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Most of you have not heard about this model. Disciples of Clair Graves's work did a helluva job popularizing it into Spiral Dynamics. But not so much with Kazimierz Dabrowski's theory of positive disintegration (TPD). Yet, this model deserves to be as well-known IMO. This is for you if you are: gifted an HSP extrasensory alienated by society in general The theory places emotional intelligence (EQ) over cognitive (IQ) in terms of real transformation to get to levels of consciousness of mystics and sages. The theory says if you're going though deep emotional struggle as you try to make sense of self and society, it's a massive sign you're actually growing. As you develop you define your values more and more sharply and begin living them more closely. This is what forms a human personality, as opposed to fitting-in. I could go on and on. Here's a couple resources if you're curious. Also can't recommend the book by Sal Mendaglio enough. I'm making a big study out of this work and plan to teach it online in combination with trauma release. @Leo Gura you should check this out. Pairs well with SD and EDT.
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Bro skipped church! 😂 Definately a pro move. You must be from Utah. People I've met there are either Morman, morman outcast refugees, or New Age ESPs like Teal Swan.
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WonderSeeker replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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WonderSeeker replied to WonderSeeker's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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What's up, y'all. First trip report in years. No, the title is not clickbait, I actually became Trump on today's trip (read on). A little context... From 2019-2023, ALL my LSD/mushroom trips ran exactly the same. Light-hearted "museum" dose trips where I explored my senses and let my consciousness roam around my environment. But 2024-now? Trips literally teleport me between "this" reality and somewhere else. In today's 3.5g mushroom trip, I had the usual come-up symptoms: - tingly feeling along spine - visual enhancements - clear insights I lied down on my hotel room floor, windows shades open, so the sun could shine on my body. The warmth felt amazing. When it felt natural I got up and sat in my bed (like I was on a roller coaster waiting to depart the station). I got really cold so I put on several layers. What happened next I could not have predicted. I felt like I hitched a ride on a rocket ship leaving the planet - no control. I surrendered my entire being. I became the earth. Climate change took over. As the earth, I watched forests get wiped-out by 10,000 mph winds. Earthquakes shaking all civilization down. Then, even more shocking... I BECAME Donald Trump. I merged with his consciousness and experienced billionaire wealth and supreme commander power. It felt great and shockingly I felt no resistance (I'm not a Trump fan by the way). From here I got up and looked out of my 6th floor hotel window. I observed the busy Taco Bell with pure awareness. I felt the struggle of the drive thru patrons as they confusingly navigated the poor set-up. All seen from an eagle-view. What happened next is where it got CRAZY. I slid into my FIRST EVER rodeo with infinite love. I get swept up in a fuckin oceanic hurricane of deep, pure love. I started flipping around my hotel room. I tore my bed apart and summer-salted off of it 2 or 3 times (somehow didn't sustain any injuries). Just when I thought it was over, it was not. The love kept getting more and more infinite. It was so good I couldn't fucking believe it... pure ecstasy. I could literally hear the frequency in my ears getting higher and higher as I soared beyond reality. I thought of Ken Wilber, Peter Ralston, Leo. I realized I'm creating them and I became conscious of how I was doing it. The whole time I felt like I was orgasming HARD from my root through my ribs. Tears slowly and gently leaked out of my eyes and into nothingness. I knew trips could take you places, but this was a totally different level. Who else has had such experiences???
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what kind of AI response was that hahaha Woah that's wild. But that's a perfect example of being Positively Integrated. Life is simpler and functional. Nothing wrong with it per se. Where would you place yourself now having removed yourself from the Morman way? There's five. I. Positive Integration II. Unilevel Disintegration III. Spontaneous Multilevel Disintegration (no going back) IV. Coordinated Multilevel Disintegration V. Positive Reintegration Level five pairs well with the tenth Ox-hearding picture. Master returns to the marketplace. 1,000% with the scarcity thing. It feels so wrong when you know they're psychologically weak and you "sell" them. I regret a couple sales where I pressured them.
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WonderSeeker replied to WonderSeeker's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I have the best speeches. The finest. You know it. They know it. The ratings. Oh! And, do the weave. -
WonderSeeker replied to WonderSeeker's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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I don't but plan to in 10 years (I'm 26).
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Ah, sheit. I used to think the same way. And guess what? I didn't succeed. Why do you assume truth is not practical? Don't you need to practice something to access truth?
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Simple: being open-minded is a meta-opinion you have. You prefer it over being closed-minded. Open-mindedness even allows you to be closed-minded in cases where you don't have all available data (which is 99.99% of the time). Follow your gut and course-correct to save time.
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^Is this the main reason you want to go the USB route? You're giving up interlinking, embedding, ease of access, time, etc. Seems like a hassle. PDFs in a folder is so 2010
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@Leo Gura You sonofabitch, I had work to do!
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This was fun. Got me thinking deeper about thought and relationship. But it goes w/o saying: knowing SD biases the results up! I could see which Qs = which color stages as I took the the test. It forced me to use my felt-sense to choose answers rather than choosing the ideal answer that I don't genuinely believe yet. Thanks for sharing!
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Happy year 40! Does it feel like you've lived multiple lives in a way?
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I've met Owen multiple times IRL. Great guy. You can tell his heart is in the right place. He loves his kids. Spends lots of money to take them with him on his travels. But I sometimes wonder: does he guide his kids toward what they authentically like/want, or is he just trying to get them to be a particular way (the way he wants them to be)? Owen has light-level autism and clearly psychomotor overexcitabilities (he can'tstay still and can talk infinately). He's unique in these ways. I wonder if he's projecting these on Dylan when maybe Dylan is more sensitive in other ways? Time will tell. Personally I think no matter what parents do, every individual needs to find themselves. Owen says he never lets his kids see him angry. So what happens when Dylan gets his wallet stolen by a crackhead. Will he be allow himself to feel anger + take appropriate action? Who knows.
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As they say, show don't tell
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It's funny cuz I feel like I'm living two lives where on the left hand I mingle with society. But on the right I explore myself and my passions deeply. Yeah the model sort of breaks down around Level V.
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Brother, that's actually part of the model. At Level I you have some people who maladjust to society in the negative direction (pyschopaths, sociopaths). But you can also have people who are positively maladjusted. These are the ones who start progressing through the levels. Doesn't mean they cram themselves into their homes and do nothing. You stay in society as you learn to make more sense of it and your emotions. Interesting. I've been in sales for a year. There's some truth to what you said about the stereotype. However, I literally "winged" with some of the top reps in the D2D industry last year. They're fuckin machines and ABSOLUTELY will act nice and do anything to get the sale. No different than a sexy stripper girl walking up and sedeucing guys at the strip club. Then you have genuine dudes who connect with people and find real Win/Wins. I have a friend in furniture sales who does exactly this. Then, yes, you have MLK 'selling' millions on his vision. This sales thing was quite the tangent... Watching the above videos is like licking a 4x10 foot popsicle that comprises the whole theory. Like any other model you need to study it deeply. Or you'll easily misunderstand it.
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@Ramanujan What currently interests you? What were you hoping to get from Mastery but didn't? What project are you working on? - - - Helps to have a goal. If you don't know it, ask yourself questions like those above. Once you know your why, you'll find the right book. Or it'll find you.
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@ShardMare This is one of those questions where you just wanna sit in it rather than answer it. Because most answers are circular and don't get you deeper. Just look at everything above ^ I think Leo has some video called Sameness vs Difference you could check out. But really you can't get a solid answer to this Q through language. Try feeling for it instead.
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@TheGod Based thread my friend. I went through a similar phase early on. Only went to this one club because it had this hypnotic Japanese DJ. Everyone had swirls in their eyes. Had my first makeout there. Good times. Yours are on the way.
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Being evil isn't freedom. It's actually below freedom.
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@Leo Gura On the Corruption of Success post... First of all, that was one hell of a read. Pure brilliance. But as I read it, questions shot up. Does that mean that to find success, it's necessary to fail a ton? I failed massively at business in my first year, but now I'm starting to reach the early stages of success. I'm already wondering how I might fall into this trap myself and how to avoid it. Do you recommend staying highly connected to those who are a few steps behind you to remember what the average person deals with, so as not to enter too rigid of a bubble? I imagine being picky with friends helps too. Cheers man-
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A bit of a clickbait--- What I've been trying to wrap my head around for weeks is why otherwise intelligent thought-leaders threw their support behind Trump. @Leo Gura, your recent post about political lessons riled me up to post this. In the past couple years I've had the fortune of meeting Owen Cook several times. Cool, quirky guy. Taught me a lot. However, he put out a couple of videos earlier in the year that sent off alarm bells in the pit of my stomache. "No f*cking way," I thought. This guy is... a Trumper. Here are the videos. You'll notice in these videos, he didn't outright say he supported Trump. But if you're aware enough, it'll be obvious. Own is a self-proclaimed individualist. After being the closest person to Julien-gate (outside of Julien himself), he must have gotten the idea in him that "oh shit, they can take me down at any minute." Which to be fair to him, is true. And that's the problem. Owen sees Trump as the best option for getting him to a place where he can post what he really wants. For proof, here's a recent chat between us [attached]. At the end of the day, he is looking out for himself and he's afraid of his own freedoms. This of course, at the expense of all the disastrous shit Trump is going to do when he resumes power. And that's the problem, not just with Owen, but with Rogan, Lex, JP, and the other bros who hopped on the train. They would rather ride the bro-train then actually stand for the truth. That's why Lex and Rogan sucked Trump's dick in their interviews. Never challenged him once. --- I stopped following Owen and his teachings months ago and I don't regret it. Still a great guy with life-changing content. But the political crap was a selfish mistake. Time will tell.