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About arrogance, if one judges that some spiritual teacher or practicioner has these elements, the most conscious and productive thing to do is to use it as a mirror and search for those traits in yourself. Trying too hard to prove his/her arrogance to that person, or to someone else, can come from one's own ego's desire to show superiority. If someome really is arrogant, it is more concious not to take it personally, and to show compassion instead, because that person is suffering from a very narrow and limited state of conscience, at least in that moment. If I am arrogant, I will suffer life's inevitable blows to my self-image much more and my spiritual progress will be limited. It's my loss really.

A common problem is that when you have a perspective which you know is highly concious (like acknowledging systemic racism), then when someone (altough agreeing in the big picture, like Leo with racism) points out micro things which are not conducent to reiforcing that perspective, instead of recognizing it as a broader micro+macro analysis, the mind just tends to misinterpret that as belonging to the opposite pole of your perspective (Leo "neglecting racism" in this case). That's why it's also so difficult to make a constructive critique of some elements of liberalism without being unthoughfuly taken as a conservative. Which I have experienced.

There is nothing objectively wrong with anything. But as a human you have the choice of eating by slaugthering sentient beings or not (unless you have some very specific health condition). If you chose to do so, you are literally putting sentient beings trough unimaginable hell and pain just for the sake of a very short sensorial pleasure. Also you have to take into account the enviromental consecuences. It's up to you to say wether that's the most concious decition or not. God doesnt judge.

Yeah, this is a legit question and can be answered. The thing is that Awakening/Enlightenment/God-Conciousness is not the same as Magick/Occult Powers/Siddhis. The former means you are concious that you are the Formless Godhead imagining this moment. But it doesn't neccesarily mean you can use it to affect reality or acquire specific knowledge in "magical" ways. Occult Powers, on the other hand, are real but they require specific training, and you can acquire them without having God-Conciousness. Although your baseline sober conciousness has to be significantly higher than average.

Chronic health issues cause a lot of suffering, it's a very delicate thing to be used in order to win an argument, show some love man.

But you are saying that by this you don't mean neither infinity complexity of form nor the formless at different levels.

Concious of what? Yes, one can realise the formless at many levels and its relationship with form, is that what you mean?

It's all matter of how you dissect it with your mind. If you draw a distinctiom beetween the formless and form, awakening is an on/off switch that shifts when you make the quantum leap and become concious of the formless. If you don't draw this distinction, awakinging has infinite levels because even after making that quantun leap, awareness of form (and its relationship to the absolute) can become infinitley more complex.

In the book "I Am That" someone asks Nisargadatta Maharaj something similar: Q: If time and space are mere illusions and you are beyond, please tell me what is the weather in New York. Is it hot or raining there? M: How can I tell you? Such things need special training. Or, just travelling to New York. I may be quite certain that I am beyond time and space, and yet unable to locate myself at will at some point of time and space. I am not interested enough; I see no purpose in undergoing a special Yogic training. I have just heard of New York. To me it is a word. Why should I know more than the word conveys? Every atom may be a universe, as complex as ours. Must I know them all? I can -- if I train.

The field of conciousness is self-aware. Right now you feel like you are looking at your perceptual field like it was a TV screen, as you being something separated from it. When your mental sense of I dissolves, you experience that actually the "screen" is self aware, and the one you thought was outside looking at it, was just a character appearing on the screen. There's no subject and object, it's all one piece.

Are you implying that sleeping with many guys and being open about sexualty is somehow wrong and makes a woman deserving of the label "slut" ? Seems like a very conservative view IMO.

I could play by your rules and tell you that there's never someone who wants to end suffering because ego it not real, so actually there's never suffering. How does it feel? Is it useful?

The same "one" that wants to end suffering (Nobody, but they still play)

Is not real if you take it to mean "individual entity". It is real if you mean "the mental constructs that make you feel like an individual entity". These can be dismanteled to various degrees.

Leo's upcoming retreat: Outrageous Experimentens with Pussy - 30 Supermodels in 30 days

The road to heaven is paved with selfish intentions

You damage your brain in a dream and you damage your dream-conciousness, which implies the dream is taking place in the brain of the dream character who got hurt... Same logic.

How does one reconcile "nothing hidden" with "things one is not yet concious of" ? Or there's no reconciliation and one must just embrace that paradox?

"What we know is a drop, what we don't know is an ocean." Buuuut, you can certainly know what water is

Agree. I feel that because Yellow is not as easily identifiable, people sometimes are too quick to label anything that shows traits of Orange and below as being solidly coming from a lower stage. Remeber all Stages have healthy asspects, even Red and Purple

I know right, more so considering the first organisms didnt have porn.

I love you.

What about concentration? Don't tell me there's nobody concentrating LOL Concentration can happen.

Finally you acknowledge it man

Yeah I was asking a very similar question in that thread. @SS10 I recommend you check it out, I presented some analogies that helped me understand, and there are replies from Leo.