Fran11

From an Absolute POV, there's nothing that differentiates Dreams from Waking Consciousness. So, Metaphysically speaking, there aren't many new things to say about them. Their "substance" is of course Consciousness and their "where" is of course No-where. Their only Metephsycial difference with Waking Consciousness is that Dreams are subtler/higher vibration/lower density or whatever you like to call it. Which is what makes them more fluid than Waking Consciousness. About their cause, from an Absolute POV there's nothing new to say either. They are not occurring "inside" the brain, but as we know, when Consciousness experiences itself from a human POV, there's a correlation beetween brain activity (which continues in sleep to an external observer) and perception. This brain activity, plus the psychological subconcious factor you mentioned, could be said to be the cause in a Relative sense.

Both and transcendent. God's "chaos" its infinite creative potentiality. God's "order" its pulling out a finite, defined and perfectly ordered dream/reality out of that potentiality.

That's why I used brackets smartass "Physical" is just a way of calling a very "dense" form of consciousness, there are less dense levels as well.

Yes. My point was that it will take more than just the death of the physical body to dissolve in the way you describe, duality extends beyond the superficial "phsycial" reality.

If by death you just mean death of the phsyical body... no, consciousness does not dissolve after that. Subtle bodies are real and you can become conscious of them thourgh specific practices.

Beautiful read man, thanks for sharing ?

I have mixed feelings towards some life-long friends of mine. I deeply care about them and I love them, but on the other hand, they are highly immature and unconscious in many regards. Their interests don't go beyond S. Orange stuff and I feel they drag me down and play a role in me keep falling back into toxic habits. Besides, I feel the distance beetween us increases as I advanced on my personal path, becouse they aren't growing. I know this is common for Self-Actualizers and I'm sure many of you have faced the same dilema, so any advice is appreciated.

@electroBeam So when one gets to the verge of Mahasamadhi doesn't really know what's beyond it unless one completely dissolves into it, right? Mindblowing man... I would be lying if I said I understood everything you said becouse these things are of course beyond comprehension and I've never had my consciousness risen to a near-Mahasamadhi level. Very interesting post and thanks for replying. Much love!

How sure are you that after Mahasamadhi even if your current thread of reincarnations/dreams ends, you won't just start all over again as a low-consciousness life form? Can God really escape its own Imagination?

I consider them to be Orange with shades of Blue and Red. I've found that at this point I can only relate with people who are at least Green. So I don't think I can make it work, in the sense of spending as much time with them as I have until now. Yeah it's no joke. For me one of the biggest problems is that they are pretty heavy pot smokers, and having been one myself, our frendship plays a role in making me fall back into that habit occasionally, in the form of binges.

I feel you man. For me it's not only about steping down intelectually but also spiritually, like having to pretend I care about S. Organge materialistic values more than I really do. I'm sorry to hear that. I had some "friends" like that as well, but those I had no problem cutting them out of my life becouse their shitty attitude made it very easy to see that it was the right thing to do and I had no second-thoughts about it. It's the "good but underdeveloped" the ones that I have mixed feelings about. I guesd I'll just start spending less time with them as everyone suggested and see how it works.

Great piece of advice. That would be a nice balance, progressively spending less time with them, but when I do, give my best to make sure it's a high quality time and they feel I care about them. Very true. I noticed this problem a coulpe years ago, that after spending some time on a social interaction, then when I was left alone, my mind still kept entangled with it. What helped me to greatly reduce it is noticing as quickly it arises and giving up my interest on that recent social interaction (desire that I had done something different, desire for more interaction, wondering things about those people, etc.) Thank you all for your replies guys, very much appreciated as always.

Yes, that's what I'm trying to do. I kinda feel bad about completely cutting them off becouse we've been together for so long, and they don't mean wrong. But as you say, we just took different paths in life, and the distance beetween our values and interests grows more and more. Thanks for replying, I appreciate it

Yeah, but following that analogy, you guys are like saying you cannot even reach that little handul of sand without Psychedelics Like I said above: My point is that Spiritual developement is Infinite even without using substances, although of course the progress is much slower (but lasting) without them, nobody disputes that.

Man I respect you a lot and I don't mean to come off as dense or offensive, but why are you so close minded about the limits of Spirtiual developement? Have you spent a couple years doing daily Imagination, Magic, Energy Work, Occult and those kind of more "vivid" practices so you can confirm that it's as limited as you think? Of course Psychedelics will always take you much higher your baseline, but you are greatly underestimating how high that baseline can go. You are free to disbelieve of course, but It's possible to do crazy things like becoming an inanimate object (which I have done) and even more amazing things like remote viewing (wich I haven't achieved yet but I know people who can).

Understandable. Hope it's been useful anyways

If hardware really was a limitation for Consciousness, then you wouldn't be able to reach Infinite Consciousness even thourgh Psyches becouse every hardware is limited Plus, you can separate your subtle bodies from your phsysical body (as in astral travels) and the brain and neurochemistry limitations will be long gone at that point. I'm suprised even you have such a materialistic view about this. I bet in a coulpe years of developement you will change your mind about this.

IME, the only way is thourgh very intense Imagination developement. I personally started doing Consciousness work before I even knew about Spirituality because of art. I recommend you check out the sensory concentration excercises in Franz Bardon's Initiation into Hermetics. You'll notice that Imagination has sort of "levels of density", very much like Psychedelic hallucinations look faint at low doses, but they become very solid and concrete as you up your dose. You have to condense your Imagination as much as possible, that's the sign of progress. You'll notice your Mindfulness and Consciousness grow along with it.

What I ment is that I have reached the same level of consciousness that before would take a moderate dose of LSD for me to achieve. Now having that baseline, that same dose takes me even higher, as it usually happens to everybody with Psyches if they do Consciousness work. A great way to "lock-in" the Psychedelic consciousness is trying to recreate those levels of Imagination the days after the trip IME. It's like steroids for Imagination developement so they are still extremely useful for me.

Yeah you are right, but if you reach the same levels of Consciousness and Imagination, and can completely replace "reality" with your Imagination at will... what do NTs matter?

That can be done by Visualizations and high Imagination developement. Believe it or not I've been into those practices for five years now and my sober consciousness is at the level of a moderate dose of LSD. And before I just had a normie consciousness so I don't think I was born with any special hardware. I don't say this to brag but to encourage others that it is possible. Part of the reason people highly underestimate how high sober consciousness can go is because they explore Psychedelic states but then their daily sober practices constist manily of dry concentrations which take you in a completely different direction...

For non-enlightened beings, almost every thought has an implicit "I", the personal thinker. That's why in order to experience non-dual consciousness we need to either completely still the Mind (by Meditation), or rise our consciousness to the point where false identifications are not possible even if the Mind is active (by taking Psychedelics for example). An enlightened Sage can think and talk to you without "coming out" of non-dual consciousness becouse his Mind is rewired in such a way that thoughts no longer create the sense of duality, plus his Consciousness is so high that it cannot confuse itself with thoughts anyomore.

Yes, thoughts are consciousness just like the "external world", but the default way of thinking causes identification with the thoughts and creates a false sense of duality (subject-object illusion), that's why sometimes we talk about silencing thoughts / stilling the mind. For example, having a car in your direct experience is no problem becouse it won't make you feel like you are just a car, but with thoughts you get identified, and that splits your experience into subject-object. Why does consciousness gets identified with thoughs? - Becouse they are much subtler (less dense) forms of cosciousness than "physical objects", so it's harder to realise them as just objects of perceptions. They feel "too close". - And becouse of their specific form / content: "I" in the personal construct sense (often called "I-thought"). None.

I understad why some cultures might feel ofended and it's a conscious attitude to put oneself in their shoes and be comprehensive and respectful. But in practice cultural blendings and transformations are natural and inevitable. I mean, should cultural costumes have copyrights or what?

This opens the door to so many teasing possibilities I don't even know where to begin