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Personally never experienced this

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If I had to guess, I would say he's using his "If I don't believe in depression it doesn't exist" method here Anyways, his recent tweets in general have been very odd

If you existed forever as a limited human identity, would that then make a point? If you couldn't die? What does the ideal scenario look like? BTW, have you ever looked into Franz Kafka's work? I think you would really resonate with his philosophy:

I used to think it was really dumb, because I would drink a lot and it would taste bad and I wouldn't feel much different. Plus, it's a diuretic, so all it would really do for me is make me piss a lot for no reason. It turns out I just have a high tolerance, so I needed to go for harder alcohols (20% alcohol or more) like vodka and whiskey. I like having them combined with some kind of soda or something sweet. But, I've also noticed that my tolerance for exogeneous stimulants in general is very high, even caffeine doesn't have much of an effect on me, so you shouldn't expect to have the same tolerance as me. I would start off with a 5% alcohol drink like a White Claw or something and see how it affects you. If you're normally very introverted, you'll probably find its effect on your state very interesting. I think it's worth experiencing. It will make you more social and easy-going, there will be less filters on what you think and speak. It's a nice feeling. I still don't like wine or beer, they taste awful and don't do much for me. I know that people get addicted to alcohol, but I don't find it to be addictive at all. Maybe because I'm already very health-conscious. I only ever drink it if I'm going to some social event and they happen to have it there, otherwise I've never purposefully gone out and bought it for myself. As for health: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/alcohol-good-or-bad

Our technology and lifestyles are probably advancing faster than our development can handle. It's analogous to giving a chimpanzee a knife. An intelligent person uses the knife to prepare food. An unintelligent person harms themselves with it.

Lol modern cooking is funny in that way. Then you have people who sous vide their meat (boiling it while it is encased in plastic) and that's considered high quality. This is exactly how I perceived food when I was addicted to refined carbs, all that mattered was how it tasted, that was "high-end" and "satisfying". My body's perception has entirely changed since then and I only see "high quality" in things that are genuinely nutritious now.

As Tate said: "I'm risking cancer to look like a mafia boss. I know what I'm doing."

Invoke nostalgia. And then really hone in on those feelings you had before, and ask yourself, why can't you have it now? What does it take to integrate that into your current experience? Go back to what you enjoyed as a kid and reminisce on it. You can use music to do this, or even going for a walk or eating a specific kind of food or playing a certain video game. I've recently awakened some sort of sensitivity by doing this, but it might also be related to this supplement I recently started taking called myo-inositol, or maybe a combination of that and nostalgia has triggered something inside me. Also, socializing helps since it pushes you out of overly-logical thinking. Talk with friends or family or something. Or just go chill at a café so that you're in some sort of new and social setting. And also, allow your experience to be experienced without your mental models and mental input. Let your keyboard be a keyboard instead of "God" or "Infinite Consciousness" or "illusion". Let your experience manifest itself how it wants to and let it play with your imagination however it wants.

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Yes. You can't go from stuffing your face with food every hour for your entire life to not eating for 21 days.

Lmao Honestly that old building seems analogous to the forum

I think you went for like a week long water fast once or something, and I recall you saying in one of your blog videos that your energy levels were the best that you've experienced in a while? Anyways, I did a 40 hour fast once. I already had lots of experience fasting prior, I was able to go 24 hours without any real difficulty. Long story short, without getting into more details, I ended up getting nauseous and vomiting, but immediately afterwards, I felt serious mental clarity for like a month or more. Like some fog or invisible force had been lifted off of my head. My mood was better. I stopped getting angry over stupid things. It fixed my anger issues and made me much more calmer and happier. It almost seemed like it detoxed heavy metals or something. Even my heartbeat was much more stable and less erratic. I am more on the skinny side, btw. I tried looking into why I would've vomited, but no conclusive answers, aside from some ideas about how the liver might have dumped too much toxins into my bile or something. So yeah, fasting is a personal and intuitive thing that you have to be aware of.

Guys, there's nothing wrong with imagination. Remember the SpongeBob episode with the cardboard box?

I've been in one. But I do think it is rare. Sometimes you meet people you don't have a preference and compatibility for romantically/sexually, but at the same time you enjoy hanging out with them normally. It's possible.

You gotta let go of wanting other people to understand you. You understand yourself perfectly. That's enough. You don't have to prove or justify yourself to yourself, because you are yourself. And you know that you're just doing the best you can. Any other understanding that comes from other people is just extra cherries on top.

How does it feel? Like an underlying sense of doom/anxiety that pervades your experience? If it's anything related to stress/cortisol levels, eating a refined carb like bread can quickly stabilize your mood, even if you don't have an appetite. It might seem odd that eating bread could help but that's how our body chemistry is sometimes. It's the same logic behind stress-eating, but don't turn it into an addiction ofc. You could also try showering or going for a walk. Both activities can have meditative effects.

He's not afraid to look egotistical. I think he doubles down on it on purpose. He sees "acting humble" as a façade. Is it egotistical for someone like Leo or Sadghuru to describe themselves as "awake" or "more conscious"? I don't think so. Such concepts and ideas are often used by the ego for self-grandiosity, but not always, and having the courage and authority to say those things as a matter of fact is not a bad practice IMO. It's also a test of true humbleness on your side to see if you are going to be put off by such statements and accuse them of lacking humility or realize that they genuinely do have more experience and knowledge to offer you. Admittedly, his post is very hyperbolic and exaggerated. For example, the part where he says "your whole life and everything out of your mouth has been a lie". Obviously, this isn't exactly true, but it's very eye-catching and dramatic. It would be a mistake to take this at face value since it's just hyperbole to catch your attention. He's just saying that to get his initial point across in a more emphatic way. That's it.

I do think there is a higher risk of instability when it comes to Leo's teaching style, but also, the direct nature of it really speeds up your spiritual progress, at least IME. That's the trade-off. In a sense, Leo has assimilated and personified the teaching style of a psychedelic. He's very direct with what he wants to teach you. He just assumes that you're grounded enough to hear it. He basically just tells you exactly what the psychedelic showed him. Someone like Sadghuru is not gonna do that. Sadghuru will tell you spiritual platitudes that are very palpable in an ordinary state of consciousness. There's no way in hell I was going to learn as much as I did from Sadghuru's videos compared to Leo's videos. Not to put shade on Sadghuru, he also has a great teaching style, and I assume the deeper work happens only in his ashrams. I think this point extends beyond Leo's post, though. This is about his entire teaching style as a whole now.

Is this post of Leo really the straw that breaks the camel's back and causes mental instability? Out of all of his teachings? Really? He called people out for "bullshitting" and being "stupid". This is verbiage you will find across most of the internet, and a lot of his videos as well. If what Leo said seriously destabilizes you mentally then you shouldn't be using online forums, like, at all. Such people are a minority to begin with, and they are seriously mentally unstable. They have much bigger problems to work on than making sure some guy on a forum doesn't use harsh words against them. Using softer language is not what is ultimately going to help or fix people in that state of mind. There is almost always a chance of your words making people offended, making them have an existential crisis, making them angry/emotional, etc. This is unavoidable unless you want to just stop communicating altogether. There comes a point where it becomes neurotic to play this card of "you might seriously mentally damage this person by saying this stuff", which you confirmed never really occurred as you reached out to the OP of the thread. There is definitely a line where language gets too confrontational and unproductive and aggressive. For example, if tomorrow the entirety of the forum were to start communicating the way Leo did indefinitely, I would definitely find that excessive. But, it's not entirely clear where that line is.

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This isn't really anything new from Leo in terms of his teachings. It's just spiced up with swear words. Reminds me of his "Mankind Is The Bullshitting Animal" episode.

Your past self doesn't exist anymore. Literally. You're worrying about ghosts. You are something that is constantly changing and evolving. The Buddha was sitting under a tree talking to his disciples when a man came and spat in his face. He wiped it off, and he asked the man, “What next? What do you want to say next?” The man was a little puzzled because he himself never expected that when you spit on somebody’s face, he will ask, “What next?” He had no such experience in his past. He had insulted people and they had become angry and they had reacted. Or if they were cowards and weaklings, they had smiled, trying to bribe the man. But Buddha was like neither, he was not angry nor in any way offended, nor in any way cowardly. But just matter-of-factly he said, “What next?” There was no reaction on his part. But Buddha’s disciples became angry, and they reacted. His closest disciple, Ananda, said, “This is too much. We cannot tolerate it. He has to be punished for it, otherwise everybody will start doing things like this!” Buddha said, “You keep silent. He has not offended me, but you are offending me. He is new, a stranger. He must have heard from people something about me, that this man is an atheist, a dangerous man who is throwing people off their track, a revolutionary, a corrupter. And he may have formed some idea, a notion of me. He has not spit on me, he has spit on his notion. He has spit on his idea of me because he does not know me at all, so how can he spit on me? “If you think on it deeply,” Buddha said, “he has spit on his own mind. I am not part of it, and I can see that this poor man must have something else to say because this is a way of saying something. Spitting is a way of saying something. There are moments when you feel that language is impotent: in deep love, in intense anger, in hate, in prayer. There are intense moments when language is impotent. Then you have to do something. When you are angry, intensely angry, you hit the person, you spit on him, you are saying something. I can understand him. He must have something more to say, that’s why I’m asking, “What next?” The man was even more puzzled! And Buddha said to his disciples, “I am more offended by you because you know me, and you have lived for years with me, and still you react.” Puzzled, confused, the man returned home. He could not sleep the whole night. When you see a Buddha, it is difficult, impossible to sleep anymore the way you used to sleep before. Again and again he was haunted by the experience. He could not explain it to himself, what had happened. He was trembling all over, sweating and soaking the sheets. He had never come across such a man; the Buddha had shattered his whole mind and his whole pattern, his whole past. The next morning he went back. He threw himself at Buddha’s feet. Buddha asked him again, “What next? This, too, is a way of saying something that cannot be said in language. When you come and touch my feet, you are saying something that cannot be said ordinarily, for which all words are too narrow; it cannot be contained in them.” Buddha said, “Look, Ananda, this man is again here, he is saying something. This man is a man of deep emotions.” The man looked at Buddha and said, “Forgive me for what I did yesterday.” Buddha said, “Forgive? But I am not the same man to whom you did it. The Ganges goes on flowing, it is never the same Ganges again. Every man is a river. The man you spit upon is no longer here. I look just like him, but I am not the same, much has happened in these twenty-four hours! The river has flowed so much. So I cannot forgive you because I have no grudge against you. “And you also are new. I can see you are not the same man who came yesterday because that man was angry and he spit, whereas you are bowing at my feet, touching my feet. How can you be the same man? You are not the same man, so let us forget about it. Those two people, the man who spit and the man on whom he spit, both are no more. Come closer. Let us talk of something else.”

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From what I can see, he decided to take a more extravagant and flamboyant approach by ranting about his take on certain Buddhist philosophies. Yeah, there are harsh words directed at people. but I can see what intention he had behind them, so it doesn't register in my mind as something to be bothered by. The crowbar comment, for example, was referencing a joke about "killing the Buddha on the road with a crowbar". With that context, I don't see it as that big of an issue. I see it as very playful. It's not like he brought up the idea of beating up people with a crowbar completely unsolicited. I don't think he was enraged as you guys might interpret it. I see it as a passionate and hyperbolic on-the-spot rant. But, I might be speaking for myself since I've never really found Leo's teaching style to be "too harsh" as other people have described it. As for whether it's a good way to teach spirituality or not, I don't know. Clearly most people didn't take it well. But, it doesn't seem he cares about appealing to most people anyways.