Origins

Freedom of speech is a great bumper sticker for a sucker on the back of a ute driving to America's demise.

So fascinating observing parasitical behaviour as well, not judgementally, just the flame to the spaceship of curiosity kind of way. Right now for example its midnight and anyhow this ute rolls up to collect wood that I've left out on the nature strip, which is typical to do in our neighbourhood and this guy and others like him obviously know that. The point being made here is that all the ones I've experienced do it really late at night, its really intriguing, as if to say that they're embarrassed for the action itself that they don't want to do it during the day or during a time in which someones likely to come out and see them do it. There are all sorts of hidden parasitical activities like these from society to society, a darker unknown survival element that people aren't comfortable admitting even admitting to themselves as it sits for most in the shadow side of their personality structure. If you can view this more from a biological sense that applies to all living creatures in various ways it becomes an even more interesting contemplation rather than just a human activity and especially when its not rigidly confined to simply viewing it as an activity that should be looked down upon. Funny night time street nature strip grabbing haha!

@Tim R You're coming at it from an emotional stand point I'm coming at it from a factual stand point. That's where I see the difference haha. Which means its possible to "love your parasite" if you will, sometimes I don't always immediately smack mosquitos for example, or always find the time to get rid of flies from a certain area if its not required, I let them live out their full 7 days without having to feel my wrath. My reaperness is so great I can take out the dinosaurs so BEWARE! Some say they might never have existed, so in that sense we have parasitical theories as Richard Dawkin memes which feed on the life force of people, their beliefs and the nonsense indoctrination others have to witness and put up with when they encounter them!

@Carl-Richard Yes, as you've so expertly retorted continuously with the same statement as if to ironically not avoid the same mistake you claim I'm making. It isn't my fault the man I'm teaching to read a dictionary does not understand the words, nor even the word "nothing" which he continuously proclaims "says nothing". Thank you for introducing me to your splendid capability when it comes to genuinely trying to ask specific questions in order to understand what it is I was indeed attempting to say as I neatly relayed my words from somewhere close to the centre of my skull to my finger tips and onto this screen after clicking the submit reply button. Well done!

@Tim R I'm not going to get into an argument about it haha. Please, there's really no need haha. But just to make my point out of pure logic here are perfect examples: adopted babies women that are kidnapped forced to be mothers of their own children or another's child the fact that plenty of women kill their children is evidence that there often isn't always this "two way symbiotic relationship" that you speak of It's really fruitless arguing with me my logic is too good . I'm here just for discovery based conversation. There's also this just for curiosity. But yeah let's not drag that point on please haha, its good for humour if anything. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/3/140328-sloth-bear-zoo-infanticide-chimps-bonobos-animals/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide_(zoology) And to its opposite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriphagy

@Leo Gura All babies are parasites, its a part of the maturation process until an organism establishes higher agency, until then it has to resort to various kinds of dependency to compensatory strategies. Humans are a good example of this and even SD can be thought of in this way analogously speaking, we've had to feed off the land for centuries, knowing no other reality, and now we're slowly moving to growing both our own organs and meat in a lab.

@Gesundheit You've gotta simultaneously lock and unlock things relative to both collective and individual perception in order to move forward with discussion. One path aids communication between others and the other aids communication with oneself and what is both a bridge and doorway from perception to reality. The assignment of reality is for communication, the doubt on reality altogether is for individual metamorphosis.

@QandC We live in a cause and effect model of reality where our perception is governed by a dynamic of truth-hood versus falseness where the biology associates the former with positive and the latter with negative, so these narratives are perfectly normal in light of the fact that the latter is more likely to bring about many various kinds of narratives supported by but not limited to neuroticism, fear, anxiety, lack of plasticity but even more so sometimes, intersubjective empathy, which is a very fascinating case and doesn't seem to be completely absent in this one. The goal should just be to integrate these as maturely as possible. Reality is all about integration, we can't fathom reality or the category reality without first integrating it and within that category, things we associate as true and discernment from things we consider false. There's zero wrong with what he's doing, it is true relative to his present state of consciousness and there's probably a lot to learn from it, it all just depends on how much experience you have with modelling this kind of phenomena. In short, if your channel gets quite a following expect others to at the very least probe a little more closely and sometimes if they see it as viable to them, piggy-back off the potential success they may perceive from that endeavour.

@Fran11 No problem, I'm not a follower of anyone. It hasn't been justified that perception is existence, rather I'd argue its simply relative existence. Perception has dimensions, dimensions have limitations, its within the scope of those limitations that existence can be termed from that reference frame. If you remove 99% of my intelligence, I might very well be perceiving existence but its certainly not something to have a party over. Please for the sake of discussion avoid quoting Leo's videos in discussion just so we can stick to what's been stated and can be reviewed very easily without having to refer to certain videos. Any point that needs to be made can be made with these symbols we're creating here.

@Carl-Richard If we could keep this to the discussion of the actual thread that'd be great, inclusive of my comments that you would like to address otherwise I will just ignore future correspondence out of practicality. Best

@RendHeaven @Carl-Richard Sorry I'm terrible at taking things "down", it just takes more energy for me is all I'm sure you would understand. Like if I'm to take on the effort of taking things down I wouldn't know where and what to focus on so I might just do it with everything or not scrub in the right place so it would mean I'd end up cleaning the wrong room in the house or not in the right way. I don't at all mean to be coming across as pretentious, you're free to perceive me in which ever way you like though, pure freedom there, in saying that I'm more than willing to discuss those specific forms as you've stated Carl-Richard but it would be more constructive if that specificity was confined to talking about what part of what I said, very precisely, is something you'd like me to elaborate on and we can go from there. It's all cool here, like I'm a very open minded person I'm not going to get angry at you or put you down or anything, I'll aim to be of service to the discussion where I can. I have no need to "be anything" in this conversation or "be perceived in anyway". Best

@Carl-Richard Well, if you're familiar with the general meaning of these terms that's when you're able to combine them into an abstraction of coherence, if not, we can define them together one at a time if you like. We can proceed cautiously and by the end, have a complete essay that is to the heights of at a bare minimum, your abstract capacities . When a man sees rain for the first time, he does not need to look at the rain and say, "you're not telling me anything useful here", in order to take something away from what the person is doing. My intuition is saying you don't have the patience to go into the depth we'd need to go to, but I'm down for it if you are, you'd be the first person in the history of my experience on the internet, so let's see how you go eh?

@Carl-Richard Interesting, because you quoted a whole piece of text in which I emphasised the importance of a phenomenon in the context of development here. If you'd like me to further elaborate on the relationship between capacity and anything analogous to what spiral dynamics attempts to capture in relation to stage theory of consciousness just let me know .

@Fran11 Cool. Yeah like I said it depends on how you're interpreting the term model. I see it both from a literal and more formal sense it seems you may only be referring to its formal sense. To me unless you can correct me there's no differentiation between the perception of existence and the literal modelling of said existence relative to the limitations of that perception. Eyes, ears, touch, etc, series of layers before we have any kind of graphics sound/visual/etc. The graphical interface is our survival bias because, relative to the best theory so far, it was only engineered to aid the survival of the body. Maybe there's other useful interpretations there if you have any.

@Fran11 Can you give an example of where mysticism isn't creating a mental model? We may just be interpreting this a little differently, but in every moment for example, the brain is creating a model of itself in order to orient itself in existence, the latter is an example of a theory of mind the brain has about itself. And you're not talking to a materialist here by the way, I'm a nothing. Just making sense of things as reasonably as possible. On a personal front I'm not really fond of mystics outside of learning from them, this is because relative to the definition to define oneself as a mystic is to say that you're not at all suspicious of your own perceptions. There have been already enumerable well documented case studies now in relation to how easily the brain is fooled by belief, but by many mystics their own beliefs are considered absolutely true and you're a materialist if you don't believe them. The openness they want you to have is the openness they don't want to demonstrate ironically. It's very reasonable though to have the same insights as a mystic but not associate yourself as a mystic, I could be one of those and you wouldn't know nor would I find it important for you to know so.

Psychology is a perfectly adequate subject, its really only some of the people in the field and the culture therein which cause us to suffer hailstorms of false interpretations of reality. So it's better to talk about people that try to do psychology and the people within the field specifically more than it is to talk about psychology itself as a deceptive field - models point to people after-all. This is how we define psychology that is good versus psychology that is bad. Psychology is no different to any other industry, let's take the building industry, the building industry may be bad but building in itself when done right is a perfectly adequate thing when it comes to creating enclosed spaces. Placing the object, in this case the thing that's being touted as the psychological phenomenon of study, outside the main category here, psychology itself, including the entities that create said relation, people, helps in differentiating how the blame pie eating contest should really be baked. Category > Relation > Object > Relation > People is where folk in psychology have gone wrong. Where some of their predecessors have done right as stated: People > Relation > Object > Relation > Category (the field of psychology being a legitimate field)

Capacity in itself separate to the above is an extremely abstract point that most people don't think about enough, let alone understand adequately, our culture certainly doesn't. Imagine if you were born physically disabled, how would that help you move up the spiral? Imagine if you were born mentally disabled, how would that help you move up the spiral? But it goes deeper and is more nuanced than this. You'd need to meditate on the idea of capacity in the context of a human and consciousness growth for several hours (perhaps several months) before you really got the abstraction, its not as straight forward as the brain initially connects.

Growth really waits for no one, moreover its relative to the actual work and kind of work someone is doing within each stage [ although I don't subscribe to the related stage theory and believe something needs to be created that is from the context of the consciousness and any environment not just consciousness and this environment - that's an abstract point to think about for anyone serious ] , someone could be in the same stage for the rest of their life if their consciousness isn't integrating the contents of reality. Integration is one of the key things that lead to growth and for various reasons some are better at that than others. It's even possible someone could advance through all of the "stages" in one whole year, again it depends on capacity + tools.

How can I be more aware right now?

You might be aware of the darkness but you may not truly know that it is your only (nothingness within, ironically, felt being) and final resting place (death).

Feel into it, be aware of it, release it. Rinse and repeat, no thought chatter needed.

People's ego's wouldn't be able to handle Kaye becoming president at the moment, this much is obvious. For the time being they're stuck in their shared fantasy about the stories they've invented about the other candidates. Trump ironically, believe it or not, has way more credibility than Biden. List just one significant achievement of Biden if that's the case, or just one speech where he's actually being authentic. If you're being truly genuine, I'll watch said video, which needs to be recent, and I'll analyse it accordingly. I'm very good at analysing micro-expressions. You have to be objective. You have to think long range. You have to think of not just the presidency but how it will affect multiple networks. Ironically, West, to me, after "seeing the forest through the trees" as you put it, intersectionally places better than any of the other candidates as it concerns generating positive change for the long term, so beyond the presidency, that's even if it goes badly as well.

@Apparition of Jack That remains to be seen, what you're bought into is the marketing. That's exactly how they've advertised Biden in order to contrast the chaotic anarchy they superimpose on the cultures image of Trump. There's super layers occurring above what they say they believe in, its called what they want you to believe because that's what they believe will give them the greatest chance of winning. - as per above - Kanye --> Sanders --> Trump in that order

@Apparition of Jack 2020 - 1986. That gives Biden over 30 years to develop increasingly worse kinds of psycho-biological conditioning.

@28 cm unbuffed Your awareness has dimensions you can scarcely imagine, myself included. Those glimpses of greater dimensionality you experience in relation to your perception, chase those, they will enlighten your experience and broaden your associative horizon. All minds are echo chambers and our associative horizon is what echo's.