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@Windappreciator My knowledge in this area is derived from direct experience and observation. I don't claim it is complete. Can you elaborate your point a bit more? If that would work, wouldn't that imply that a therapist has first to become a spiritual evolved person to have that high over average vibes?

@Windappreciator That sounds good on paper but put it in practice and see how far you come. For your example the person would have been open to change or at least the possibility to begin with. Might help a few. Try to put that in practice and help at least one deeply depressed person and then a violent one. I've often observed that when your vibes are too high for a deeply depressed, person, he will become aggressive or even offensive. One can even see that with discontented people.

@tatsumaru this is a fair point and you are partly right. I just want to give the missing part of the picture. Yes, there are people who are willing to learn from their mistakes and can be helped. One can care for them and some might open up when they see that they are not demonized a d cared for but it is not that simple , especially on a bigger scale, because it would involve a lot of one on one work and a combo of therapies as every person is different. Did you inquire how much selfishness and "evil" in every one of us is? Most people don't want to accept or even face it. I don't say it's impossible but that Leo is right with the issue of resources. One of the outmost damaged persons might need 1000x more help to open up than a not so much damaged person. even for a still deep damaged person who is still quite traumatized would need so much work from both sides and that's still a life's work. Many people don't want to do that, nor they can. They are lost in victim mind. I grew up in a red inviroment and I know that many of them neither know that there is something wrong with them nor what healing is. They think that's just how the world is and every thing else, including psychology are only airy fairy tales. When one comes along who is compassionate in the wrong way, they start exploiting and damaging them. But it depends on the damage of the person. Yes, one can facilitate and provide good conditions for help but that is very limited and still a gamble if the other person is open to it. It's basically like spirituality. Many teachers try to make it as tasty as possible but most people turn away as soon as they get a taste of shit starting coming up. Additionally, I think that psychological help is in very bad cases never close to enough because people don't learn how their mind works and how much they can do by mindfully changing stuff. But it's still dependent on the openess and willingness of the person.

I don't want to attack anyone here. I'd rather want to point out the absurdity of the point where the talk's lead to. If people don't open their mind to other pov's, they can clearly not be made to, especially by pushing. Well, how do you imagine to even change/help another person if this person isn't open to it. People just don't see what is wrong and if they would see it they would be already improved. Even normal people can't be change unless they want to, let alone real stage red psychopaths. most people simply aren't interested in healing and the necessary labor. However people do things for different reasons and some are willing to be reformed.

Sry, I wanted to give notice because of the troll post that's just been removed. Should I hide the post?

Pls don't feed a troll.. @cetus

@StarStruck It might help for a start to create this fierceness in yourself by turning inwards and see how your niceness is exploited by other parts in you. If you treat this issue correctly then you will also understand what's wrong with being the "nice guy without a spine-type" in general. But this is only for a start and understanding but still the rubber meets the road by experience. I guess Leo's latest video might explain that, too.

As well I've noticed in myself as in others that people start to go deep while having a general negative attitude towards life and themselves and a lack in discipline. Therefore I want to share with you the lense of the inner child work which helps you to create a perspective of a healthy grown up. I find it very useful for taking back self responsibility and so to say "bringing up your mind". It's basically what one should do as ground work to put you back in to control and integrity before you should go on to seeing that there is no control which I've seen here quite often leading to dysfunctional behaviour and unsteady growth and then people wonder why life sucks. So I've put a link down here for everyone who's interested in healing one's inner child. Leo talked about that in his older videos, too, but in a different manner. I find their videos a bit more resonating. Many of the more active members already know those things. On the forum, however, are still many more people reading more advanced stuff without being aware of the lack of basic work. So it's for them obviously.

@Leo Gura I want to thank you for your teachings. I follow them for 2 years now and the first 15 months I was very sceptical but more and more things revealed to be right. Without you and the people here my life would be dramatically different. I wouldn't know self help,I wouldn't have made sense out of the psychedelic experience and what love is and would've been stuck in victim mode. I wouldn't have a map in which direction to develope and would've missed all those concepts from what is love over spiral dynamics to epistimology and wouldn't know what a perspective is in order to let go. After some accident 2.5 years ago where I nearly died and shattered my feet and elbow and spend 11 months in a wheel chair I see this as a chance to change myself and build a more meaningful fulfilling life. I've become conscious of all the surpressed needs every human being has and I am slowly changing my trajectory on my own pace from negativity, no hope, towards what I want in life. There's a honest, loving and appreciating part inside me which is slowly growing bigger and bigger. My focus is on healing trauma, become more happy and building a new career and not misusing these things as a cope out to run away from life but rather to face life and overcoming my fears and insecurities. Because of my special situation I see myself in the responsibility like everyone else to figure the balance out for myself. I'm more interested in your older content but find the newer videos like those about holons are very useful because it's shows for example that one can always do something and it influences all the other areas for the better or worse. Besides my therapy, I find the techniques I aquired here like the emotional scale, affirmation, thought questioning, shadow work and especially grounding very useful for me and they make the therapy way more effective. My therapist know that I use psychedelics every 3-4 months and I'm aware of set and setting. I meditate regularly and do mindfulness some yoga and when insights come, then they come and if not then it's ok, too. But I see as well that I first want to get rid of the toxic things in my life and have a stable basis before pursuing higher things and that might take another 5-10 years at least and I'm working on it. I have different sources to meet me at my current level. I have described my situation because of your latest video I see myself as one of the more special cases and i know that I have to decide what to applyand what not. I wasn't sure whether it's still okay to stick around and I want to show you and the people here my appreciation for the things I read here on the forum. If I didn't stumble upon these things I would've been fucked a lot. even as a follower of buddhism and meditator I wouldn't have a clue or map how to create a happy, conscious life.

Thx, I really appreciate this video. Even though he seems quite idiological and not so much interested in the actual practices as a former theravada buddhist I can confirm most of that what he says. It took some psychedelics to get rid of these doctrines and to see that truth is found in other groups, religions pointing to it, as well. It's still a minority but I also know many monks who are well aware of this fallacy and give additional advice like "find that which knows" or "don't focuse on the words, focuse on the methode" or "stay at direct experience". There comes to mind the saying of Alan Watts which says that buddhism is hinduism designed for export and it's true in a sense. ?

Hey, many of you might have already realized that reality is always dependent on the organism and his mind. While lying in hospital I just got the full magnitude of it and I want to share it as long as I see it clearly. It is as if 1000 years ago there was literally just the earth in the center of cristal spheres because the people saw it that way and now it is the same with the earth in the solar system in the universe. This is the same kind of thought construct and it will be outdated some day and people will create a totally different universe with different possibilities and unimaginable ways of manipulating reality and other nervous systems will create a totally different reality. Knowledge changes reality and that is what people here always talk about. This is so obvious but I never saw that clearly how imaginary it all is while being in a sober state and that's just the surface. Thx a lot.

I need a vision. Something that's worth fighting for.

I start writing this journal in order to have a place to express myself and motivate myself to do the work and maybe get some feedback during my journey out of a huge pile of shit being stuck in. I'll probably write about quite different areas of my live and things that I want to express. This journey is a way out of pain and darkness towards hope, healing and a financially stable live. To begin with let's see what's working not so well. First of all my body. Since an accident 3 years ago where I shattered my feet and elbow I have now trouble walking, I can neither jump nor run nor stand for longer periods of time (maybe an hour and a half) and often get an tennis elbow. I've spent almost an year in a wheelchair. So I can't work in my original profession in a lab anymore. Then I have to expect some more reconstructing at my feet over the next years. The chances I get back in a lab with this conditioning are quite low, so I have to get a new one. The next thing are my traumas. During my childhood I experienced all kinds of abuse and bullying and I got multiple ptsds and due to the accident I got some more and depression. So there is a lot of work to do and already in progress. I must say it got so much better through spiritual work like mindfulness, emotional scale, meditation and shadow work but there is much room to grow upwards left. Due to the lack of bodily health I need to find a way to earn money with my brains. I consider to study part time because then I might get it payed. But the downside would be that it takes a much longer and I am already old (31). It's hard to don't lose track. I am also going to get some advice about retraining. But first I get operated in the end of april.

I'm lying hospital now. Yesterday they straightened my deformed toes and removed 2plates and 11 2inch screws. When I go with the pain and feel it I hardly need pain killers. That's kind of funny because I have a diagnosed pain processing disorder. But now I understand it more as resisting to feeling the trauma(bodily or mentally) I will be walking on crutches for the next 6 weeks. Step by step to a better life. I see more and more the needs I've denied myself and I want to change that. I'm gonna need a new profession. I might go to university again and would get it paid if I do it part time. The downside would be that it would take much longer and I'm not sure what to study. Maybe social work. The thing is that I come from a degree of utter hopelessness and I'm building up better perspectives and it improved a lot but it's still difficult to see opportunities and take right action. I feel the urge to take any straw but that wouldn't be wise. My body and mind need time to heal.

It's a place where people meet to practice zazen under the instruction of a few very experienced sotho-school deciples( the most experienced has more than 30years of practice). There is a shrine and it's very ceremonial. But on monday I'm gonna stay in a thai temple for a night. That's a real monastry with monks I've been visiting occasionally for years. But that doesn't mean I'm somehow advanced. It pulls me to this places but I've refused to look at my shaddow for years and every time I got close I had something that pulled me away. Slowly I uncover it. It's huge. I'm a little afraid of the operation next Friday. I've made lots of notes this week. I'm gonna put them in here over the next days.

@Thought Art How is it going? Was the signing up worth it so far?

Here is one of them from the preview.

I want to share with you a talk of this buddhist monk. His positive attitudes as well as his profound but simple teachings enriched my live quite a bit, so I want to share this source of happiness. I hope you'll enjoy it. ?

Very interesting interview. It's good to see how this mindset works and it makes me more compassionate for this condition. I'm glad she saw the benefits in getting treatment.

During yesterdays zazen session in the dojo some old trauma came up so I decided to give it some space and feel into it. In order to do so I'll cut down to zero my most harmful distractions which are porn, news and social media. Maybe I'll add an psychedelic in the last days. From now on let's feel the shit out of it.

It's very ironic that this guy is so confident in his believes and at the same time so wrong. I'll take the lesson and own the shaddow. Thanks for sharing. ?

Maybe Sadhguru just does what he needs to do to maneuver between the mighty in his country because without being supportive to some powerfull people he would have accomplished less. This might be one reason out of many

I don't want to be too blunt but I want to tell you that this way of thinking is a huge misunderstanding of the teachings and thus a big trap. A few years ago I thought the same way until I have been realizing that it had been used as an excuse not to take responsibility (and this process still goes on). For example someone treats you very poorly and doesn't respect your boundaries you just let go of the thought story and tell the person that you don't want to ve treated like that and you won't accept that and so you deal with the situation. The thing is that one has to take his own well being into account too, so that you have also compassion for yourself and set up boundaries and respect your own desires and not repress them. By doing so and without hurting others unnecessarily you'll do others a favor as well. It's a fine balance and one has to be conscious enough to see that and act accordingly. The law of karma isn't a legalistic thing and ultimatively not explainable but rather a thing to experience. Noone is punished but one feels his thoughts and the color the way you look at the world. To answer your question I propose to find out what forgiving and revenge is all about. Invest a lot of time in that and see is from multiple perspectives and go really deep. A hint might be the words "suffering" and " letting go" and "love". I think it's better to find it out by yourself because the real problem comes from (everybody starts off this way so noone is to blame) just acquiring believes in the first place. It might take you months but it's worth it. :-) Good luck!

Can you be a bit more specific? As far as I understand his teachings one shouldn't believe him but see if you can get on your own to the same conclusions. Up to now there are some things I disagree with him about his views on career but the map about reality and healing he gave us is astonishing good, even though I walk on my on pace.

I want to share with you this marvelous work of art. I find it amazing and very trippy. ?