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@Preety_India Not at all, why is the "world" ruthless? I didn't know I lived in a place that no one has yet to adequately explain, so where do we really live? These are just ideas that control us when we give them power in our attempts to understand the world, when all we're hoping to do at the time is just adapt as seamlessly as possible. You're getting it now. When we're having a logical discussion on something, I'll be logical and to the point of what I best "know" but when it comes to discussing beliefs and actualities, its healthier to question the basis of everything to deconstruct what we're saying IS DEFINITELY the structure to something. The ebb and flow between deconstrucitivism, constructivism and being. @Shunyata Then here's a life vest that I've cut up in all the worst places! I've also thrown some weights your way seeing that's what you want! I'll tip all the hungry sharks from the fish bowl into the water with you as well! Their hunger is proportional to our attachment, the only way to escape them is silence in mind, heart and spirit not clinging to anything.
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@Preety_India Maybe we live in a block world and we're only momentarily out of it. Release the attachment to perspectivism perhaps as well? Maybe you should be an ant killer on footpaths in the busiest city streets while drinking alcohol and yelling obscenities, why would this be a bad life? If destiny was true in its absolute, and I'm not saying it is, it would thus logically be the perfect way to live.
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@Shunyata Why do I need to "know" anything? Question that.
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@Preety_India People think they'll become nihilistic, but isn't that just another dark spot to question? The mind will always revert back to something else, its what happens when you ask it anything. Close your eyes right now and ask your mind to create a picture of farm life, now ask it to create an scene of piercing light, now fire. Ask your mind to strengthen these images in a creative way, then a dull way. We're always communicating with our subconscious with the words we use so much that it's ridiculous we have any opinion at all given a new conversation with our subconscious will create a new abstract scene and otherwise to talk about.
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@Preety_India Exactly, we should always be questioning both dark and light places because the light could be the dark and the light the dark, mix them together, change them around, add some colour to our psycho-chemical cocktail and we achieve higher integration. For me, integration is at the very least the means, not absolutely certain about what the end is though, I just see myself being sucked into a blackhole.
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@Shunyata There's octopus' in oceans, some can blend in with their surroundings making them appear like the truth of their surroundings but in reality are just a place we don't want to question because of fear. Fear creates the thing to be fearful about, attack the fear in a nuanced way, a lot of the time the love will grow in a new way.
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@Shunyata In what ways do you think so? Or is it because you feel its something we shouldn't try to understand because it might destroy the illusion? Maybe it'll make the illusion even more powerful, even if the twin flames did it together? I've felt the twin flame thing, even do now, but does it mean I don't get it when I'm simply having fun trying to make sense of it?
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@Leo Gura @Preety_India The way we've associated confidence in the modern world is totally incongruent with reality because people have been brainwashed by so many false ideas. You never really or at least I never experienced that failure in confidence when I was 5-12 years old when I was just starting to become attracted to the opposite sex. I never worried about looks, money, career, or just something I had to offer the woman other than whether we liked one another. We've invented entire fictions that now govern the premise for an entire relationship with someone, and so many people think they have to run after those fictions in order to satisfy that illusory premise so we have just so many people that have lost touch with who they are down this route and simply feeling who the other person is as well via the same means. These fictions have created a whole host of various personality disorders, a pattern we scarcely try and address.
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So if a twin flame dies before meeting them does this mean you don't have a twin flame or they've just been reborn and you have to wait 18 years until they're legal as well as with supreme luck bump into them geographically on a massive planet of 7 billion? Why are twin flames often in the same city or the same country as the same person? How do twin flames exist in the context of racism? A spiritual idea seems incompatible with the biological idea. How does twin flames simply not just represent energetic compatibility based on say emotional and mental development they've achieved, in which case many people could be your twin flame? Why is a twin flame never really ugly? I'm not against the feeling of twin flames, I think its really invaluable to really feel that, but how is that not easy to confuse with the simple feeling of genuine deep love? When we're deeply in love, it feels like it was meant to be, so a concept like twin flames, let's say it never existed, I'd imagine it was invented by two people who really loved each other or by someone who really loved another but for whatever reason they're no longer together. Moreover, that this concept was likely invented pre-modern globalism, simply because when we're a part of a smaller psychological geography, of which we've only recently come to associate as the entire world, we have a much smaller reference frame over who we're going to be compatible with, so a twin flame would really be a twin flame in light of the smaller population of people that existed inside our social reference frame. Most people can only fit about 120 people in that social reference frame (again 7 billion + people so compare the numbers), and let's say you've got 60 males and 60 females that are in that mix of whom are all at least friends, what are the chances that at least one of those males aren't going to feel like "the one"? How many twin flames would we have if we were cognitively able to handle 7+ billion people (remember we can only handle 120 + we barely meet nearly 0.1% of the population of Earth)?
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There's also many different approaches to thinking about the idea of "career path", and there's really no problem in having confusion about the subject because its actually a complete delusional thing we've created in order to establish a society. So every person in order to arrive at what they authentically want or just what they're comfortable doing, either one because remember at least to me its a delusion to say its destiny when it was a complete fabrication to begin with, is to generate alternate pathways regarding the idea itself in order to build a neural map in their brain that they can more seamlessly interact with. For example, instead of just doing those simulations I noted above you can ask yourself questions that are more about your physical nature and then pairing things with that rather than simply saying "what have I enjoyed in the past?" as that kind of question is of course biased by the past: - However a question like - How would I feel comfortable using my body and mind a lot of the time? Or outside of time, in what ways do I like using my body and mind? => Enables you to make inferences from a more causal rather than effect based reference frame where you've already done the experiments, I mean you have twenty years of sampling here that should be enough unless you've always been doing something you don't like. Moreover, sometimes we might even have biases about an occupation that we may actually like doing if we did it because it suits how we like using our mind but because we have prejudices about the profession itself, we don't don't. Such prejudices are analogous to why people may not exercise even though they want to be in shape, they have psychological blocks. Maybe brainstorm an entire list. You can also operate from a present to future context. For example, "I like using my brain and body (if relevant, heck could be as simple as being a public speaker) in x way and I'd also like to extend and or protect those abilities in the future". This will be a good warmup for another brainstorm: Not only what occupations fit those preferences (and recommendation to do subsequent simulation here in the way as noted in previous comment) but what "occupations/roles/etc" could I even invent myself (which would equate to a new kind of job)? Remember that there's been many new roles that have either become more popular over the last ten years like consultants and gurus that was never the case before to YouTuber's (aka Leo), instagram models and more representing entirely new professions that random people would give you money for to continue (especially for YT - I'm not so sure how the instagram model thing works so much). People make such a big deal over this delusion and so its only natural that we'll have difficulty reasoning about it when we're not aware that its: (1) A delusion (2) We're meant to critically and creatively break down and remake the concept itself in order to really build a foundation upon which to think about such a question. And then of course, take future changes into consideration as well, which I'm sure you'll do, like Elon's AI taking over the world aka jobs kind of thing. In the future if you're a creative person, being a YouTuber will even though there's higher jobs than this that'll be replaced for example have much more job security than being a machine operator in a regular factory given the latter will be replaced by automatic AI stuff.
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So crazy haha, there's so many ways you could imagine yourself dying but this one just happened to make me laugh. So I'm imaging myself laying down on my bed asleep and anyhow I have a ceiling fan with sharp enough blades that they could do some damage if they were rotating fast enough and struck the right spot, and that's exactly what happened. Set at max speed during a hot summer's night, for whatever reason this one night the base supporting the entire frame that underpins the rotation mechanism of the blades falls and one of the blades pierces right through my skull. And its just a massive jamming thud that occurs with little reaction from myself due to instantaneous death. Takes about a week for people to figure out I'm dead, they knock on my door enough times that they decide to figure out a way to get in and they just walk into my bedroom and bam they see me there with a blade right through my skull. Haha. It's the existential shock of it that makes it amusing, one minute you're there peacefully integrating the days experiences, then dreaming perhaps you're having a lucid dream preparing for the next day and bam. Lights out and a few days later close persons get the shock of their life. This will be my last comment on this thread but yeah I'm learning a lot from this shadow work I'll continue to develop my patterns here to eventually build personal models on the subject as its an area in which I've really only touched the surface on.
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Oh I didn't watch either of them @Bando , I know her general direction though she doesn't give too many specifics. I don't see these people in particular ways per se, I just see her as a cool being sharing her self expression and nothing more than that. So many people make such a big deal out of other people its totally ridiculous to me. Cool chick to learn from about different things. I think its because subconsciously, these people are looking for an authority figure, so when they listen to her they give up their authority rather than just trying to integrate her content to the point it becomes their own personal practice - hence unrealistic expectations are built.
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Leading on from my previous post: I just imagined a serial killer killing me (because I tried imagining myself as a serial killer, didn't go too well, felt a puking sensation), WOW was that revealing. They cut me up limb from limb, through my limbs and my head out onto the grass like I was nothing, free for any wildlife to eat as it pleased, like right now I see a worm coming out of my eye ball weeks after birds have already pecked them both out! That's nature for you! It doesn't care if a serial killer took you out, it'll eat up the scraps of you regardless as to how you died!
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Yeah she does good content. I agree, for me as a synthesis: integration = truthful relationships with all of existence (truthful here being defined as, not tainted, held back, pure authenticity, spirit) and that is ones growing enlightenment in light of the dissolving ego with that ethos. For shadow work, maybe imagine yourself as a serial killer, a terrorist that's been brainwashed by the CIA to take out president Clinton (let's say Trump never won), putting a gun to your head and blowing your brains out, having your genitals feasted on by a giant spider that has your body paralysed so you can still see and feel everything, like the cob webs wrapping around your genitals and the slow pincers of the spider feasting on them along with laying eggs inside all the openings of your body including where its pierced your genitals. TIME FOR A TIME OUT KID GO SIT IN THAT CORNER OVER THERE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT LINGUISTIC SYMBOLS YOU JUST DREW!!!
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To add a visualisation experiment: The whole "visualize what you want" doesn't always work for me because sometimes all I'm seeing is a romantic interest (that I won't be seeing again for some months) and I can correlate that more with my state of affections which has primed my imagination more than it actually being an intrinsic want that is practical to serve as a life purpose. One thing that does though when it comes to estimating different life paths is if you have a good imagination, I would simply try on different life paths on for size in a number of different creative ways. Imagine what its like to be a doctor (something you've probably already done), but do so outside of your older motivations which might be related to getting social validation and approval, go to more the authentic emotions, then instead of attaching the positive emotions you may experience there with the identity "doctor", which is actually a very haphazard philosophical and psychological mistake most people do, instead seek to understand the causes of those emotions along with what potential positive future they may have for you in the future in relation to this life path or whatever life path and how they may serve those emotions. We often choose life paths because of some emotional experiences we get from them, by understanding the emotions, we can understand the path in the context of the emotions rather than the outer path itself, this will often teach us more about ourselves than the path itself in this explicit sense. Other than a doctor, imagine now being all various kinds of occupations from a monk to a rockstar to a racing car driver and more, whatever appeals to you. The next thing I'll encourage you to do though is try to do so outside the context of bias as much as possible so you can get into how it actually would likely rawly feel. See I highly trust my imagination because what I've learned about myself is that my imagination is scarcely different to the real thing a lot of the time, something which isn't popularised at the very least as being a normal thing but I know within everyone is the ability to improve it. Secondly I trust my imagination because I do just that, as I've wondered about my earlier days in my imagination I was often far more biased in my simulations because I wasn't as self aware when it came to understanding the influence of my subconscious mind which includes all the potential brainwashing and social conditioning that was present, so I've learned to not only reduce some of that but also be mindful enough of those influences that I'm more vigilant about the kind of emotional experiences I go through in my imagination during this kind of process. The reason why I state this as well is because I know many persons who have gone down certain paths thinking it was going to be amazing because society told them that was the case but later found out after their high test scores and long education and long hours at work that it was hardly what they thought it would be. The problem here which will I'll attempt to address is in the next paragraph is that they failed to accurately close the experiential gap between them and the occupation, instead, they relied on implicit assumptions installed in them by the social narratives that existed around the times in which they were influenced to take on that life path. A technique that elaborates on the ethos of this imperative is the following recent post I made about the experiential gap that exists between people when it comes to understanding one another, the described experiential gaps are analogous to the experiential gap that exists between our present experience and understanding accurately what it would be like to take on a certain life path. So when undertaking this technique, I cannot stress enough the importance of trying to remove as much bias while undertaking this thought experiment. I recommend using some control simulations, that is, simulations where you compare an imagined experience with a very similar autobiographical experience. If your imagined experience is very similar to your autobiographical experience it can be a gateway to fuelling the contrast you need to gauge at least on a feeling level how accurately you think your simulations are.
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Origins replied to Mindflow's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I wrote a slightly more extensive comment before but then accidentally hid it and now don't have enough incentive to retype it so I'll just say this, something to ponder for you. If I'm able to do the following while not having to be in a dream state, meaning right now I can build new worlds in my imagination fairly seamlessly while typing this comment, how do you distinguish between what's real and not real in the speculated astral plane? For me, I live in both worlds, the realisation that there's a purely imaginative component while also being open minded about alternate explanations that may partly explain these kinds of various phenomenological experiences outside the realm of them simply being a mental phenomenon. At this stage though the sound correlations I've personally derived have so far leaned me towards believing the former more than the latter. -
Just to follow up on my previous comment I've now just come up with the idea of thinking of the experiential gap as a creative tool that can be applied towards both oneself (all forms of self in the context of time - past, future, etc), another and literally all life. I've synthesised it into being encapsulated in the form of a 360 degree experiential gap ring. So right now I'm probably at about 20 degrees of its capability, but yeah, its amazing actually if you have this ability (which can be improved). Test it out on yourself not just others as I initially noted by whenever you experience any kind of negative stimulus, just imagine a clone of yourself for example experiencing that negative stimulus/experience and then try to bridge that experiential gap, you notice a completely fresh understanding of that experience emerge. My goal is to now maximise not just my knowledge of the 360 degree experiential gap but be able to reach its limits as much as possible at all times. Because it doesn't just have various qualitative reference frames it also has quantitative reference frames as well, like how many reference frames of the same qualitative one or number of qualitative frames in general. This is an advanced tool for anyone looking to further their self awareness and empathy in general. It's a little more complicated than regular empathy, something which I think scientists have still only barely understood at least as its reflected in the scientific literature.
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One of the underlying things here, and it relates to many different kinds of social conflicts and separations. Experiential gap. They cannot imagine where you are coming from, and maybe to an extent, you can't imagine where they're coming from. Think of the situation involving racism for example, racism exists simply because in the exact moment of racism the perpetrator is simply unable to imagine what it's like being the person of a different race. The same thing happens between the sexes or just anyone of any meaningful variation from social class to social status, etc. I recently a couple of comments ago made a response to "criticisms about Leo", not that most persons are capable of adequately doing so, how many people do you wonder have placed themselves in Leo's experience and truly contemplated his position? That's often the best strategy when we're experiencing that kind of conflict, if we notice that the other party isn't doing this, we should do it and strategise accordingly. Like if someone is being racist to me, I will mentally try to close that experiential gap and adapt accordingly relative to the best strategy I've discerned. The benefit this will give you is that it'll enable you to both be empathic and boundaried at the same time.
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For me it's the wrong question (maybe its because I'm a bit beyond that now). Think very deeply about this. Okay so you're alive, you've got this consciousness with x amount of capacity to compute the environment based on its present experiences of it (if those experiences are limited recommendation is to expand them - I won't make assumptions you could be 13 years old for all I know where you'e just broken out of Juvenile prison), now, what return on investment (ROI) do you want on this life? Everything you equate as "purpose" has ROI, even if it's totally selfless you're still getting something from that selflessness, whether its the acknowledgement that its right, true, honest, or whatever the justification happens to be. Your determined "purpose" will evolve overtime, what's most important to me is, is it authentic to you on as deep of a level as possible that you personally resonate with? It doesn't even need to feel meaningful, you could be a die hard nihilist, it just needs to be true to you. Think long term, heck run different thought experiments in your mind about your age. Let's say you've got 4 scenarios: 1 year left, 50 years left, 100 years left and 500 years left. With your answer being shared just with yourself, what kind of ideas do you get for this ROI? So yeah, it's just ROI. Other than that its mostly just people playing nonsense games within and between one another from politics to religion to culture expressed via at least one modality like social media technologies, or maybe you're one of the few that are just sitting all of that out on a mat meditating with the is-ness of existence. There's other options as well but I like that contrast, heck maybe you're a soldier that'll get blown to pieces who's parents from one culture will honour, mourn and celebrate him/her or from another culture you're ridiculed, shamed and defamed after your death because either maybe no one ever liked you or maybe you were captured and converted into something culture has termed as "terrorist". Pick your game, know the price. That's the essence.
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These kinds of people as well, their lack of awareness manifests in creepy ways. And what makes it even more creepy is they're totally unaware of it.
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It's just an evolutionary emotional-psychological algorithm playing out, very robotic. People relate to Leo like he's a person still rather than a being like everything else on this planet that's on a continuous developmental trajectory, for better or for worse. For "Leo", this name he's been granted in his life that he can change to whatever he wants, legally speaking, or without the legal paper work just in people speak, ideally for the better. This isn't going to stop. People simply aren't self aware enough to even contemplate being aware enough of the algorithm to influence their interactions in a positive way. I'm sure Leo already knows that, he's a smart dude. People have to seriously come to terms with the fact that there's a yin/yang to this life, there's the computer game deterministic aspect that you can choose to master to the best of your ability but that no matter what you do people are always going to have their involuntary responses relative to their capabilities, and then there's the quantum or even just unknowable realm that we're still working out and may never completely work out that may not be deterministic at all. It's not black and white. People are continuously going to go over and over and over in their minds and in their little groups and with their literal and figural megaphones about what is rude, not rude, etc, etc because collectively we're always unconsciously evolving that math based on bodily impressions ("I feel offended therefore I must [do this]...", "I feel empathy for x therefore I must [be right]..."). It evolves via projection in the mainstream not via cognition or some higher level of awareness. This is what creates social norms overtime. It's like a snake, you slap the snake its going to snap at you as that's what its programmed to do, it can't contemplate its moves and neither can most of these people. Maybe the slap was a good idea, but the snake isn't going to know that so its a bad idea, which is why I'm against parents spanking children as a side note. Most of them are all just playing out scripts in a film as bad actors, until they start being a director, looking at the script and wondering how it can be improved it's going no where, and in reality, it's going no where. The vast sum of people on the planet that can do this versus can't is totally disproportionate. On the subject of leadership though, for any leader on anything, good ones generally assign themselves as the ones responsible for surveying the environment as best as they can and adapting overtime relative to what they perceive as the best response. Leo's not perfect, none of us are but the more aware he is of the narratives playing out with peoples criticisms the more he'll be able to avoid being psychologically conditioned by them, because that's what they're trying to do on a subconscious level, while at the same time integrating enough useful voices to arrive at the line of best fit for his goals in the context of his leadership. Otherwise, Fred, yeah I can see Leo as a Fred if he ever thought about changing his name. Haha
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Origins replied to Inder's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
To add to my previous comments, encapsulates them all well: A personal realisation I just had is that I was never meant to be motivated solely by emotions or feelings nor thoughts per se other than the goal of the desired achievement. If you think about it, if there's an obstacle, often we rely on our motivational system relating to our emotions and feelings to drive us, but I've discovered that this reliance is an unnecessary dependence, at least in me, instead for what I experience is that there's a silent inner knowing I can utilise to move towards any goal I want independent of feeling and emotion. This gives me tremendous freedom now, to not be bound by feeling and emotion, while at the same time recognising the importance of fully experiencing those feelings and emotions in the process of the activity itself. This button that I've pressed on overlaps with the ability to see through nearly all mental obstacles as well, which makes sense because you're drawing from this seemingly empty yet full space of inner knowing. There will be still be pain of course in your endeavours, but because you're not reliant on the emotions and feelings to move you towards accomplishing an obstacle you also won't be as pressured away by feelings and emotions when stress accrues, instead of retreating, you sit inside the inner knowing, feeling everything within your being about the experience, learning everything you can about it not just cognitively, but emotionally and in a totally unconscious way as well allowing the natural processes of your being to transmute the experience. I learned this as I was laying down awake after sleep, re-experiencing an aspects of my autobiographical self inside what appeared to be a slightly traumatic memory with fears attached to that memory. What my body was informing me was that I hadn't fully emotionally processed this experience when it happened or afterwards, this is because it was during a time in which I was much less emotionally developed and so then that'll be the case for all of your memories prior to higher emotional development so you might have many different kinds of experiences want to come back up to be re-experienced but in a way that you've learned to emotionally process the experiences so that your body can transmute the energies it took in and release them naturally as quickly as they are ready to be released. During those moments of transmuting the experience I learned that there was a silence there that was allowing me to do all of this, outside of any emotion or thought. That's when it struck within me, that this would be an experiential understanding that I would now carry with me through all obstacles I faced. This ability though takes a lot of self awareness, however you'll also likely be able to develop self awareness further at the same time as trying to hone this. -
And as it concerns the spiritual path, it's an inner path. It doesn't have much to do with the outer world to me, most people that run off to monasteries, etc are probably just lacking in the areas I've shared. But anything I've said, take it with a grain of salt. Its your decision.
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For me, I don't really see any kind of emotional solace being found in your ruminations beyond any natural emotional intelligence you'll need to develop to ensure that you're aligned with your authentic goals. In saying that all I really suggest is you deciding this for yourself. So you've discovered you've developed interests in spirituality, that's great add it to the list of endeavours you'd like to explore further be it the case, but for me there's no hidden journey you're on here towards spirituality. Some may say, "Oh well maybe there's a hidden interest spirituality that you must follow and forfeit everything else in your conquest!", I would say on the other hand that you're best putting every message you've ever heard aside including this one, just simply checking in with your emotional self, learning about what lays in the subconscious and incrementally learning from your experiences there to help you discover what path you'd like to follow or continue to follow. The path of enlightenment has nothing to do with the outer world, and if anything on some level I think you simultaneously realise that while being still somewhat confused and perhaps as a defence to that dissonance your ego is now questioning your present educational preoccupations altogether. This is why I think its important for you to make some important emotional distinctions within yourself before you move forward, you'll be saving yourself many years if you learn to do this outside the influence of the social world including expectations from parents, friends, teachers and so on. Two more things for you to realise is that one educational badges and any congratulations there is pure illusion, like any badges of social congratulations, but the problem there is that we've been subconsciously conditioned to be motivated by these things hence why this dissonance around this self questioning stage is global and confusing, because then we have to discover an order within ourselves that allows us to still be motivated outside the social imperative. You'll need to learn to separate what others want to reward you with for your accomplishments as that's simply how they're programmed so best to just leave them be and two, realising that you still need to be driven by your own inner compass about what truly rewards you on an internal level. So it seems like there's a reshaping of internal and external rewards occurring here with you now moving towards the inner landscape more to find meaning in the outer landscape, that's good, but keep that information private towards people that aren't going to be completely respectful of any experiences you're going through here. And two, you'll need to start building models for yourself about how we can be swayed one way versus another based on the informational inputs we get like this message I'm sharing. I'm sure that reading all those spiritual books have had a big influence on the dissonance you're experiencing because they would have created all kinds of imaginings of life outside your present reference frame, which is good and healthy, but you'll need to learn to balance that with real life. You'll learn overtime to become increasingly more savvy when it comes to understanding how imagining various alternatives about life can drive us to feel discontent about our present position but often what needs to be resolved first and foremost is the internal compass. Sometimes the internal compass can easily be driven astray by our imagination when its not firmly planted in the ground, the ground here being our well developed emotional intelligence, values, goals and so on. If you'd like any resources on developing emotional intelligence let me know. No bodies ever "too young" per se when it comes to major life decisions in a career sense, at least theoretically not statistically, what matters is their psychological and emotional development. You CLEARLY need to start to focus on being clear in yourself about discovering YOUR authentic wants and needs, this is related to psychological and emotional development. Your psychology right now is saying to yourself "hey I'm missing something but I'm not quite sure what it is", well that's also your emotions saying "hey I'm not quite sure I'm still motivated in the same way as I used to be but are you listening to me?". So start listening inside without thought and start discerning with intuition and then follow it up with critical thinking about the real world, put the critical thinking aside while you're getting in tune with yourself though.
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On an unrelate note, based on the last stage of learning I noted (and that's just my contention perhaps I'm wrong), I don't really see it as self actualisation anymore, and its because I haven't really perceived a self for sometime and in the actualisation part, I think its a bit technically incorrect though while at the same time a term that's totally more relatable to the general populace. Technically incorrect because when seen through the lens of existence, the biological lifespan and the subjective experience simultaneously in the end its just a recursive loop with the DNA structure and our consciousness is the thing that constantly feeds and mediates that function through our self aware experience. So for me I just see it as DNA Mastery now (that is, self actualisation), there's no self here exploring anything for me so you know, I just gotta call my experience as I see it. And DNA Mastery is symbolic of that whole learning process which is an ongoing feedback loop with existence. DNA just paints the picture of directionality rather than necessarily being a descriptor of what consciousness is or what its experience is like of course, its important that this point isn't confused with being to physicalist, after all its not like the term self actualisation describes a more accurate picture or any picture there anyhow in relation to the nature of consciousness in the context of the reality we feel intimately bonded with, its just a word that points and for me DNA Mastery points a little sharper while at the same time sort of disowning and moving on beyond the incorrect perceptions I previously had about those two words individually and when put together. It also helps me bind my perceptions to an inner loop as opposed to me projecting too much onto the external that I'm only supposing I know anything about.