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Not so in my country at least. Green excesses are more noticeable and problematic in underdeveloped contries, where there's more Red. A good example is public over-expenditure. In a first world country maybe its not that a big problem and only conservatives complain because of dogma. But here is very damaging for the economy, they don't undersatand that a poor country cant sustain a state thats as big as in developed regions. We are always taking debt or printing money, which worsens poverty in the long run.
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@Forestluv I found out the building in question is the legislative building. Kinda irrelevant because trying to break in and destroy any public building generally seems like Red barbarism to me. But you had asked so I reply. About their motivations, maybe they werent going to destroy it... maybe they just wanted to clean it, or to take pictures... but it doesn't seem so Would not taking the chance be right wing repression?
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You wanted to make it seem like I was against a fair protest when I had clarified it in bold that I was not. That seems like intentional misinterpretation and making a straw-man.
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Thats like saying: "Be thankful for Blue, because if it wasn't for Blue, Red would rape and kill you." Does this mean that Blue doesnt have unhealthy asspects? Extrapolate to Green and realise it's not pure good and love.
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Great points! Yes, I exaggerated a little. What they are almost always against is the use of force in order to avoid Red excesses. I'm not saying Red sholud be always repressed, but it's a balance and at least in my country they take it overboard and rather allow unnecesary destruction.
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I'm not saying that group is Green, like I said above its probably Red. But Green is always against the use of force used in order to avoid unnecesary destruction.
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Okay you just wanna attack me, I clearly said the protest was justyfied. The breaking in into public buildings is not.
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The use of force can be excessive. This is why I say I'm talking about this particular case and not saying it never happens. But to Green it always is. So in that sense yes, I was making a general point about this Green excesses.
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The protests itself was about asking for better conditions for nurses. We're im COVID19 peak in here. Totally justifyed of course. This was a little group trying to break in into a public building nearby. Which like I said it's not uncommon here. I don't know which exactly, many look similar. Should this be allowed?
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I do, you are drawing that conclussion from one single post I'm making about their excesses. I said above I agree with Green values in genral. I'm even trying to become a vegan believe it or not. But specifically their denial about the proper use of force and the need for taking care of public expenditure (take into account its a poor country and we are always in debt or printing money, causes more poverty in long run) are damaging.
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Like I said above, protests are mostly peaceful and justified. But there are little groups who go overboard and cause destruction. Should this be allowed? Is it right wing to stop it?
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No you missed the point and keep saying that everything you don't like cant be Green because Green is good. Green does have excesses, thay's why Yellow exists.
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Becauwe Im talking about a particular example. Not the use of force in general, which is many times excessive.
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Like I said, has already happened, I even posted a picture. But don't take my word, reaserch about the country if you don't believe it. Protests are mostly peaceful, but there are always little groups who do this. Stage Red I guess. Green doesn't like it when Blue hits Red, they think they must be allowed to be as barbarian as they like
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I'm not swinging the pendule to the other side, please tell me where does it seem to you that I'm implying that in my original post.
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I was talking specifically about goverment force, not riots. It was a otherwise peaceful protest. Police always protects nearby public buildings against destruction because it has happened many times here. https://images.app.goo.gl/gatYK6RJsXhtTbcPA The goverment can't afford people destroying the city for fun in every protest, its a poor country.
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I am not demonizing green. I agree with Green values in general. You know what else is stupid? Denying all excessive examples as "cherry picks" so Green can look like saints above everyone else. S. Green excesses don't exist according to you? Anyone who points out at this is is a right-wing cherry picking?
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Fran11 replied to electroBeam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
We don't have to, and we can't. God makes the "mess" by starting off creation with a low level of conciousness, and then slowly creation becomes more refined and enjoyable, also by God's will. "We" are not the real healers. As you said, it's all play of course. Why do humans play games? A game is creating the fake sense of a problem/goal to achieve, so then we can entretain ourselves fixing it. Perfection is boring, there's nothing to do -
Share your top 3 most challanges moments in your career and how you broke trough.
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Fran11 replied to electroBeam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Great topic. Here's what comes to mind: - Healing people as a way of expressing God's love and compassion. - Healing your body in order to have more energies to help others and spread more love. - Healing people mentally and spiritually so they are fit to play a better role in the collective evolution of conciousness. - Healing the enviroment. -
Interesting. Gonna try it out!
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Fran11 replied to Nate0068's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Recontextualization happens at the level of the mind, and it is important in order to sustain high conciousness. But without the attaining of these higher levels of conciousness there's no real enlightenment, just mental convictions. -
Strongly agree with this. Meditation can be surprisingly effective in dealing with deeply rooted patterns that psychoteraphy and other contemporary methods fail to fix.
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I'm sorry for the things you've gone trough and the negative self-image you developed. It's true life can be damn hard. Could you elaborate on why you say your inside is ugly and the things you've tried in order to change it?
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Fran11 replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
A true spiritual giant ?