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Leo , I'never asked your perspective before about heaven & hell. You said before that religion has a true essence which is god. and That people distorted that essence for their survival. But what is your take when religion talk about concepts like heaven and hell ? Religion says there is an eternal paradise that you'll live in if you did follow religion and cared about GOD. what's ur take on that. On the other hand you will live eternally in hell if you did bad things in your life or things that contradicts the true essence of religion. In islam it is said that you will be revived, in a day called the day of JUSTICE , which is the day when justice is established over your doings in your life. What is your take on all of that ? does that all have any true essence ? what do you think about it ?
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How does leo bash against science when he uses a scientific discovery to awaken (the 5meo-dmt)? I mean without the discoveries of science you wouldn’t awaken ? Would you ? How do you tell people that 5meo dmt is a great molecule ( which is a scientific discovery), yet at the same time tell people that science is wack ? I don’t understand this. 5meo dmt is a scientific discovery , the way of calling it 5 meo dmt means you had to have checked the mark of organic chemistry. You promote it. You say it’s a great molecule to awaken and discover your true essence. But the double standards here is that you then talk trash about science. But you use it !! You use it to awaken ! So how is science full of crap if you use it to attain your highest ideals !
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Regarding Leo's last blog post about deep questioning. I wanted to know in my own experience how can I distinguish between genuine questioning and going through the motion. I sometimes question the aspects of reality but as I do that , I think to myself" hey that was not really genuine questioning". How can I start deeply genuinely questioning and stop bullsh*ing myself
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Leo I have just these questions. Since you claimed that you are god/infinity and have accessed god's intelligence. Why didn't you became anything else like a bird a dog or a cat. Why are you stuck being Leo? If the answer is you can't. Then what's the point of attaining god's intelligence , since it's not going to change a damn about your existence?
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When Leo posted about how imagining you are conscious to the point that you realize your world is imaginary I realized something. I realized i took actualized.org as a belief system , I still do. Most minds are not capable enough to question deeply the way actualized.org suggests. Till this point i take words from Leo with faith, I believe he is pointing to the truth , which makes me extremely delusional. When you think about it with your own mind you can literally go insane , how can someone claims that You are not born ? and You believe it ? Holy Cow! Actualized is as I claim very hard to take it critically and easily you can fall in to delusions. That's because people lack leaders and people are in need of leaders. Everywhere you go there are people looking for leaders such as Leo to guide them. Which will causes this work to work only 1% of the time. the rest 99% are just followers of the leader. Painfully , I admit i am one of these followers. I still take this radical claims like you were not born with Faith , I believe there is an outlet to realize that , which is Literally insane. as I said before , How can someone make such a claim and people believe them ! HOLY COW!
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Depression is fluctuations. Depression is mood fluctuations. Depression is your own mind going in and out between one thought to the next , this creates friction, friction is a form of fluctuation , fluctuation is depression. Going from one thought to the next , from one mood to the other , causes friction, friction is depression. fluctuations are depression. To heal from depression you need inner stability. Inner stability means less fluctuations , less friction. Inner stability is when your mind doesn’t pull you like a dog from one idea to the other one. Stability is inner peace.
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My Idol survival theory is a theory I have developed after contemplating why do I behave the way I behave , and why do people behave the way they behave. I came across the conclusion that I like to call it " My idol theory" What's My Idol ? My Idol is a theory that states that your behavior and beliefs are entirely based on people that have influenced , or impacted you the most during the past. For Example: If your idol is a rich businessman, you'll likely see that reflect in your life , by working hard or having motive to be rich. If your idol is your mother, you might tend to behave the way your mother behaved. If your idol was a teacher in your high school , you can reflect on your life and realize that you have high respect for teachers in general. You can have a mix of idols , for example you might have The rich businessman, your mother, and the teacher you met at your highschool all influencing your beliefs behaviors and actions all at once. Upon reflection I realized that words that comes from the biggest influencers in your life tend to impact you the most and maybe even slightly change your opinion, you tend to AGREE with your idols and biggest influencer.s I reflected on my life and realized I have 3 idols Leo Gura, A friend I met during a vacation abroad, A friend I met during University. I reflected on my actions and behaviors and realized that the actions i would likely take in life are actions that my influencers took. For example: Leo gura takes DMT . If someone offers me DMT I will smoke it probably because my idol did too. The friend in my university tells me you need to pray and get close to god. I will more likely follow what my friend says because he is a big influencer in my life. The friend i met during a vacation doesn't have children and never got married. I will more likely tend to go this route , never have children and never marry. Conflicting Idols As you see in my situation there is a conflict between my idols , one tells me to smoke dmt and realize that you are god, the other tells me to pray to god. Conflicting idols can exist and result in conflicting behavior. I asked bunch of people who are the people that influenced them the most or impacted them the most during their lifetime. And realized that they will more likely take actions that their influencers took before. Leo talks about not taking this work as a belief system and to not to idolize your spiritual teachers. But that's practically impossible in my opinion. Now the mic is yours. Who are the people that impacted you the most during your life , or people that influenced yourself the most? Who are your Idols ?
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When I've read this passage I had an intense feeling of an emotional reaction. I would say because of the need and desire to be flawless. I wouldn't describe it as "anger" it was ...... but a kind of emotional suffering . It was really a form of suffering when I've read this passage. I don't know what to call it probably a feeling of "shame" or "Inadequacy".
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Hello Natasha, Thanks for your insights, this has brought some clarity to my own experience as well. Before when I was really young I used to be really reactive but then I grew up and brought distance between my emotions and my actions. When I was a child I used to fight with my brother a lot , like we were in a wrestling match, Because we were angry at each other. But the more I grow the less reactive i become. I want to invite you to think with me about something I want to develop in myself. I still feel I can't properly label my emotions with word. i struggle to find the labels for what i'm feeling , do you face that issue ? For example I ask myself , what am I feeling right now? I look and there is just this dispositions of thoughts/feelings but I can't find any words for them, I can't properly find a word to describe what this emotion is. About months/year ago Leo posted on their blog about Identifying your own emotions, and a list of emotions you can read through wikipedia. I still don't know what was their intention back then, because I read all of them and still I struggled to identify what I'm feeling. or I can't find words for what I'm feeling. It's probably that I'm not feeling the same range of emotions that every person on earth experience , because we are all different right? So My question for you is how did you develop this feeling/emotional discernment, what kind of nuances did you find ? Can you Label them ? And how did you reach a state where you have felt these subtle shifts? Also I want to say , like their are some emotions that I experience very rarely. For example being sad. In my adulthood I do not remember one moment where I teared up! in contrast, I sometimes for example feel angry, sometimes joy sometimes jealousy. But it oscillates between these feelings , it doesn't go further than that. Even tho the realm of emotions is huge , i don't get to experience all of it in my life. Like I said , I get sad very very rarely I don't get to eat from the cake of sadness the same way I eat from the cake of jealousy and anger.
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Regarding the post about reactivity. Some days ago someone treated me with a really disrespectful way. I sat with myself I observed my mind getting really in a hurdle. I was emotionally damaged I felt it got under my skin. Then I realised something. i had the choice to react to that person, but i chose not to. I could have told them “ what you did was really disrespectful” wouldn’t I have been in a better state ? Rather than staying silence and eating my reactivity up. i realised something, your reaction determines your trip !! If you react to that person immediately you become cursed with a snow ball of more reactions and proving yourself that you are more right than them. That in some cases like we see in crimes ends with Violence. What Leo teaches is what sages can do, not a chimp! Not a mediocre human. I as well have eaten a lot of bad reactions up and didn’t react to them, not because I can’t but because I didn’t want to feed into the snowball effect. i’m still thinking critically and haven’t decided entirely. Should one react ? Or not? reaction sometimes show that you self respect yourself which guides your trip into a better realm than if you stayed silent . Staying silent and eating negativity up can damage your psychological well being. i came to a conclusion , it’s a lose lose situation. But sometimes non reactivity wins. “Sometimes” you either feed yourself into the snowball of reactivity and react or stay silent and eat shit up but that will damage your psychological well being. think with me , is it better to react or not ? Also one thing more for you Leo, a lot of reason you’re getting a lot of crap is because you are an online figure. Most of the people that tempt you on this forum do so because they can get away with it without having to face your face. And because online figures are not respected the same way a human you see in real life. You respect people a lot more when you see them in person, not through a screen. try to organise a meeting with someone on the forum that has criticised you dreadfully. You will see immediately that in real life they are way more tolerable, and after they see you they will immediately have more respect to you. At least this was my experience. Social media and Internet is a crap place and it ‘s very hard to find a decent human. i have been into discord and after I got into the channel someone immediately said “ get the fuck off” , the funny part is I don’t remember anything to instigate them to react that way. But it hurted me , be aware of internet Leo. It’s a crap place.
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Nick_98 replied to Nick_98's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"Nothing" is a fictional concept. What is nothing? Lol. I'm not an AI bot. I was legitimately questioning. The fact that you thought I'm AI , tells you how good AI have become so that you confused an actual human for AI. AI time has begun ! -
Nick_98 replied to Nick_98's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
the question sends me to the same bubble of imagination, nothing is a fictional concept in my mind. How can I pop it ? -
Hello Awakened Gurus, Think about this post as thinking with you This post is about thoughts , What are thoughts? I was sitting their philosophizing asking myself What is a thought? In other words, What is the substance that made the thought? I then came to the conclusion that I should observe the phenomena rather than getting entangled to a fiction image of "substance" and "thought" I kept watching as the thought emerges, But what does it mean " the thought emerged" ? That has sent me again to a fantasy bubble, a loop that every time I try to get away from, I get back inside it. Seriously. What is the substance of a thought ? , DAMN! Here we go again , I have sent myself into a bubble of fantasy , What is "substance"? and What is "thought"? What made a thought ? , But what is a thought ? And moreover what's the experience like of thoughts emerging ? BUT WHAT IS EXPERIENCE ? These questions keep me sending back to the same bubble of fantasy Observe your thoughts ? WHO IS OBSERVING !? THOUGHT ? WHAT IS IT ? I'm looking for someone to guide me finding the truth, Each time i question myself I get sent into a bigger bubble of fantasy , they do not POP . They keep sending me to the same loop. What is your take?
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Nick_98 replied to Davino's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I really like your take on this one. Can you please elaborate on this point and give some concrete examples ? -
Nick_98 replied to Davino's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ignoring thoughts might lead you to ignore people, which won't work if you are building a career by being a person with high interpersonal skills. This works only if you have an isolated lifestyle.
