MarkKol

So much heavy emotions, it makes you cry instantly.

Completely unrelated to this thread, but I watched 15 minutes of that trump interview, clicked pause and a this video popped up Its Mark!

Of course, because Art can't really influence or manipulate objects nor can it do anything physically, the only object it can provide value to is your mind (I guess) It's interesting how Art can't help a Rabbit in the wild, but can help you with... something... Rabbits don't draw, but humans have been drawing for millions of years, which makes me think that even the lowest of the low, the least developed humans like Neanderthals actually saw something in it. they still did it even with their limited equipment / stones. Alright so what are your examples of Art providing you with something valuable, I bet you're going to struggle with expressing it tangibly, but try your best. My guess is that Art makes you feel different, not necessary good but different. But that can't be all, if that's all then Art isn't anything special and by that I mean it doesn't differ from many other things in life. I'm not claiming anything, just "freestyling it" Post Novels or anime, or even western Cartoons /films of course everything from Music to documentaries is also welcome, anything that was made by someone, you would consider an Artist.

@KingCrimson How does a song change your life??

sculptors are about to make a lot of money, $1000000 for a Putin's head

Maybe read some books on Simplicity, modesty & minimalism. After I did so I started to value having less stuff and quite enjoyed being frugal and modest with my money. A lot of the times I forget to eat because I have no desire for material possessions. I haven't bought any clothes since I was 13. Fasting is easy and comes naturally, especially when I'm traveling. 24h fast is nothing

I've read a couple of articles and watched some videos about Art and Engineering while also reading Biographies about people who we're really good in those fields. I think I need both, the thing I've been struggling with is: I love the impact technical and scientific people make on the world, but I hate being technical and dealing with stupid complexity all the time. I knew that already, but yesterday I started feeling differently about Art, I can see the point of it but also its flaws. Art doesn't make a tangible enough impact while engineering does (for me), Engineering without Art... the best way I can put it now, feels like a dry sponge without any juice or water in it. now the challenge is, how do I merge those two with my life purpose. Engineering alone is too technical, dry and I'm afraid of becoming the person who thinks about solving math problems all day Art is not tangible enough to put it plainly, the difference it makes is too conceptual and theoretical for me to lay down in my bed at the end of the day and say... Yup today I made a big difference. I always questioned the actual value of my advice, even when the person thanks me for it. I always thought, what if that advice was just a placebo effect and the person I gave it to is just bullshitting himself into thinking it made them grow? I watched a video about a guy who started making Bionic legs for disabled children and thought to myself: I would never question the impact something like that makes, that's the type of difference I want to make in the world. I'm only stage orange entering into green, so I'm closer to a monkey than a sage, and that's probably why. A monkey is more likely to feel happy that he gave a banana to another monkey then a monkey feeling happy that he gave Wisdom to another monkey. Art and Engineering; Both fill each others gaps and therefore I decided I'm going to do my best to be involved in both. Thanks everyone

Your personal bias/the bias of SD Orange. I can see that for sure, I'm definitely bias. but I'm trying to understand and move up a stage, but I don't know how. many times I even struggle to understand how Leo's work is important, the only difference is that is resonates with me intellectually, but emotionally I could never convince myself to make something like that my purpose. To my stage orange mind it seems like what he's doing is inefficient because people aren't willing to care about Wisdom or Integrity or Truth. Nothing wrong with his content of course but it seems like people(People who listen to him) are the bottleneck in all this.

is validation important? feel seen? then it seems like people are babies and art is a pacifier they can suck on, nobody gets up in the morning saying "Ah! ready to give everybody validation and comfort, because that's Important!"

@Gili Trawangan Oh I'm not saying I can't appreciate good movies, In fact I'm a huge fan & and love them to death. but just how do you convince yourself that that's the most important work you could be doing?

You get me, I'm also interested in Art an I've been considering turning it into my life purpose for months now. But I always fail to see what's the point of it, and it has to be strong! how am I supposed to wake up in the morning saying my work is the most important thing there is? how can you say that when all you do is paint or make cartoons? (which is what I'm interested in) how can cartoons or music be the most important thing there is? a person who thinks that has to be seriously misguided about everything. I can bullshit myself into thinking that Cartoons are important, but I can never bullshit myself into feeling that cartoons are important. replace "Cartoons" with every artistic field, they're all the same.

I agree, every work can be seen as art. Maybe I'm not clear here, I'm trying to compare Technical people and people interested in science, math, engineering to people interested in Storytelling, books/writing, music, film, sculpting, animation, 3D modeling, Games and the rest A good example is China and their ban on Video games, I think its safe to assume that they think video games & movies and somehow harmful to society.

Examples: the people we consider valuable, noble and who shaped our society Mathematicians, Scientists, Leaders, Engineers (overall technical people) 1. Albert Einstein 2. Elon Musk (Tesla,Spacex,Paypal,TBC) 3. Alan Turing (So impactful they put him on the 50 pound note) 4. Steve Jobs (Apple) 5. Bill Gates (Microsoft) 6. Henry Ford (The Ford Company) Maybe it's because Leaders are more impactful, and most Artists have no interest in Leadership it seems, but technical people do. take those I listed above and compare them to these: 1. Pablo Picasso 2. Michelangelo 3. Walt Disney (Honesty, I don't even know how something like Disneyland contributes to humankind, its all just fun and games...) 4. Every Musician ever (I googled most well known musicians, and I feel like even if you took all 50ish of them that we're listed in the search, all 50 couldn't hold a candle to a single one listed above) 5. George Lucas 6. Quentin Tarantino These last two we're the best examples. The Musicians seem to be the least valuable. it really seems like these people we're just the support pillars to inspire the people who actually made a difference. Albert was a fan of music, SteveJ loved Bob Dylan

@Gili Trawangan What about artists who make action movies? those don't connect you to God?

How the hell is Jordan unaware of Actualized.org if they're on the same podcast talking about Noam Chomsky, It would be awesome if more mainstream guys discovered Actualized.org, And if that's too much to ask for at least Spiral Dynamics has to get popularized So tired of only being able to talk about these things on this forum, online.

It also has the most important thing of all League of Legends

Leo's expectation of JP dropped so hard when he said nature is everything lol

@Focus Shift There is a guy on Youtube who made such an amazing 3D video series about aliens, and he only received minimal help from other artists if I can remember correctly. I can't access youtube right now but I think the series is 3 or 4 videos long, if you add up those videos It probably comes close to 1.30h or 2 hours, and that's exactly how long films are. It's MelodySheep on YT the series is called Life beyond It did take him a long time to make those vids, but hey Eric Barone the guy who made Stardew Valley coded the game by himself in 4 years.

you have a ghost girl with you? that means that you're the protagonist of this reality and I'm just the side character... fuck.

A series? I deeply considered taking the same path as you, becoming a animator and making a series. I quickly realized that it wouldn't work, A series that is... make a film, a series is going to take you way longer, way more money, way more time and to top it all off its going to make you way less money than a film, Films are wayyy easier to market to people and do better financially almost every time. There was no report about how much Demon Slayer made as a series, but the Demon Slayer film (Mugen train) broke world records and is sitting at the top of every Anime ever created (Including series and films) at $503 Million only box office revenue, when you count all the other income sources like merch... that film is way up there in the Trillions. Its a more long term advice, I was planning on creating a film and then move to series. Maybe I'll actually pursue that dream, I had innovative ideas like creating world's first 2D Character rigging system so that 2D animation can be done faster and cheaper resulting in better efficiency and better money management and allocation.

the media is taking the biggest shit on joe right now

So you think you can't realize your life purpose while going to high school? what makes you think realizing your life purpose is easier with a job rather than high school? its clearly a foolish assumption, thinking that a job is easier than high school. You definitely lack real life experience and proper judgment because 1. you're 16 and 2. you're saying this BS you can realize your life purpose and go to high school at the same time, go realize your life purpose and build SKILL in a field. That's pretty much the only thing you can do being so young, and don't wait on building skills... they're crucial for your success START RIGHT NOW, you have a 2 year head start so START NOW. The way you're going to make money is with skill, don't think you're just going to build a business that's going to make you money.

That's really fucking funny, what's funnier is how sensitive stage green is to words just because some ******* decided it was offensive to their race.

How are the rest 6 deadly sins, are they self actualizing as well?

Steve Jobs only ate fruit most his life, and he died of pancreatic cancer. I thought about it a lot after reading his biography, the link between the pancreas and fruit/sugar. That diet definitely* cut his life short.