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@Leo Gura Is this still something happening?

Yeah I feel you man, I'd be open at talk about what you actually like and see what she thinks. I think making room for some of your fetish stuff and experimentation wouldn't be bad. I think you'd be more willing to have "normal" sex with her if you feel you can be more authentic and open about what you want to try and have her indulge you a bit here and there if she's willing. She might think it's weird at first but she might be willing to try some of that kind of stuff. She might like it more after trying it a bit, treat it like an experiment and see what happens. I have a domination fetish lol and I feel like at this stage of my life it's something that's important to me in a partner and something in order to be authentic id have to bring up. I think she won't think your as weird as you might imagine. Just see what happens if you tell her. She's not into it; well go from there and work with some of the other feedback you've got here and contemplate. I doubt suppressing and blocking this part of you out and not experimenting safely with the desire will really make it any better. With that, it's very possible it will be something you will grow out of. Porn and frequent unhealthy copious masturbation don't help these things and won't help your ability to enjoy regular sex or even fetish sex honestly for sure. My opinion is to find a balance of limitation and indulgence ?

@Chew211 okay very interesting, yeah you got a good point it seems quite easy to get too logical about things. Have a big overthinking tendency here I notice that alot of the time something comes up that I would like to say or talk about but yeah, there's certainly that resistance and unwillingness. I'd like to investigate that a bit more. Aswell as getting more comfterable I'n the spontaneity of conversation. Breathing and taking a second to slow down, become present, take In and become comfterable I'n the silence etc.. It seems the best way forward is to just do it and go for it. Ive noticed when I just do it, say that thing I want to say, ask that question, really listen and respond to someone, take initiative it gets things rolling and it's really quite effortless . Seems like a big mind and trauma thing here honestly. Might check out that book you sent too. Its a good point about not getting lost in logic and theory when it comes to just interacting and just being a fucking human being haha

Hey, been getting out a bit more here and there with things opened in Canada (for now). Had a great time at a friends birthday party last night. He's a band mate of mine so we did a set them just jammed out to a hyped crowd into the night. Been inside, doing conciousness, healing and psychological work alot. Its been alot this last year and I feel I need to get back out and get used to being and engaging with people again. I think I'm a naturally outgoing person yet I feel out of practice and quite anxious engaging In conversation and taking initiative to talk to people. Hit me yesterday I would benefit alot from getting some quality resources to put into practice to work on developing the skill. I will be using it alot I'n my future and career I'm building as a live musician and artist. Would be awesome if it integrated some stuff on confidence and insecurity, psychology and the mind aswell. Thanks!

@Thought Art yeah man, bit of poop flinging here and there lol. Forum could've handled it a bit better. Really what ive been learnign from this whole thing is that there's no one entirely right or wrong side. All about the perspective, and how your looking at it

Love this, something very true to the teachings. There's a reason why we love the guy. He's not prone to deceiving himself, Adeptus had some fair points though. Does seem to be misinterpreting the teaching here and there. Doesn't matter if he fully gets the profundity of the teaching or not. It's less about that. He's just calling what he sees and in my opinion it's not all bad and he's bringing up similar things to what you mentioned that honestly I think is quite valid

@asifarahim i think the reaction here has honestly gone to prove some of the points made i understand the reaction though, i have reacted similarly this time, to this specific video and elsewhere in terms of criticism to leo. its cause honestly its important to us. what leo does is not bullshit, when it seems like people are just shitting on the real work put into this its insulting honestly. i agree, its very easy to get lost on leo as a person and miss whats really important however, i think at this point the issues brought up by adeptus honestly have influenced the teaching and this place is looking more and more cultish. as i stated previously theres something to it. actualized is not a cult, this place is not a cult. lets act like it

@Roy with you on this, quite shocked with the community and leos reaction and response to this. seems to me like its just been one big blow off and reduction of all adeptus's points. really not in line with what leo teaches honestly. dont like how nowone is taking what adeptus has to say seriously instead just telling him what he should do, making claims about him clickbaiting and generally avoiding the actual content of what hes saying. adeptus has a reason to be making the video hes making and just resorting to hollow claims and dismissing what hes actually saying and why hes saying it which he clearly fucking stated in the video is crap, were better than this. imagine if leo actually came out, stepped up, took some criticism, walked down off this pedestool of knowing everything and actually took this guy seriously. that would really represent what the work is about imo. not this pety crap, ridiculing and getting all defensive over honestly fair criticism. i feel like this whole thing has been telling as to whats really going on here and i dont know how i feel about things honestly. i really fucking respect leo, he was very luminating for me and pieced so many things together for me as a young guy. the first teacher to tie eveyrthing together so well. got me into all this initially. seriously love the man, still think hes brilliant. got a totally extraordinary mind. he is still just a dude. leo seriously man, i think your creating a pedestool for yourself with your content. youve said it yourself in videos that you get criticism for being arrogant. you claim you know it, you see it etc... but this is literally it here man, this is clearly an example of it happening. your poisioning your fans and followers like me honestly by not addressing it and its creating some cult like dynamics in the audience. honestly just having some fucking humility here and there man, i think thats whats lacking. i aswell as others dont like the way you assume things about the audience. use statements like "you will never understand this" or similar ways of honestly just aggrandizing yourself. no man, thats bullshit. your smart, you see something not alot of people do, you need to be wiser with this and take a step down and humble yourself. the teachings are real, theres something to this. to the whole god thing. your turning off all kinds of fans and people interested in this with this corner and hole youve been boxing yourself into. i think its honestly why the amount of people interested in the teaching now is so stuck, its cause your making a bubble honestly. running from criticism, conversation, logically taking on what he has to say and taking what adeptus or anyone else is saying seriously. i feel like someone seriously interested in the truth wouldnt just be as dismissive and completely rule out any self deception or fairness or even truth kernels here and there in what hes saying! come on adeptus's name calling on the forum isnt helping the matter. i understand though, dudes probably ticked. makes sense after i imagine yall are coming after him like a bucnh of angry bees and the response on here to his video has just been yucky and reactive. adeptus could be a hell of alot ruder imo. leos response on here was just as provocative and dismissing. seriously, the if you dare comment? ugh Id honestly love to see more respect from Leo towards Adeptus and vice versa, yall are big boys, an actual conversation wouldnt be bad. i understand leos teachings are tricky to talk about, its easy to misconstrude. still though, i think none of these ideas are being challenged properly. we need more conversation just outside of the honestly dogmatic and leo centered nature of this place or just in leos multi hour long videos. yall dont need to go back and forth arguing, have a real fucking logical conversation about this. try your best to see each others side. take each other seriously. sotp just dismising adeptus as a clickbaiter, rationalist, etc.. hes not, hes a good guy with real valid reasons and intent to say the things he had to say. its really not like leo doesnt speak about others on his channel *cough cough multiple hour long video on jordan peterson*. you wouldnt call leo a clickbaiter or making the teaching about the person. adepetus's point on him branching out his content more, sharing more ideas was spot on. adeptus is a fair guy and honestly perfectly allowed to share his opinions and call out shit as he sees it. same way leo does. period I want leo to talk about the grandiosity and status hes creating for himself, its gotten especially bad since the whole awakening break thing last year. adeptus's point on leos talk about the same traits and experiecne he describes in the dangers of psychs vid and the delusional thinking was spot on. leo really shouldve said more "I" statements and not just said "you" its just talking down to the audience. adeptus's whole im right your wrong thing was a bit silly but leo was clearly describing himself and his own experience in those statements, even with the experiences he had on 5meo being real and insightful. dont doubt that. but, cant say leo wasnt totally unhinged, ungrounded, a bit all over the place. own up to it man. theres some real fucking kernels here that your not taking. i dont like the lack of critical thinking about this and the reactionary honestly ideological thinking on here about this whole thing...

@Mafortu he clearly doesnt know it based on his reaction and response...

Had a friend send me this and i thought it was an interesting watch. As a young person growing up in this culture I directly see the way the narcissism and self absorption is just so blatently infused into us collectively. The way we interact with our devices and social media drains us of our humanity and leaves us hollow and in a feedback loop of alot of toxic orange values, validating our crap ideas, depressed, self loathing, lost in hollow narcissistic comparison. Feels all too familiar to me Seems like this guy sees the issues quite well, I like his takes on nihilism and post modernism. I do think hes criticizing it from below somewhat and making a big demon and boogeyman out of whats happening rather than seeing it as a necessary stage and a reaction to that which came before it. Idolizing blue and "the past" and how great and connected it was missing the pitfalls there. Missing the point of the blatant attention seeking and abolishment of rules and heirarchy found in this youth orange/green post modern culture, instead judging, acting as a devil and pushing it outside of himself. Maybe a bit of a lack of empathy and self love. Seems to have some strong blue shadows of conformity, traditional and religious values being the best and a separatist mindset of separating himself from the culture and world around him. Didnt particularly care for alot of the comments and community around the video aswell. Regardless of some criticism and things I saw, I found his insight into the real problems of this youth culture of nihilism very fascinating and I feel he integrated some interesting philosophy and knowledge to help make his points. Could relate a lot with my own direct experience of being enmeshed in this world and similar things ive had to face and come to terms with in my development. This topic and dissection of our youth culture seems important and not being explored as much as it could be, thought it might make for something interesting to share here and go into a bit more from a more integrated yellow level.

@aurum this is some high quality advice, it's by no means easy or a quick fix but it will get you what your looking for

@fopylo really listen internally. Really focus your listening and listen to alot of music your trying to produce for yourself. With orchestration I'd reocmend getting into or atleast taking sometime to study classical rochesteation and theory. When your trying to come up with stuff really focus on what your intention is. I find having an idea or a concept in mind then focusing on what sounds and melodies I hear in my head. This is where having the facility to be able to take what's in your head to the daw or the piano roll is helpful. I feel very simialry to you do and would be interested in sharing ideas and discussing more if your interested. Your welcome to drop a dm Good luck man, I believe in you aswell

I really like this guy's approach to waking people up to non duality. I found this video helped me integrate ideas of one's life purpose and hard work with non duality and emptiness

Hey, not sure if here or the Relationships and Dating section is the right place to ask but could anyone recommend some high quality conscious books or resources on understanding family/social relationships and childhood trauma? Id love to dig more into why I feel the ways I do and get more of a bigger picture understanding to the root of a lot of my insecure neurosis.

Nope man kinda drifted from my high school buddies

Thanks man, this is helpful.

These people are so selfish. They have absolutely no regard for the collective responsibility of dealing with this virus. They don't realize its not all about them

i love this video

@Leo Nordin Yeah i feel like people can afford and are able to stay home when they are sick in a more developed country. It makes sense that you guys have it under control. I feel like alot of people try to compare the way it is in Nordic countries with how it could be handled in America when its really not the same.

@Leo Nordin Id imagine in Sweden people would naturally take more precaution and wear masks and such. Alot of more developed countries can adapt more and have to shut down less in order to keep the virus under control. Are public gatherings like concerts and such still happening there?

Ive been talking to more girls online in hopes of practicing talking to girls. Ive been applying some of the principals ive been learning about neediness and being high value. Ive called girls before and it usually goes really well but last night I had a complete fight or flight reaction. I greeted her then suddenly completely blanked on the awkward silence and hung up and blocked her. I felt completely small and helpless after that and struggled to sit with the way I treated her/acted earlier. What ive come to understand on reflection is that I have become very challenged in terms of conversation and authenticity. I am learning alot more and trying to follow my intuition socially but it seems to create some kind of ego self image and often its hard for me to push myself to talk to just regular people even when im thinking I want to. I think what caused it last night was that I was too focused on myself and had no actual intentions with talking to this girl. When it came time to actually act I was too focused on not saying the wrong thing and being a certain way that it just completely malfunctioned. Im struggling to integrate this and have been trying to remember that I am not my feelings nor my thoughts on this. I feel like how will I ever actually become who I strive to be if it all just falls apart like this. It seemed like I was making progress but its clear I am just scratching the surface of the practical applications. I keep having the painful emotional feelings of the discomfort I felt at the moment replay in my mind. I am trying to stay present and see this not as something that shouldnt've happened but as a fair and equal result to the reality of where I am at. How can I integrate such an embarrassing moment and understand where the reaction came from? I feel like my confidence I built up before was fake and its hard for me to feel secure now. Should I continue to talk to girls for now in hopes of overcoming this or am I just going to embarrass myself more? Its particularly uncomfortable because I haven't felt social anxiety to this degree since childhood memories.

Do you feel like there is a correlation between spiral dynamics stage and what attracts a female? For example a stage green girl whos interested in social justice punk music and planet earth would be less attracted to your material success and your cars and such than a stage orange female who could be more interested in shopping, dates, etc.. Is this a potential limitation of pick up in the sense that pick up assumes all girls care about these specific things to the same degree. Not to say green girls dont have these values but there values are more emotional in the sense that they want to see your not going to be emotionally harmful to them and are often focused on there own inner health and are likely aware of there traumas. Is the essence of conscious pick up being able to integrate these stage green and maybe second tier values into traditional typical orange pick up which is valuable stuff like making sure your materially sustainable, being confident and not needy, high orange value. Maybe all these stages positive values are integrated but the higher the girl your trying to attract is up the spiral the more compatible for attraction you become.

@Farnaby I have lots of trauma that I think i need to take a look at. I've been trying out Leo's holotropic shamanic breathing and its been really good and surprisingly intense. It often makes me cry but in a great cathartic way which seems to bring out emotions. That seems to be the essence of self love and working with trauma is finding comfort and loving through these wounds by feeling them through. I often have thoughts come up that make me uncomfortable especially in terms of girls. Like feeling really needy and worrying shes not going to respond to me or needing validation/needing to prove something. I feel like these things shouldnt be the case and I think thats just making the insecurity worse causing abnormal behavior like last night. I often feel like im looking for something in girls that I need to find in myself more readily. Ive gotten better at this by learning more about having value as a guy I just think ive thrown myself into it too quickly and need to work at myself before I really feel like I want to talk to girls in a meaningful way. I am really hurting today but im trying to sit with the hurt and feelings of worthlessness and see them as they are and get comfortable with it in order to accept it and love myself.

@Leo Gura thanks Leo, this is a helpful differentiation