WonderSeeker

I like this thread idea! One mistake I made — although I wouldn't necessarily redo it now — is trying to build a business and paying for expensive, live PUA programs while already in debt. In other words, taking dumb risks. I was in my early 20s, fresh out of college, and ambitious, so I said 'fuck it'and racked up credit card debt on top of student debt. Now I'm in my late 20s and a hardcore conservative with my money. Putting everything that's not non-discretionary expenses straight to debt payments. Should be out of debt in 3 years. Then will take more calculated "risks" when the time's right. ----- Another mistake I made was dating an ex-Vegas stripper psychopath. Again, being young, stupid, and horny, I did it for the sex. Well, ended up with the best sex of any of our lifetimes, but new trauma I had to process after I got the police to drag her away. Again, I wouldn't necessarily redo this one because it taught me incredibly valuable life lessons I wouldn't learn in any other way (like the PRECISE workings of a narcissist / psychopath, not just a YouTube video about it but direct experience). But I also wouldn't relive it either. ----- @YIDIRYIDIR appreciate you sharing this. You've got some interesting ones — I resonate a little bit with the "violent communication" one.

Kinda hard to act that. If that's acting, he could easily be in Hollywood.

Knew you'd say that. Gonna push back. Isn't it true that helping people access Truth is more good than being uncalibrated with what you share (thereby steering people away from truth-seeking)? Why even post at all Leo?

Awakening is 100% positive The last 30 seconds of that reel kinda freaked me out. Maybe it's positive from the 1st person, but watching that from the 3rd person is unsettling as fuck ----- On the substance, he's right. I had my first awakenings in early 2021. They were both incomplete. I felt depressed and de-personalized at first. In the years since, I've had far deeper ones and now baseline existence is really good and satisfying. It's actually quite hard to be depressed at all...

I'm 28 and couldn't agree more. Psychedelics amplified and eventually pushed me through an old career, forcing me to switch lanes to stay true to myself. I'm not using them again until I get my finances stable, have a good relationship, and learn more about the world. There's absolutely no rush to depart for the heavens.

Grabbed the book list years ago and still buying books from it. So worth it! Also if you're interested, I highly recommend Daniel Schmachtenberger and Jordan Thornton's book lists on society/game theory and depth psychology respectively.

Disillusionment Post Oh how I appreciated this post. It made me realize precisely why I am NOT currently engaged in spiritual practices — even though a part of me REALLY wants to be! The more you engage the spiritual, the less practical and conventionally successful you can be. Why? Because you stop caring about material goals — duh! With the goals I currently have in life (paying off debt and moving toward financial freedom, finding a dream girlfriend/wife, and having a family in 10ish years), not going hard at spirituality the way I did 5 years ago just makes sense. At 23 I meditated daily for over a year, took psychedelics, and made amazing leaps in consciousness at the time. At 28 I'm becoming balanced in the practical, the real, the material; I am too young to depart for the stars fully. Maslow's hierarchy is a slooooooow climb. Anyone relate?

To those who is going, let the rest of us know what the experience is like. Sounds like a great opportunity go extraordinarily deep.

Professor Jiang created a video on the social matrix!! His opening line: "Our world is a hallucination, a collective fantasy." I watched this and the following videos in series to make sense of the evolving situation in Iran (which has been gripping my awareness and informing my financial/lifestyle actions lately): - Eschatological Convergence - Law of Asymmetry - Escalation Ladder - US-Iran War His new video ties in well with Leo's OG Social Matrix video as a foundation. Never ever have we had access to this many high quality teachings for free. Blessed to be alive today

His takes on Trump around 34:00 are shockingly awful. For how smart Jaing is I fail to understand how he comes to these bullshit conclusions about Trump such as: - he won 2020 - he's a victim and everyone was trying to cancel him even though he was innocent - he's not a part of "the elite" Even with a fraction of nuance, he still made it seem like Trump is this brilliant guy that is to be trusted and should be seen in a more bright light. In a different interview with Patrick Bet-David, he said he would have voted for Trump in 2024 if he could. That's bizzaro considering he's also claimed to be "on the left," and for democracy. I understand Jiang's main operating principle is viewing everything as a power-play. Maybe in his mind he cares less about the 1st person on-the-ground reality and sees the world as a giant, impersonal 10-D chess game of power. Hard to tell. ----- The spiritual insights he brought up were great though. His analogy of the body as a husk, with a divine spark seeking other divine sparks hit home. Glad he recognizes this. This is the most important thing to keep in mind...

You think or you know? Trauma is curable, but it takes real work. If you have a treasure trove of teachings but can't apply them, that's on you, not Teal (or anyone for that matter). How do I know this? I've taken bits and pieces from Teal Swan, Jordan Thornton, and took Julien Blanc's trauma program and have seen a HUGE transformation. Before all I did was casually watch theory. It works.

Gun to your head. You can only choose one song. The most beautiful, meaningful piece of auditory art you've ever heard. What is that piece for you? For me, it's this: I love this piece so much. It uses a river as a metaphor for life. At the start of a river, there is a lot of energy and momentum, as in with children. "Hey there little speedy-head. The read on the speed-meter says, you have to go to task in the city." But at the beginning of your life, it seems like you will go on forever. "It's only just light-years to go." Yet, as we all know, life is chaotic and full of larger than life forces that rock you on your back. As you get older it starts to gain momentum. "Leave the road and memorize this life that passed before my eyes. Nothing is going my way." As a 28 year old I appreciate the hell outta of this piece, because it puts me in touch with my mortality and makes me honor the shortness of my life. "The ocean is a river's goal. 'A need to leave,' the water knows. We're closer now than light-years to go." Now there is a deeper desire to make something of this life. To seek the ocean, the infinite. Mortal pressure is necessary and good for this to happen. "There's no one left to take the lead. But I tell you and you can see, we're closer now than light years to go." Again, this awareness, this strange attractor-pull toward the mysterious, infinate ocean. But now all of your illusions are seriously falling apart. You think to yourself 'nobody else has the truth, so it must rest with me. I must find it and tell it to myself.' Which means your God ofc. "Pick up here and chase the ride. River empties to the tide. Fall into the ocean." Jump in. Headfirst. It's your destiny. Do it with grace, honor, and love. "There is nothing left to throw of ginger, lemon, indigo. Coriander stem and the rose of hay." This is it. We left it ALL on the table. Our work here is done. "Strength and courage overrides the privileged and weary eyes of river poet search naïveté." He who is courageous enough to figure out life is a true philosopher. A sage. He who chases the wrong things, who is spoonfed truth without discernment, who arrests his development at naive level is a fool. "Pick up here and chase the ride. The river empties to the tide. All of this is coming your way." This means one of two things. 1) You ARE the ocean (Universe, God), and you (the river, your human self) is flowing back to You (your eternal Self). 2) Or, if you are still young like me, and the journey itself is 'coming your way.' The journey of going from high-energy, foolish young adult to calm, wise sage. I hope you enjoy this song and look forward to seeing what you all share <3

Speaking from experience. Do not do it... IF you already have debt. The mirage of others making money doing this trendy thing looks nice on the surface. But that's all it is: a mirage. That said if you're really gonna do this, pay for the course in cash only. In the time it takes you to make the cash needed to pay for the course, you might realize it isn't even all that. I invested $6k in a online ghostwriting course last year (paid mostly on my credit card), worked my absolute ass off, and only make $2k back. Risk is only worth it if you're still very young and you know for certain you have leverage. Take 6 months to learn more about the business model and to make that $1,200. That way you've given yourself leverage at least.

I've had that happen around the peak of some mushroom trips before. Low-key one of the most oddly satisfying things I've experienced while tripping.

Will this book help with leadership / leading groups of people? I just switched careers to education. As a school teacher at a private academy in Asia, 80-90% of the kids in each class I teach do not listen and many of whom lack basic respect for the teacher. I've noticed all the other teachers deal with the same thing, but some are far more effective than me at putting these kids in their place. They also have years of experience under their belt, so I'm trying to learn from them. My curiosity is how to get people — including my rambunctious students — to respect me at a baseline.

You said you are tired of living in Lebanon. Is your goal to actually get out? Focus on THAT more than the trajedy, and work toward escaping. Yes, easier said than done, I know. My mom's great-grandparents escaped the Armenian genocide in that region 110 years ago. I don't know their story, but imagine they were feeling a lot of grief and depression too. But they made it. It's not too late to do something to improve your situation. You are here on this personal development forum, so without a doubt you have something to live for. You just have to tune your focus to the right places, opening you up to different possibilities you might be missing at the moment. All the best brother.

I half agree. I think he needs to experiment more because if you have the passion, but cannot systemize it to support yourself — due to a lack of motivation — you may have to search for a secondary passion thats more practical.

If you guys bothered to find and learn from other teachers, then go build businesses, move countries, go on dates, and have awakenings, you wouldn't need another course from Leo.

Gotta love long form! The Mongilian ones were cool... I was fortunate enough to travel to and camp in the steppe a few years ago, so a lot of what he said about Chinnghis Khan and the Mongol empire made sense. ----- New interview popped out of the toaster. Honestly the more I hear him outside of lectures, the more I trust that his intentions are pure. I think people blew him out of proportion for no reason. This guy doesn't want to be a celebrity just like Leo, and I respect that.

I actually watched Klein the other day (can't remember what video though) and found him quite helpful. Good show. And yes, gotta use heavy discernment on that last Jiang video... I think he's smart enough to bring the nuance, but sometimes he leaves it out, forcing me to wonder. It still had some great insights either way. But this video was an actual gem, IMO: I like how it goes really big picture. Not just news of the day. The way Jiang talks about how societies evolve has helped me see how I act in similar ways to world powers in my personal life, and how to improve my own results. I might create a separate thread on this if people want it — I think people are missing this hidden power in his videos. Another guy who has robust insights on geopolitics is Jeff Sachs: Some of what he says counter-balances or contradicts what Jiang predicts which I like. He smooths things out for me. But he mostly looks at things purely from a geopolitical lens. And remember Sachs is older and more directly involved in the overall system (UN for example). That makes some of his insights more experiential, but he also may be blind to other factors. Oh and lastly Sachs is aware China is in a league of its own:

This is true and good epistemic responsibility. I'm curious also.

Indeed subjective, but love the idea and effort. IMO, the "Life Advice For Young People" series reigns undefeated and will never be surpassed. It just has that all-around coverage of personal development from the perspective of a father giving his son the ultimate talk.

Thanks for the clarification. It also came across as shamanic, and having done 25+ psychedelic trips, I could understand and appreciate where the essence of her technique was coming from. The more important thing is the results. They seem authentic and accurate.

Fellow INFP here. Thank you for making this thread as I've thought about making one for years. I hate to break it to ya, but I think we have it the hardest out of all the personality types. You're partiallty right that mass-approaching is stupid in the sense that it doesn't promote connection. That strategy is pure numbers game. At times it can produce success if you remain detached enough and have a lot of fun. Of the hundreds of approaches I've done, it's only worked a few times. Most of the time I'd just get disgusted being in loud clubs talking to rude, judgemental, desentitized, drunk people. That's why I became more interested in day-game. The framework you are searching for is a bit of a unicorn. The way I'm approaching it is I've been stripping out and keeping some of the useful RSD tactics, while discarding all the toxic stuff. Then combining that with doing shadow work. Which means letting go / somatic therapy to become more relaxed in my authentic self. I actually haven't done a lot of approaching in the past couple years. And honestly my results -- or the amount of satisfaction I'm getting romantically -- has been about the same. I thnk it comes down to TONS of experimentation. Not just with game, but most of all with WHO YOU ARE. - Are you on purpose in life? Does you mission make you feel like a badass? - Do you love where you are living? Does it give you the thrills? - Do you have cool hobbies to bring girls into? Having these different universes to share with girls and getting excited about them is what helps me. I highly recommend reading this book. Best book out there on seduction. Especially as an INFP!

I'm trying to be open-minded, but this technique (or whatever it is she is doing) looks awfully woo-woo and performative. What is she actually doing as she breathes like that and waves her hand? It comes off as distracting and unnecessary. Actually, I've had my grandmother -- who is into woo-woo psychic stuff -- do these sorts of 'readings' on me before for healing work, and she spoke in the EXACT same tone and cadence as this woman (which is also strange). Maybe somebody who has studied New Age can help me out. ---------- Aside from that, what she is saying at 2:40-2:50 definately sounds like a reading on Trump. 5:53 is also intereting. Less than 1% being shown (ie, authenticity ?). Makes a lot of sense. Overall insightful.