The observer

@Inliytened1 @traveler Seriously, what are you doing here? You're both saying the exact same thing in different words/pointers. You're both playing the teacher with no student to teach. Hilarious! I guess even teachers can have fun time together. Want me to join for a threesome? ?

@JosephKnecht Beautiful! ???

I feel you bro. But relax, there's nothing to know. I know it's easier said than done, and that I'm not in your shoes right now. But hold on. Stay strong. You will get through this.

@Anna1 Thanks for the heads up. I should be more careful ???

Lol! Loved it! Completely true!

God is. The absolute truth. It seems like this realization is the only one that is true. And it also seems that it has infinite depth. Every time I contemplate it, I find deeper layers of understanding. These deeper layers make the shallower ones pale in comparison. It's like I've never realized truth before. Weird God. Love is relative. There's no doubt about that anymore. Leo's insight is complete BS. Psychedelics are not the way to go. They are of the forbidden tree.

@IAmTheHolySpirit You're a funny guy! I didn't tell him to do anything. He's genuinely interested in the inquiry. Your chances of talking him out of it are quite low.

Let's say there are no other POVs. Is there a self pov? Be very careful here.

I am not even that. It's pointless to keep going further down this road because it's obvious where it's gonna lead. I can't be pinpointed, or pointed to. I can only be, and be described.

I couldn't go through with this from the first paragraph. It's blatantly false. I am aware, not awareness. To say that I am awareness means that I am not an ego. But I am an ego too. Seriously guys, don't trust these psychedelic insights. They're incomplete.

Nice one, ego. Lead the way.

Correct! These are much better terms.

And yet, here it is, live and living. Rationalize fear/separation however you want. Duality is as real as non-duality. That's true non-duality. Stop denying fear. Stop denying the illusion. The illusion is true. The circle is complete. And btw, love is also the sense of separation. "You" love that which isn't "you". So, this argument is invalid, as it must be, because love and fear are identical. You only are you. Being is not love. It is love + fear.

Psychedelic awakening. BS. Stop fooling yourself. It ain't real awakening. The chemicals will wear off, and you will be back as you were; an ordinary human being with ordinary levels of consciousness, an ordinary human being that thinks that he's awake and that he's "got it". So basically, a deluded human being, perhaps even more deluded than the ordinary ones, since they admit that they are not awake. Anyway, feel free to disagree. That won't change anything.

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@Someone here You are absolutely right on this one!! I could agree that what Leo calls love is actually a pointer to the empty nature of being, but not further. In this case, the word love is definitely wrong and confusing because it misses its counterpart; fear.

@Galyna 'Illusion' is a thought. That thought is the illusion. You are not. I am not. No one is.

@Javfly33 Really?! Is that it? And you think that's profound? That's solipsism; just an old philosophical concept, which is definitely and absolutely not true. Keep looking. @Galyna Sorry for the wrong tag. Will reply below.

No problem. I'm sorry too. We're humans, we tend to forget. I still fear it. My work is not over yet. For me, the ideal is not to either love hell or fear it. It is to perceive it as it is: Hell. Without denial, and without distortion. I'm somewhere near the middle. Not yet in the ideal place, like I said above, not too close, but also not too far. I'm speaking what I "know" is the truth because I think you are missing it. There's nothing to prove, and no one to prove it to. Examine your direct experience. Try to be as objective as possible. Do you think I don't want love to be equal to the absolute truth? Both love and fear are one. I can't separate them from each other. That's the whole point. Oneness is not only love, and not only fear. It's both. We can't control what we enjoy. At least, I can't. Haha ?

@TheAlchemist You're assuming I'm the one with a closed-mind here, but what can I say? Why do you not assume they are the ones that are closed-minded? If you're unbiased, why are you pointing your finger only at me and not at anyone else? You said that we honestly have no idea, that means we're all equally subject to the trap of closed-mindedness. And yet, you're only mentioning me in your comment. Stop acting slick. You have no idea, but I might have.

And yet, here you are arguing that love is not equal to fear, ironically. Arrogant. "You" haven't survived anything. Hell is eternal, just like heaven. It's not something you survive. It's an essential part of life. Smh. You don't understand. It's not that one removes the other. There's no war. There's nowhere to fly. You can't escape hell, nor heaven. Hell and heaven are both pure and divine, each in its own magical way, and they complete each other. May you stop playing God and stop arrogantly assuming things about me. You don't know me.

You're only proving my point. You're afraid of hell, obviously, like everyone else.

Yes, yes. I have no idea and you guys are God the omniscient. Go experience hell and show me how much you will love it. Your ignorance and arrogance is creating mockery of the people who suffer. Stay on your comfortable armchair, inject 5-Meo, and keep philosophising about love all you want. Keep your heads in the sand. You are deluding yourself, big time. Peace, I'm out. Now I know that you guys are a bunch of narcissists.

This is rhetorical. I could say that love is because of Fear. Or better yet, love is of Fear. Love fears Fear, always. And it fears it because it gets evaporated by Fear's awe and dread. See. I could view the duality from this angle or from the opposite one. Light arises from the shadow. Shadow is that which enables any experience at all. Shadow has no light, really. Close the doors and the blinders. Remove all light sources, and tell me again how love is absolute. If it was absolute, it wouldn't change or disappear. Really, what you're doing here is that you're taking one side of the duality and emphasising it until you confuse it for non-duality, while rationalising away the other side. I could do this everytime. No offence to you or to anyone, but it's pointless to keep coming up with these silly rationalisations. We could recontextualize anything so that it fits whatever narrative we want. The narrative does not describe reality. The map is not the territory. Until you're threatened and fear kicks in.

How often do you find yourself like in the picture above? For me, it happens very frequently. That pic I've posted on my Facebook wall 5 years ago. And it's been a theme in my life for almost 9 years now. Every time I sit and remember my past self, I feel embarrassed. It's like how could I be so stupid?! Then again, not three days later, I find myself noticing the same thing about my recent past self that thought it was at the peak. I only notice my growth/awakenings after, but never during. Especially when I journal, I'm always like: WTF! Who's that idiot?! To summarise, I believe I will always be an idiot, no matter what I do and how much I learn or become nuanced. It seems like foolishness is inevitable. Now, I'm wondering how I will view this thread one week later