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@inFlow why is it arrogant?

@electroBeam how so?

@SamueLSD The fact that I got banned unfairly suggests that I outgrew the forum. So I’m ready to move on.

@inFlow watch your ego. Your the one who engaged in ad hominem attacks for stating my opinion. That makes you a sheep by definition. That’s a fact, nothing personal.

@Dazgwny yet he encourages his followers to do the same. It’s not like they’ve worked on this problem for 20 years.

@Visionary just hope you're ok Leo. Believe it or not.. but even kids have a certain wisdom parents have become blind to. Wow. very profound, and I agree with you completely.

@inFlow I never doubted his insights. Just his methods. Again, it’s ridiculous to assume that im jealous of him because im concerned if this is the right way. I don’t understand why that was necessary, unless your a sheep. Which you are.

@Socrates I never said I didn’t want to do 5meo. I will do it for sure. But it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that something is wrong here. Leo claims that 5meo will fix his health problems. That he uses it become enlightened. That it’s the magic pill. Look at Martin ball he used 5meo to become enlightened. He also suffers from chronic sleep issues. Leo suffers from debilitating health problems. I wonder if that has anything at all to do with the unbalanced lifestyle. Using 5meo as some kind of cure all. Focusing on this one psychedelic.

@Leo Gura I’m sure I misinterpreted what you are saying as healing is more subtle than that. It was my ego getting in the way. However my point still stands. Just read the YouTube comments under you recent videos, those criticisms are valid unlike the sheep on this forum that follow you blindly.

@Leo Gura what am I suppoused to do? Get access to 5meo dmt now? You said all other methods are a waste of time right? What ever happened to kriya yoga? I’ve been following that for the past month. Better just drop it and smoke some 5meo. Problem solved. Too fat? You don’t need to workout. Just use 5meo. It will heal all illnesses once you realise your god by miraculously zapping away your body fat. Give me a break. My yoga teacher Was right to criticise you. He seems far more balanced and he has worked with 5meo for over a decade It’s getting really hard to take you seriously now.

@Leo Gura I don’t need to try heroin to know that when I see a heroin junkie that something is wrong. I am pretty open-minded but I can sense something is wrong with the path your following right now. It seems very unbalanced. But suit yourself i guess.

@Martin123 I don’t think this place was intended to be a cult, but most people are too stupid to think for themselves and follow everything on this forum blindly without doing their own research. They parrot Leo’s words. Leo always stressed open mindedness but I get attacked for ever questioning Leo by some of his followers. A few people on here are actually pretty solid, but it’s rare.

@Leo Gura just because someone said that doesn’t mean it’s good advice. Do you think they had 5meo dmt when that advice was given? your straw manning me. I didn’t say you should pursue enlightenment without seriousness, just that you should take precautions and maybe slow down. You said each awakening is deeper than the last and that there is no bottom right? So what’s the point of trying to get to the bottom? I feel like you could ease the pedal and stop compressing your development. You could develop other aspects of yourself like your physical body with ashtanga yoga since ultimately everything is being transmitted through your body. Make the antenna more durable. Slow down the pace of the psychedelic use and integrate over a period of 10 years rather than 2. Ultimately you are still in a limited human form, perhaps you should embrace it.

@Leo Gura Im not critizing your use of it, and I’m not disputing it’s value, but your going down a path that no has gone down before. To me and a lot of other people who support you, it seems like your overloading yourself and relying heavily on this single substance. It feels like your compressing your spiritual journey. Just going way too fast and trying to embody God himself. Pursuing awakening after awakening. Surely this must take a toll on you. You look like you have aged 15 years or something in the past two years. Look at Martin Balls FB page, he has chronic sleep issues and is struggling. My yoga teacher is friends with Martin and he himself has done 5meo multiple times. He told me that it can take a toll on you and if you have a more grounded approach you won’t suffer from such ailments. I’m not even a skeptic of your claims, just the measures you have taken. You saved my life with your videos and I do feel concerned about this path. I have no doubt that 5meo dmt is powerful and works, I’m just worried about you and also about people who might do the same thing. I’m also questioning if I should do it myself, even though I have been following you until now.

@TrynaBeTurquoise so any criticism is wrong? If I object to it I’m silly and projecting. Is it impossible to critizise anything then? Seems like you brainwashed yourself mate. You hide behind everything by claiming projection.

Theoretically if we are able to halt ageing within the next 100 years and If death is no longer significant, what will it mean for spirituality? There is already a lot of promising studies being conducted right now, and even clinical trials (David Sinclair and Aubrey D Grey are prominent scientists in this field). A lot of spirituality is based on overcoming a fear of death and to alleviate suffering. It seems conceivable to me that we could solve the majority of physical ailments and even prevent death altogether in the next 150 years when examining the rapid progression of technology. How will this impacts Leo’s teachings on impermanence and death?

@LfcCharlie4 I was pretending to be Leo.

@Red-White-Light @Preety_India Ageing and age related conditions go hand in hand, so this distinction is irrelevant. Those behaviour you described as “anti-social” are only “anti-social” because we were able to move past being primitive tribes living in “natural” conditions. This was socially acceptable and even encouraged back then. If you really want the most natural lifestyle then why don’t you abandon modern society and live in the woods? I doubt you would survive without all the unnatural technology like modern medicine to help you. Again, just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s good. This is the fallacy. Also you claim that we can never be immortal, but we already have clinical trials showing that we can do just that. We have already identified the genes for ageing. Humans always underestimate what is possible. People didn’t think an AI could beat the best GO player, that we would ever land on the moon, or create nuclear fission. It’s silly to assume that we couldn’t tackle ageing. We are well on the way.

@Red-White-Light Yeah and you know what else is natural? Rape, murder, shitting outside and cannibalism in human tribes. We have evolved past that with technology. It’s a huge fallacy to say that just because something is natural that it’s good. Ageing causes misery for a lot of people because there are a lot negative symptoms associated with it like arthritis, dementia, loss of eyesight. If we can solve the root issue then we can help a lot People.

@Red-White-Light You can choose when you want to die. Ageing is a disease after all. We don’t treat any other illness as a natural part of life and ageing is the ultimate disease we need to tackle.

@Arzack people said the same thing about manned flight, nuclear fission, AI, and other tech.

@LfcCharlie4 I don't think it's possible to never die, but who knows I could be very wrong. you are very wrong. Do some research before you make such ignorant statements.

I interpret it as, get off your ass and start doing the enlightenment work.

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@Preety_India why are you posting this on here? We all have access to his YouTube channel. Please remove it.