 50km radius and where you need to walk to get there. One of the biggest mistake when it comes to these challenges, is that we start with a very good, strong , motivated state of mind, and we forget and we have a hard time intuiting how hard these challenges can become when we have a low state of mind. So when you make a decision or a plan and your state of mind is extremely high, you should maybe cut in half the intensity or the duration of your challenge (because you are mindful that your state of mind probably won't stay the exact same way, when you started) or at the very least have some plan for what you will do, when the urges come. Yeah you won't really see novel points or any critical engagement with any material, especially when it comes to spirituality or philosophy. People here have a full list of deflection and self-deception arsenal that they can use, so they don't need to think or critically engage with anything (just bring up solipsism or spiral dynamics and you can know, that you are right and superior to everyone else).

I don't know if there is anything that could trump the unproductiveness and the irony of these debates about the Absolute and nonduality.

Stop with these incel posts. This thread screams the "Who hurt you bro" especially when it comes to @Mesopotamian and @DreamScape

This reminds me of fundamentalist christians, when they say "buddy, you can't falsify the christian God".

Thats definitely the future, and we are not talking about just physical health , but mental health also. Imagine from your birth having an AI friend that as time goes on, learns more and more things about your psychology, personality type, your strength and weaknesses , everyday tracks a lot of physical markers of yours, knows what you drink and eat at what time and in what quantity, knows all your potentially destructive and self deceptive behaviours, learns what excuses you use, and what your general logic and thoughtprocess is , maybe able to track your stress levels in such a precise way, that in the future it might be able to predict and then create situtations that can actually make you more resilient and strong by exposing you to proper levels of stress that you are capable of handling and going through and there is so much more.

This is not something new or surprising, this has always been the case - that rhetoric is important and its important for everyone - and it is dishonest to say otherwise. For instance, If there is someone who is constantly calling you and your mother and your family and your friends names, you will automatically be less open to what that person has to say and thats good , because why would you? Why would you give the same amount of time and attention to everyone without analysing their level of consciousness, education, knowledge, character, openness , intelligence etc. The problem comes when you delude yourself so much, that you think that using asshole rhetoric is necessary. Delivering and conveying your message in an asshole way isn't necessary - its a choice - and it is counterproductive. You can say that 1)"the sky is blue" or you can say 2)"the sky is fucking blue and I am better than you in every possible way , you pathetic,worthless loser". If the main message was to communicate the color of the sky, then you can see how full of noise the second example is, and how much harder it is to be open to it and how it makes the focus on character attack, rather than whats actually important.

I understand that the realization of the absolute can be helpful sometimes (but even in those cases, it is nowhere near sufficient alone), and in most cases, knowing the Absolute is not necessary to solve a relative problem. The realization that "everything is imaginary" is completely useless , unless you can have direct control over said imagination. Here is a set of questions regarding this. 1) Can you stop imagining time? 2) Can you stop imagining your survival needs (food, water , oxygen etc) 3) Can you stop imagining all your current human limitations right now? 4) Can you stop imagining causality? 5) Can you imagine 10 million dollars to your bank account? "I have a broken arm, what should I do?" a) go to a doctor b) realize that your broken arm is just imaginary What do you think which option is more practical and helpful?

A guidance or a plan that is specifically given/created to help someone to solve/overcome a problem or a situation. Physical pain isn't absolute either, but its lack of absoluteness has literally no bearing on how bad it is for a person who has extreme physical pain. The question in this context is not whether something is absolute or not, it is whether you can change something or have an effect on something. So if the realisation of "everything is imaginary" won't have any direct effect on a problem, then in that context its useless.

Thats irrelevant to his point - his point was - that if someone wants to give a prescription, then be as concrete as possible and avoid being so vague that your prescription either won't mean anything, or won't hold any utility to that person. The whole point of giving a prescription is to provide information and things to that person that is practical to them and to their problem/situation. Whats the utility in using the word "imaginary" there? Yeah its about posturing how enlightened they are, without providing practical guidance or useful information. Its like the one kid in the class who learned something new and now use that thought to reiterate it every time he is fronted with any question or problem, regardless of how useful or practical it is for that particular problem or situation. Its almost like you are seeing Leo wannabees everywhere without his rational and practical side.

Redpill at this point is like 5% truth and 95% delusion and incompetence to deal with your trauma that you got from girls that rejected you or bullied you. The godfather of redpill (RolloTomassi) when can't debate and shit on young women, he can only give incoherent arugments and just rambling and shaking without saying anything value. If the head of an ideology is this bad, then what the fuck can we expect from all the other followers? Rolo debate starts around 12:00

You can't live without beliefs - there are things that you can't test and you need to assume to be true (for pragmatic reasons).

Bro you can do better than this, pleaase be more responsible with your threads and titles, this is like your 5th thread where you present information in a sloppy , biased and unresponsible and uncritical manner. Develop some epistemic humility, because thats rare asf here, but very much needed. This forum is supposed to be full of high conscious and well educated people, so lets at least somewhat try to live up to that standard.

This is a crazy article "GPT AI Enables Scientists to Passively Decode Thoughts in Groundbreaking Study" https://www.artisana.ai/articles/gpt-ai-enables-scientists-to-passively-decode-thoughts-in-groundbreaking

There is no proving or disproving of what you said. Proving or disproving already assumes some kind of a grounding ( a framework or an epistemic process that we agree on or take for granted ) that we can use to evaluate a claim's truth value. If you want to get to the bottom of it, you need to repeteadly ask yourself "how do I know this". and you will end up with either an infinite regress or with a paradox and with the "I can't know for sure". Not being able to know something 100%, doesn't make that thought or claim automatically true - its just lack of knowledge or lack of knowing. But then again, why focus on this conspiracy and not any other thought?

There is a difference between giving advice to an individual vs doing politics / analysing what the structural and systemic problems are and how could we make the world better. If I talk to an individual there is almost no utility in talking about all the systemic problems that makes his life more hard or worse (I can acknowledge all that to be emphatetic, but that won't solve his problems and won't give him any tools that he can use to solve his problems), the best thing I can do is to give him a toolkit that he can use, so that he can make his life better. On the other hand, we obviously shouldn't forget about the systemic issues. Its very clear already (based on a lot of empirical data), that if you grow up in a harsh environment, you will have a much much lower chance and a much harder time to become a successful human being. Is there still a possibility that you can pull it off? Yes, but the question shouldn't be about whether it is possible, but should be about this: Given all the data about your past and current circumstances, how likely it is that you can pull it off? Do you have a 30-20-10% chance or you have a 0.002% chance? After that question we can also ask: is it reasonable to hold to the same standard two different person: one person who has 0.002% chance and the other dude who is now successful, but he had 30% chance? Then after all that thinking we can come to the conclusion that it is very reasonable to consciously and carefully and thoughtfully build such structures and evironment that will produce better, more concious, more intelligent people in general.

What other tools and frameworks do you use that could be useful, when it comes to talking with an AI? I have a few to add here: 1) "What are the absolute coolest, most mind-blowing, out of the box, ChatGPT prompts that will really show off the power of ChatGPT? Give me 10" If you give this prompt to ChatGPT or to GPT4 it will generate a list of prompts that will be generally very useful or interesting or creative. Then you can grab and copy one of the prompts from the list that it gave you , open a new chat and paste the prompt and see what it says. If you want to, you can make this prompt more specific and narrow it down to this for example : "What are the absolute coolest, most mind-blowing, out of the box, ChatGPT prompts that will really show off the power of ChatGPT? Give me 10 (the context for the prompts should be earning money". Of course, if you use GPT4 then you can change ChatGPT to GPT4 in the prompts. 2) When it comes to learning about any new topic or framework, I have a list of questions that could be helpful: -what are the main axioms, what gives rise to x? -list all the main laws/main principles of that system -What are the main concepts or ideas in this topic? Create a table where in the first column you give a description of this situation/problem (analysis) and then in the second column you give a prescription -What are the main functions of this system? What is exclusive or inherent to this framework or thoughtprocess? -How the x system's main functions could be replaced in the y system? -what are the assumptions of this system/thought/framework? -what are the underlying biases? -what are the implications of this? -What are the key metrics or indicators that are used to measure the success of this concept? -What are some examples or applications of this topic? (Real world examples could be aswell) -What are some of the gaps or limitations of this concept? -What are the key debates or controversies surrounding this concept? -How does this concept apply to different contexts or situations? -What are some of the paradoxes or contradictions in this concept? -What are some of the alternative or complementary perspectives to this concept? -What evidence do you have to support this? -What counterarguments do you have against this? -What are the different stakeholders involved in this concept? How do their interests differ? -What are the most common misunderstandings about this concept? -What are the most common pitfalls and main causes for failures regarding this concept? -What kind of analysis could you offer for this concept -What are some of the patterns or trends that emerge from this concept? How has this concept evolved over time and across cultures? What are the key historical milestones? - How does system thinking could be applied here? -What are some of the sources or resources that I can use to learn more about this concept? -How does X concept affect Y concept? 3) Use AI's help to create better prompts: "I want you to become my prompt engineer. Your goal is to help me craft the best possible prompt for my needs. This prompt will be used by you. You will follow the following processes. 1. Your first response will ask me what the prompt should be about. I will provide my answer, but we will need to improve it through continual iterations by going through the next steps. 2. Based on my input, you will generate 2 sections. a) Revised prompt (provide your rewritten prompt. it should be clear, concise, and easily understood by you), b) Questions (ask any relevant questions pertaining to what additional information is needed from me to improve the prompt). 3. We will continue this iterative process with me providing additional information to you and you updating the prompt in the Revised prompt section until I say we are done."