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Origins replied to from chaos into self's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I'd like to give a less than obvious answer just for the sake of doing so: An invention. Context: Meaning that thought is there to invent mental/physical phenomena that was not there before, even in the simple exchange of ideas, to do so with unique prosody and van gogh flair that gets recognised by the public post our Orwellian death (in light of potential New World Order arising before as well as outliving the end of our existence) gives life a little more Tesla zest. In saying that here's some preliminary work I've been doing on my death ray, so far it only works on racist mexicans born half African American and a quarter Irish. In saying that my goal just as an experiment for this whole week (now into Monday where I am) is to only focus on thought in the context of invention to change my baseline perception of what I believe to be possible regarding thought, because after all, perhaps under the right past conditions we'd instead be enjoying a culture in this present time in history that only thought from the lens of invention over tradition. -
No problem! As for your motivations towards philosophy, well they're your emotions so absolutely! Haha. Can you elaborate on your use of "diachronical" for this context? If what you're saying is that reason can be a sensation of various kinds absolutely I agree, in fact the more it is a sense close to feeling and emotion is probably not only contributive to your intellectual drive but also indicative of higher emotional intelligence, at least an aspect thereto. Moreover, as per the specifics of said sensation now that I think of it I believe its varied and an under-appreciated nuance that only those who spend long enough contemplating a subject actually experience. In fact for me only right now as a consequence of reading your post have I been able to spot that tree in the woods so to speak after looking down with the same birds eye view this whole time, so thank you for posting. Of course, I may have misinterpreted your use but regardless simply contemplating both synchrony and diachrony in the context of the aesthetics of reason has enabled me to make that new connection, so appreciation.
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@Reciprocality Reason isn't a something. This is the mistake of philosophy. It thinks of abstract categories like reason as real objects, it's total nonsense. You've got some neurons firing in your prefronal cortex, figuratively speaking (because there's more than just the PFC involved of course, moreover it also depends on many other factors like how your brain has matured which determine the manner in which "reason" as it looks manifests in your brain). Again reason is not a thing, we have to get that out of our thinking, reason is merely a byproduct of brains trying to discriminate and synthesise perceptions in their awareness, perceptually or purely imaginary. So as it concerns the subject of emotions, do you think your brain experiences emotions? It does not. Our whole body experiences emotions but only our brain has a prefrontal cortex. This isn't a subject to think about in a linear way because we're dealing with our biologies, which are relational and therefore geometrical. You cannot philosophise about emotions beyond playful abstractions, they have a place value and things that exist relative to that place value, but that's it. Philosophers have evolved from trying to be biologists, neurologists and psychologists these days because we now have subjects like biology, psychology and neurology. But philosophy has a place there, again, playful abstraction to get us thinking in unique ways about seemingly trivial questions. I liked your post though, its good to see intelligent thought otherwise hello from Australia!
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@Hsinav The only advice I can give you is to work on becoming a better parent. You should have simulated these kinds of scenarios before they happened, because after you "get advice regarding Fortnite" then another problem will emerge and then another and so on and so fourth, how are you going to be a good role model if you're not the kind of parent that's teaching your own child to plan in advance by setting the example of doing so for your child (while giving them free will in as much as they're capable of responsibly expressing it)? To be truly a good parent, you should have resolved this at least a year in advance, you have to admit to yourself that you've made some mistakes here. My brothers and sisters are parents, they know I think they're bad parents and I think that way because they are. In truth they're just average, but if you truly love your child you don't want to be just average, and to be honest most parents do not truly love their children even though they say they do, in fact they're very myopic, biased and selfish people. Most of them are parents out of ego. Parenting is done in advance, not on the run like most do. I'm blunt because you're a parent so you have to make decisions right now not later and you're here to get solid advice, not stuff that is just looking to people please. My best advice in saying that is forget Fornite for a moment, take a few days off to really contemplate your child's future by brainstorming as many future problems and decision intersections (i.e. whether to play Fortnite or not) and then working bit by bit to develop intelligent narratives that are going to help you solve those problems before they happen. Meaning as an example, you should have posed this question 12 months ago to the forum, your friends and many other places before the possibility came up. You should already know kids are highly brainwashed towards wanting to play video games so you should have anticipated at the very least the genre of potential game they may want to play and then think through how you will negotiate that, not only games but also films, places they may go, people they may hang out with, music they may listen to and so on and so fourth. What active roles are you playing in your child's life where say in 20 years time your child can look back and say "Shucks wow, I really learned so much from my dad he taught me so much! I was a bit of a rat bag sometimes but he really handled me well, he studied up on the best parenting techniques of the time, he really got to know me as a person and he really did his empathic darndest to guide me in the best way he could"? I'm only potentially planning on being a parent in the future for example and I'm already prepping years before I even might have a child. This should be the norm but it's like talking about living on Mars for most people and even for those that are serious about having children. Get cracking and all the best!
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@abrakamowse That's an easy way to push the problems of US politics under the rug. One major thing the US is yet to learn in so, so many ways from the entertainment industry to politics to business is that the end does not justify the means. They're as a whole a very short term focused country. Most countries are but the US in particular is noteworthy in light of how its relative prosperity contrasts its cultural merit for long term human civilisation.
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You gotta learn to run simulations. That's all that films teach, what simulations you haven't run and learned from yet. Today I was murdered by a librarian for example, taught me to be more careful around libraries. Just because they look cute with glasses and speak with a polite innocent tone doesn't mean they don't spend all their time reading about anatomy and murder mysteries to cover up their tracks.
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@Barbara On such a big decision I'd literally meditate with whatever best method you had and wouldn't stop meditating until my intuition informed me what to do. Prior to meditation I'd prime myself on all of my important experiences there and potential options outside of that then just sit there with the meditation method and trust that my subconscious is going to reveal the answer to me by the end of the meditation session (which could be as long as a few seconds to 10+ hours).
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Australian's love Biden haha - check comments section.
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Origins replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@modmyth From my perspective what I see you're doing is patterning and re-patterning the patterns created by consciousness in its observations of experience and as a consequence to that defining the terms and conditions by which you live life while honing your intuition through that holistic process. It's sincerely a really difficult thing to do, it'll only make you more and more open minded, other than that what it can also do is sometimes create needless dissonance if you're noticing logical inconsistencies in yourself, in these situations I'd learn to trust your intuition at the cost of somebody else, especially when you're likely spending far more time than most when it comes to honing your abilities here. -
Origins replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura Has nothing to do with cleverness and everything to do with stating an opinion and then backing it up with more than Trump evidence. But when in doubt, let's just use Biden's puppets tactics to get YT channels like TYT on the Democrat's side to control the intersubjective narrative not just on potential voting fraud (TYT hate Trump), but on our entire view of consciousness, regardless as to whether or not we've actually created anything of intellectual value that corroborates our perceptions on said view. The only thing comparable to an infinite imagination I see is the seemingly infinite amount of ways people try to control other peoples perceptions on things rather than just speaking to the truth of what something actually is from sound principles that have been agreed upon, of which one single cohesive intellectual view on consciousness can be ascertained, even if there's disagreements in the footnotes at least you're getting somewhere. An infinite amount of views allows for tactics that allow one to obscure, confuse and distort to creep in just as they do in politics and just is what happens in discussions where there's no agreed upon standards to commit to discovering and sharing the truth on something such as with conspiracy theories, of which, infinite imagination and infinite consciousness stands on no greater intellectual ground. If you fought your own stances on subjects just as hard as you fought views on conspiracy theories I imagine conversing with you on your own beliefs would be far more intellectually progressive and useful of ones time. -
Origins replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura That's a statement with no evidence, just belief and type so far. This is what I mean Leo, it doesn't get anywhere but something in your mind about the reality you're perceiving. You'd need to run tests to see if I had any idea about consciousness rather than just stating it, just like Trump has to prove there was corruption involved in the presidential voting 'scandal' as he's trying to convince others of, he can't just state it. In our relations with others, to have effective relationships we have to prove things to one another so that we can respect each others minds, so that we know that there's a translation between what someone says and what they can create in reality rather than what they just think they can create. -
Origins replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura Imagination is merely a tool and I've encountered no one to date that has been able to reveal otherwise (though happy for literally anyone here to provide evidence to the contrary). My intuition is informing me that in order to bring order to your perception of the difference between imagination and sense reality you've simply labelled everything as not just imagination, but infinite imagination, rather than simply our brains creating a simulation of reality through sense perception that we generate imagination about. Imagination is merely a byproduct, a tool, but it has absolutely nothing to do with reality whatsoever, thus infinite imagination has nothing to do with reality. Reality has everything to do with reality and that's all there really is, how we interpret reality is merely a consequence of how we've been constructed by the forces of reality. No matter how much you want to be an alien Leo, you'll never become one. Alien means foreignness, so you can play pretend but you'll only ever be yourself as reality intended and regardless as to what changes you make in your life, technologically, biologically or otherwise. If someone wants to make a case for infinite imagination they can, but they ought to make that case rather than just say it. All you've demonstrated to date is imagination about imagination, that gets us as far as you've described it but what you've said on the topic has hardly reflected something that's infinite let alone something that's even imaginative at all. I don't mean disrespect I just mean to be honest and blunt in my approach so there's no confusion about my own perspective, relative to what would be infinite imagination, you've demonstrated zero imagination. And its not like I'd put myself in a different category either nor anyone for that matter but imagination is a capacity with constraints that can be tested. Perceptions are created as a consequence of comparison and contrast, thus infinite imagination must have a scale that can be contrasted and measured against some limit of imagination (i.e. from the number of things that can be imagined at any point in time to the graphics and creativity of said imagination). So your statements to me have zero credibility. I want your statements to have credibility but I can't just imagine that into existence without fooling myself though I'm more than willing to be convinced as easily as I know I'm typing this comment right now. This comment has nothing to do with endorsing a materialistic view of reality either, I don't at all believe in materialism but I believe even less in infinite imagination as a viable way of interacting with reality as it produces many, many splits in consciousness where people are thinking one way in reality but really acting in a completely other way - let's see how infinite imagination helps you survive in this situation for example or having to work as a farmer for a whole year waking up at 3AM finishing at 6-7pm every day - This Man Survived Over 2 Months Lost At Sea | 76 Days Adrift | I Shouldn't Be Alive S4 EP6 | Wonder. The goal should be integration between physical experimentation and what we think and imagine, not merely being advocates of what we think and imagine outside the context of what we can experiment on unless there is reasonable argumentation to believe so, argumentation of which you have yet to provide, and I've watched your video on infinite consciousness, its really not that good. I have to be honest. It's better than any video I've seen on the subject, that has to be brought under the light in my expression here, but as an argument that stands by itself there isn't anything you've stated there that is at all very interesting, novel or persuasive. -
Understand that there is no such thing as belief, being merely operates according to what one has experienced and is experiencing. Further, we create the term to point to a place that for the most part we don't clearly define so although we're pointing in the right direction most people aren't given the tools to traverse the Amazon rainforest of their mind. Great so I know its the Amazon rainforest (belief) and thank you for telling me how to get here but that tells me nothing about how to handle an anaconda belief that's slowly constricting my blood supply, or a crocodile belief that's about to snap at me as I try to take a calm walk and drink at the creek as a buffalo. We created our boundaries through our interactions with the world and these boundaries that are synaptically encoded are what we term beliefs, that's all they are, simple heuristical primitive encodings, nothing more special even if they can make us feel that way. Belief is merely an internal psychological boundary, sometimes people create these boundaries (beliefs) to help them overcome other internal boundaries (beliefs) and perceived external boundaries. If you understand belief as merely an encoded aesthetic experience in the context of self efficacy, you'll be able to detach more easily from those aesthetic experiences that are neither aesthetic nor aid your self efficacy. Let's not get into the object of no self right now, its just a psychological term haha. Awareness in this situation is the juxtaposition to any limiting aesthetic experience that one finds it difficult to release themselves from. One needs to identify, with awareness, the way in which their body is interacting with this experience of belief though, for example are they holding onto more than they need to? (going back to beliefs that constrict us like an anaconda when we're not even aware of it - plus I've never literally tried it though if you were to I'm sure tying those hot coals to the flesh of the anaconda would work when it comes to have it release its grip!) As sometimes we're holding onto psychological hot coals (that is beliefs we ought to let go of) without the brain receiving the sensation to drop them. I would continue with these kinds of introspective questions to paint out the geometry of the belief relative to simply being an effortless perhaps even boundaryless state of awareness Beliefs have time encodings as well, I mean a belief can be long term and short term, whatever we're experiencing in any one moment for example is a situation in which we may be leaning into some beliefs over others without realising, as it concerns pulling away and letting go, maybe you might be able to ask yourself, what beliefs can I lean away from in this moment? Even just as an experiment to feel how belief itself is a literal experience of being you're going through, that beliefs can shift and change in a split second. Even to further the Amazon analogy, where am I an anaconda on a belief where I'm needlessly constricting and should instead unravel from my prey, that is this belief, and instead calmly flow into the unknown to discover something new, and so on and so fourth with many other ways you can interpret that from the lens of an anaconda to various other kinds of animals from crocodiles to buffalo to hawks in the sky.
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@Gesundheit nah. This situation doesn't deserve my humour. This will be my last message as a response to @ now. I'll only be making comments to threads, I'll no longer be able to receive notifications so I'll have no idea what others are saying about my posts good or bad haha. There's people of various kinds on this forum with very little ability to personally regulate who you want to talk to and you don't want to talk to. In real life I'd have a zero tolerance policy for people exhibiting the behaviour that Keyhole is so my only way of regulating that because I can't completely block them from seeing what content I produce and so I can avoid seeing their messages I'll just remove all notifications altogether outside of private messages.
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@Gesundheit Zero fun other than in my mind. I'm giving @Keyhole a chance though, let's see how they process this situation as openly as possible, which means bringing all the evidence to light rather than making claim after claim which means nothing by itself. They seem to implicitly claim openness, so let's see just how open they really are.
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Ever heard of personal boundaries @Keyhole, yeah I'd look into that. Same with projection. Please if we're going to talk this through let's keep this to one thread. I'm giving you a chance though to make your case so we can clear this up once and for all, I want the best for both of us in this situation. Let's bring the evidence to light.
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Okay @Keyhole let's say that what you're saying is true, and I'll entertain that possibility, can you demonstrate any evidence to support your claims? That way we can check story with reality and see how much they pair. That will help your process here. I'll approach this as openly as possible, but please if you're not willing to demonstrate said evidence what is your purpose here exactly other than to do what you claim, gaslight via what seems like projection. My evidence so far speaks for itself, its not really projection if you have evidence that you could share though is it?
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Yes, a devilish predator @Keyhole. Notice how you're actually the one gaslighting me the whole way through here? Do you see that? Like I said. Projection.
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@Leo Gura is it possible to create a setting where Keyhole can no longer see my posts and vice versa on a permanent level (like no ability to access either)? That would make this process sooooooo much easier. Please do something about this though. And Keyhole stop this. Look into yourself. Enough with the projection.
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This (what you're demonstrating @Keyhole) is a pattern in human behaviour that I didn't realise is much more widespread. Keyhole its okay, I'm not angry at you. I mean, its annoying of course but I understand. Feel free to express what you wish. I assure you though, I have no interest nor have ever had any interest in your journal entries. @Leo Gura @Natasha if you could please confirm Keyhole on these claims regarding gaslighting of particular persons it would be appreciated so that we can clear this up right away (I've never gaslighted anyone here, I'm straight forward and honest and seek communication as candidly and authentically as possible), and of course, talking to Keyhole about claims of getting my improvisational inspiration from reading their entries which to this date I still have not read. Otherwise I have no doubt you'll eventually get bored and move onto the next person Keyhole. In saying that mods, I would have thought that regulating the kind of behaviour Keyhole is demonstrating would have been the thing to do, at the very least private messaging them to talk with them about their experiences so that they're not harassing commenters on the forum. Again, I'm not angry at you Keyhole. But it is a problem. It's not healthy for you. And its not healthy for the forum. I can take it though perfectly fine. I'll probably get bored feeding your attention seeking as well. And that isn't to say attention seeking is bad, we all need attention of course, but the healthy thing to do is to understand our own needs and figure out how we can get those needs met in a healthy way rather than ignoring them say, and having that turning into projection in your interactions with others.
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@Leo Gura @Natasha et. al this is stalking behaviour by Keyhole. No need to to anything about it now but I've already informed them that they've been blocked. Stories are improvisational and just for fun, no idea what Keyhole is talking about and I'm certain Keyhole has zero chance at confirming their claims, if need be please press them to do so. I don't want any part of it though this is a clear waste of my time and your time by Keyhole, turning something I'm doing just out of fun into something that's all about them even though I've never really even noticed Keyhole on the forum let alone ever talk to them.
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You've now been blocked @Keyhole. Not offended haha, just annoyingly weird and well yeah, I've got better things to do with my time. I've only ever visited the journal section once and that was over a month ago now. Obviously you've just been triggered by something I've said but that's your responsibility to take care of. Best there, and probably best not to derail this thread mods hopefully can handle Keyhole here if they're paying attention, I'm not going to bug them about it though.
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For me you don't try to get through to anyone. Sure there's persuasion, but that's it. It's either happening or not happening. Spend time in the happening, you'll be happier for it as well, spending too much time on persuasion even if you're effective, like a politician, a part of you will die. Don't put what works in the world, which is a lot, in prison in order to spend time trying to break things out of prison that you'll never likely win any appeals on in court and even if you do, maybe only a little parole, slightly shorter sentence, but there's always that permanent record underneath the surface of what you're interacting with because it never came along by itself without any persuasion whatsoever.
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@Keyhole Good joke (in relation to me using journal entries - please cite just one if you're serious haha of which I doubt - I improvise my stories all on the fly, and its for fun I hope it encourages others to explore their imagination here as well). As for having an opinion on actual abuse by other forum members, I have no interest expending energy there beyond understanding the lower regions of the brain and setting boundaries where I need to.
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Short story time (Enjoy @Raze hopefully something to learn from here) Imagine you're an alien observing the social activities of humans from a spaceship just outside of Earth. You notice all of the various kinds of intelligence that each type of demographic has about their own sex versus the opposite sex and everything in between, some have very primitive views, some increasingly more complex, some have have strict dichotomies, others have nuanced landscapes. You watch this all unfold inside your binoculars of time, this certain pair of binoculars allow you to not only zoom in as far as you want but to also replay social events as you please as well as go backwards and forwards in time. This is because time does not exist from the perspective that your species experiences existence, describing its dimensions is not fit for linguistic description due to its hyper nuanced structure that is beyond language. Inspecting the various sexes you see from the very beginning of human civilisation right up to this point how from a young age every adolescent wondered about their sexual preference and how to bridge the distance between their affections and receiving affection back. "These humans" you'd say "They perceive each other as images on their lenses, this activates parts of their brain which then releases hormones to promote arousal which is potentially followed by oxytocin to promote courtship and even a possible relationship between each other." "They don't know they're just images on their lenses, its very intriguing. They're not aware of the inner game that's being played inside their biology about the other sex, all that concerns them, quite abruptly, is how to quench this thirst that is now aching inside of them that their biology is trying to get them to fulfil." You'd ponder about the complex interplay between chemical actions and stories that would be created to justify the chemical feelings and you'd sit for years on end on [which to you is experienced as mere microseconds due to the different experience of time ] your hyper advanced reclining chair wondering about how humans managed to confuse the narratives they created themselves and the narratives that were spread between each other about one another. This you'd explain as the reason why various groups about the sexes, like feminism and MGTOW were created, the inability to properly discriminate between inner and outer narratives, chemical precursors and the narratives that were consequentially invented in the brain. After compartmentalising all of your data, you call the mothership and say that you've uncovered everything there is to know about human social relationships and now you know how to seduce a female woman you now plan on abducting from Earth in your spaceship "the humans" as you say, will record in their archive as either an unidentified flying object or an unidentified flying object that happened to also be spotted around the same time a female disappeared. Of course, because this alien hasn't properly understood what makes a female attractive, the alien chooses the fattest female out of logic, they believe that she'll, in your words as the alien, "be able to hold more children thus be a better mother to the alien hybrids". Lessons you've personally learned from this short story composed on the fly: Blank (your own private thoughts here don't need to be shared) Blank (your own private thoughts here don't need to be shared) Etc