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@Leo Gura You've been saying for a while that your understanding and experience was beyond that of many teachers, but I feel your teachings and explainatory capacity hadn't catched up to that level until this particular video. Which is why before it kinda made you look bad to make such claims. I understand the direction you are pointing to and absolutely love the fact that you are taking your teachings beyond basic no-self spirituality.

Glad you've had some success so quickly. Keep working at it and you'll be suprised

Have you ever heard of moderation?

@kinesin Gave it an overview and it seems interesting. I'll read it carefuly when I have more time. Thanks for sharing!

Just like you couldn't create the color red, or the feeling of love, or the sound of a waterfall using lego-bricks even if you spent a million years trying out different combinations, the same way science will never be able to explain consciousness by studing brain cells' conections, because there is no possible conection (no matter how complex) that's equivalent to consciousness or even qualia. Consciousness is just not possible under the materialist paradigm. There's nothing rational or logical about the idea of consciousness being the byproduct of interconected cells. It just seems that way becouse of massive social indoctrination.

I developed a taste for it. It's natural you feel that way once you deconstruct your conditioned mind. Nothings is mundane anymore, every single perception and existence as a whole is magical and mysterious.

Hahaha yes I get that quite often, nice descrption. Reality is insane.

Do you feel you lack the courage to assert yourself in those situations where you freeze? The agresiveness could be a defense mechanism against the fear you feel when you need to defend yourself but don't have the emotional strenght to do it, so you need to completely lose it in order to do something about it.

This is a recurring topic on the forum so I want to share my insights about it in the most comprehensible way possible. Does anything exists outside of your perception? No. Am I having a conscious experience? Yes. How to reconcilie these two? Actually there's no contradiction, but to realise that you need to take a closer look at how the ilusion of time tricks you. You probably have no problem considering the possiblity of future or paste incarnations. And still, you don't consider those to be bubbles of perception independent of yours which are right now happening outside of your perecptual field, right? At the most you could say they "exist" as a part of your infinite potentiality as God, but NOT as an actuality. Well, the same is true for "other beings". Are there an infinite number of conscious experiences? Yes. Can God experience more than one at a time? No, because there's no fucking time!!! That's the key to understading non-dual solipsism. A am I having a conscious experience? Yes. Am I having it somewhere outside of your perceptual field RIGHT NOW? NO. For you, I, or your mother, or your dog, or whatever, are no more alive/real/conscious than Albert Einstain, or Hitler, or a million year old dinosar, do you get it? I know it's not a perfect explaination and you can get techanical or smartass about it if that's your thing. But it's as good as I can explain it using language.

Great contemplations ?

You can't even understand what we're discussing on this thread because of your inflexibility regarding the use of no-self terminlogy.

Says the cult leader

The key insight here is to see how the ilusion of time distors how you think of other conscious beings. Ordinarily you would believe that I am conscious right now as opposite to let's say Hitler becouse he's already dead, right? Notice that that assumes that time exists as a real thing in which both of our bubbles of perception are contained. Read and think about this very carefuly. If you've had awakenings, you must know that there's no time in reality. The Godhead includes infinite posiblities but only one can exist as an actuality, which is the present moment you are experiencing. Do you believe that your own 2 year-old self is conscious right now? Wether you answer yes or no (and you can think about it both ways paradoxically), contemplate and realise that time being an ilusion, there's no difference beetween your 2 year-old self consciousness, my consciousnes, or the consciousness of any living/dead being you can think of. Either no moment exists but the one you are experiencing now, or all moments exists simultaneously beyond time. Which is exactly the same and that's the mindfuck. My apologies for not writting this using "no-self terminlogy". Try to look past the language and get it, instead of bombarding me with the "nobody exists" cliché

Could be that. Or that he feels this is something extremely difficult to convey and can easiliy be misunderstood. I thought this post was quite comprehensible but it seems it isn't LOL Or just that he hasn't gone deep enought to get this. There certainly are levels of awakening. I personally didn't have this realisation until a couple months ago, in spite of having had many Awakenings in the last 5 years. This.

Hahaha love it

They do, but only one exists as an actuality, that's the one you are experiencing. Where do your "past experiences" exist right now? As an actuality somewhere outside of your perceptual field? Of course not. Once the present moment changes, it dissolves back into nothingess. But, time being an illusion, we could also say that all moments exits beyond time as pure potentiality. This has extremely radical implications, no person/animal you interact with is any more conscious/real/alive than your 2 year old self right now

Well, that's what I'm saying. But also, unless you believe "Leo's life" is the only thing that could come out of God's creativity instead of "Infinite Posiblities", in a way you are also saying that those exist as a potentiality. Definetly not as an actuality.

@Mason Riggle Of course! We really need to acknowledge the limitations of language to talk about these metaphysical topics. And try to understand what the other person really means, instead of getting into stupid terminology-wars, something "no-selfers" are proficiet at

Then why not just try to understand what I'm using that term to point to instead of being a pain in the ass about language?

Emptiness has no boundaries and therefore it is unstable.

Does the Absolute depend on some external source of energy it can run out of? Or is its creative power self-contained and therefore eternal? Who can experience reality but you?

Just like you couldn't create the color red, or the feeling of love, or the sound of a waterfall using lego-bricks even if you spent a million years trying out different combinations, the same way science will never be able to explain consciousness by studing brain cells' conections, because there is no possible conection (no matter how complex) that's equivalent to consciousness or even qualia. Consciousness is just not possible under the materialist paradigm. There's nothing rational or logical about the idea of consciousness being the byproduct of interconected cells. It just seems that way becouse of massive social indoctrination.

Isn't even going from seeking to not-seeking a state change?

@Nahm You are making this unnecesarily complicated. Anyone who had done Spiritual Work for a couple years knows what it means to have their baseline consciousness upgraded. If you don't, I don't know what to tell you.

Along my path, I've found that using Weed (asuming it has a mild Psychedelic-like effect on you) and Microdosing Psychedelics is extremely useful for long term consciousness work, for a very simple reason: they show you the next few levels which latter you can "lock-in" sober. As opposed to intense trips which take you 100 levels beyond your baseline (which is also great and one should do both IMO). But having these milder experiences frequently, which rise your consciousness just by 20-30%, greatly facilitates making these states your baseline, in combination with daily practice (Imagination Developement and Meditation are fundamental). Don't underestimate these 20-30% upgrades, notice that the process is exponential. Over a couple years, you can get to insane levels which you probably would not have believed were possible to make your baseline Any thoughts and reports are welcome.