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@Hawkins I'v been there mate, try learning how to open up your heart chakra. Also some MDMA with a close friend, tho madma is bad for your health so you have to be carful. The only thing holding you back from connecting with other people is the fear of being vulnerable. Start prancing being more vulnerable and honest with people and you will be nicely shocked at how accepting people are of the real you

@Dbass One other way to get over this is learn how to actually get them, its ok to desire beautiful women your designed too. Honour your humanness and learn to elevate your self esteem to believe you can. When you do you realise its no big deal and having loads of beautiful women can never make your truly happy so you naturally start to put your focus in other things. Maybe you have this desire for a reason.

@ColeMC01 Ok cool, so what you wanna do from here is develop a strong base where you can hold conversations without having massive fluctuations in your emotions, and able to build some attraction with confidence and some teasing and joking. From there you want to start adding in touching and learning how to escalate. How it basically works is that if you show traits of being a lover not a provider the way the women interacts with you will shift and she will be open to sleeping with you and being dirty where as if your more on the provider end of the spectrum which most guys are she will qualify you and make you wait and hide the fact she likes sex ect. So basically you have to learn how to make that shift from provider to lover.

@ColeMC01 Ok cool so this is a good start, be willing to accept tho you might be wrong about how you are coming across. Quicker you do that the quicker you can improve. Im not saying your not telling the truth its just we can blind ourselfs so it would be worth getting someone to watch you infield for sure. If you are doing everything your saying there will definitely be girls attracted to you. Going by what you are saying it dose seem like sexual escalation is your missing link, don't forget all relationships are founded around sex, its the base you build on and teasing and stuff like that is good but you actually need to lead it into a sexual encounter.

@Chew211 Wow man thats what I like to hear thats amazing. I think a lot of guys can take inspiration from this. You have grown out of the looks matter mindset and started to see results. Keep going like that you will grow a lot. Very true we must never compare ourself to other people you can never win that game. Whats crazy is too that women love to love the guy they are seeing and out him on a pedestal, its literally ours to lose. When I started getting girls I was shocked at how obsessed they would become over me and how all this negative beliefs were just not true. My pleasure man keep going. @ColeMC01 should take note

Ok this interesting. It would definitely be worth getting someone to watch your interactions as we have blind spots and it will be very hard to tell yourself. Maybe get a well trusted dating coach in your country or something to watch you. Also something to note if your going after really attractive girls then there are generally harder to get as they have more options. Could your standards be to high possibley? Its ok if they are and thats where u can work your way up by building your value. Also when ai first started I couldn't get girls attracted to me maybe some then I slowly I could then eventually i would be going on lots of dates even with some very attractive girls but it would go no where. I would get regected when they got to know me then eventually I learned the missing link which is how to sexually escalate and not be ashamed of expressing my sexuality. Apart from approach anxiety this is the biggest sticking point for most men and really hinders mens dating lifes. So learning how to do that will really transform your dating life. But you have to be honest with yourself people are your mirrors so your clearly doing something wrong if no girl is attracted to you. I know some very ugly people who use to amazing with girls. One of them was called Yad and he pretty much invented daygame or pioneered it and he was very good at it. Ive seen him first hand bring back girls way way out of his league. He sometimes didnt even wash too so if he can do it im sure you cam, and there are countless other examples

I never said looks dont matter and if I did I said it under a certain context. Yout making this very hard for yourself, learn to drop this whole "Looks" thing. Its just pathetic, you have already admited that you can get good results if you learn game and not only that you say you have good socail skills so you'll get good quick then if so. There is something your missing here, this isnt about girls at all, its about being happy and fulfilled with yourself. Where do you think the whole hang up about looks comes from? Might be worth doing some work on healing it. I hope you find the love your deep down searching for. Its sad to see young guys now thinking like this. When I was younger i dont remember anyone complaing about the looks thing. Yeah your right that you don't have to talk to 5000 girls to learn this.

@ColeMC01 yes when you get good at game the 1/3 is the exact ratio to expect. Its pretty much well know across the board among people who have done it for a long time. One third will love you, one third will be on the fence and one third just won't like you at all. Recently I've been on a run and feels like 75% of the girls I talk to something could happen but i haven't needed to approach ive ended up talking to girls when I'm out naturally, I have a very social job and meet alot of them that way too. this wont last, you go on runs and have dry spells ect. Your attitude is all wrong, when starting out you should expect 1 in 50 to 100 maybe more but how else are you ment to improve? I all most killed myself with effort to get good at this when I was younger. Working long hours and going out everday. Sometimes in life you have to take this into your own hands and do whatever it takes. Be humble and acept the level your at, forget everyone else and work your way up. And your missing something too, doing this will eventually be very fun. When you get good at it it eventually looses its magic so enjoy the ride. Kind of you go through stages its never a clear cut thing. As you build momentum it goes away, but that dosent mean to say it can't come back. Except anxiety tho as you can still make it work with it

Thanks ? @ColeMC01 Your missing the point, there is deeper stuff going on here. Im prob above average in looks but can dress up as a tramp and still I don't have to do shit to get girls, I even recorded it. Its how relaxed your energy, women can smell neediness and also tell if your in abundance or not. Yes his looks prob get him an in. Having a negative self defeatist attitude is will put women off work on fixing that. Stop looking to other people and how they do and focus on fixing yourself.

yeah it really is that simple, Im a very talkative person so a lot of the time I end up in long convos with girls and that is a great way to make them your friend. Get them thinking logically it turns them off lol. Even just saying "you seem like a good person to be friends with ect" your main problem is that men are so desperate girls can probably sense that you are indifferent so that might make them want you. But try and be more logical with them and that should fix it. I can imagine this comes with its own set of problems, one massive advantage is you can really focus hard on your spiritual life without the distraction of relationships, a real blessing there. Its one of if not the biggest distraction next to career.

I would worry about this at all if your only interested in friendship all you have to do is not escalate the interaction. Its very easy to freindzone yourself just talk a lot.

Nicely put ?

@Loving Radiance ? yep, some might have to do more try and error than others

One thing I will say is that learning how to relate to women and putting yourself out there can be one of the most fun parts of your life, yes it dose involve a lot of rejection that can hurt but once you get past that it start becoming very fun. Once its sorted you realise getting your needs met so to speak is really just about realising that there is a high level of fulfilment we are all looking for and once you see through it you can never have the same joy from it again so enjoy while it lasts.

Yeah the biggest milestone I remember was I went on a double date with a friend of mine who had good game and I was shocked at how sexual he was being from the outset and that the girl was super responsive to it. I started to learn from then on girls love sex as much as guys but hide it due to cultural conditioning. I learned that you can actually make a girl feel comfortable to show this side of her, you do so but not being ashamed of your sexuality and seeing sex as normal and fun. But most importantly being very calibrated with the was you try and sexually escalate. Once the girl sees you are "That" type of guy, the lover not the provider the interaction then completely switches. Its like seeing the whole dynamic in a completely new way. attraction and comfort are important but most relationships are built from sex so you have to almost learn how to start from that vibe and let the rest progressed from there and I think this is where most guys go wrong they start by trying to build to much comfort and tread into the friend zone territory. Id say the two biggest problems men face are approach anxiety and the ability to sexually escalate in the right way. As an example a lot of girls will walk around thinking about sex so if you come open them and they fancy you they will be thinking about sleeping with you they just hide it but if you know this and they see you know this it drives them crazy and you can use it to seduce them. Now what you do with this power is up to you but you can use it to get awesome relationships. Once you see she is into you and will sleep with you, start seeing if your a personality match ect. Also this snowballs as the more women become into you it just keeps snowballing and comes off in your vibe. They have a six sense if you are getting laid a lot or not lol

Im very happy to hear you have climbed out of that, main reason why I created this thread is to make sure people avoid the red and black pill traps its so toxic. And great on your results man awesome. The age old question, I was doing this before social media and dating apps became as popular as they are now so all my experience is through real life experience which I feel grateful for as you get a better insight to the truth. For apps and social media, looks matter for sure and that is how the black pill ideas came from. Funny how it was not around before this. In real life interactions looks don't really matter that much, basically what it dose is it gets you an in but thats it. If you don't have looks you have to create your in in by using your charisma, social intelligence and personality. Luckily this is something you can learn and that is what game is basically about. I must of winged with well over 100 guys over the years, some have been 10/10 6 foot plus male models and some have been a lot less attractive. In real life interactions looks without game don't mean much and don't get you very far, one of my friends is tall and super good looking but can't game very well at all. Girls are open to him but he can't convert. Where as I know some guy who are not good looking at all and crush it and blow most good looking guys out the water. What really matters here is how you feel about how you look on the inside. Recently I have got my confidence back as I was on a 60 day meditation retreat for lockdown and felt very socially inept when I came back into the real world. I went on a few dates and they didn't go to well and I was trying to remember the old person I use to be. Eventually I got it back and on a roll. Girls have been asking for my number where I work and in coffee shops. I just start the convo but I have so much self belief that I allow them to pick me up and try and win me over as I know Im in mass abundance. But Im still the same person on the outside and girls would of stone cold rejected me a month ago if I tried that. You HAVE to complete stop caring about if looks matter or not and just work with what you have. Never look into black pill again. All day long, it helps to see it in action tho. Generally people who are good looking are more likely to get positive feedback when growing up because of there looks as we as a society worship the exterior sop this creates health self esteem in the good looking person and that is actually what makes them good at socailzing and game. Its more likely to be the opposite effect if your not good looking if you get what I mean but really its all about how you feel about yourself on the outside. There is always that one guy who is fat but super socially aware and can get all the girls. Also bare in mind you want to learn how to develop deep and meaningful relationships with high quality people so the more you develop your personality the more likely that is of happening. Im seeing this girl atm who is a bit older than me but she use to be very attractive and she's at the age where her looks are starting to decline and you can see that she is having this huge shift in realising that relaying on your looks is a bad move as they are on the decline and there is nothing you can do about it. You have to just keep going, take breaks when you start to feel it really getting to you deep down but get right back on the horse when you feel better again. It took me like 1.5 years of game before I could even get a decent girlfriend. I got rejected 1000s of times but never stopped. The main thing is to make sure your analysing what you are doing to make sure your not making the same mistakes over and over again. Yes you have to stop doing this, everyone is on different parts of there journey so you can't compare and if you do it will only slow you down. Best way is to stop this habit completely. What actions do you take to compare yourself with others? do you look a lot at other peoples social media act? do you follow successful people and compare your life with theres? stop, create your own vision and be blinded towards that. there will always be someone better than you at whatever you do.

@Martin123 I've learned just to follow the teaching and not the teacher, a lot easier that way.

Yeah I get that feeling from him also, he is super awesome. Love his energy but I take what he says with a pinch of salt. Psychedelics can enlighten you, I know people who have become enlightened through them so that ends his claims. Everyones path is different. I really really doubt he has btw I would say he is not even close to that

Agreed it really lacks emotional integrity and just people trying to avoid responsibility. Just never do it

@Ya know Well learn how to get things you do want. I use to never be able to get the girls I wanted too but then with hard work I got them. Simple.

Hmm Im not convinced I was expecting you to say a third world country but in Brussels you'll be fine. What you have to realise is women want to meet men in this way regardless of culture conditioning. Most women walk around dreaming a charming man will come pick them up its more about you doing it correctly. If your new and starting out your half right in a sense because your learning it and will make a lot of mistakes so as long as you go to a big city where no one knows you it will be fine. Just build up slowly, try and get into conversations don't worry to much about attraction at this point. Yes online dating is a great option right now using it. Try and maximise yourself on there get some good photos. Just a hint there is a lot of horny girls on apps atm because of covid, people are going crazy. Cold approaching in the gym is a bad idea, if your already good and calibrated its fine but you don't want to mess up an approach and have to deal with the problems after because you will prob see each other again. However you should be pushing yourself as much as possible to get into as many social interactions as possible so many just try and make small talk with as many girls as you can even at the gym. See the vibe and if its good then you can ask for a number.

hahaha a few times yeah, once in a small town I approached a girl and was messaging her then approached her friend a week later. But its expected in a small town so daygame is a no no unless your only visiting. It did also happen in a a massive city. I was seeing this girl and then approach one of her best friends. The best one tho was I once approached this girl and she rejected me and then I reproached her six months later and she didn't recognise me. It went very well and we went on a date and I asked her if anyone had ever approached her in the day like that before and she was like "once, the guy was super creepy not like you" lool. The fear isn't valid tho don't worry about it even if you do nothing bad happens, its actually quite funny. It is unlikely also

Yep its true, its definitely something worth aiming for. Quite rare tho but if you can all power to you. Yes I have always found this v impressive I tired it myself but failed. I had a dental procedure for an abscess without narcotics and I didn't managed to stay equanimous ahah I have a way to go

I think you will find the great bold one is saying this! It has a lot to do with this actually, loads of so called enlightened sages slept with hot chicks for fun and its ok if they did. Yeah my last relationship I had that. There is no moral high ground, just chill

@vizual Why would a supermodel be eating out of Tolle's hand ? Poss if they knew who he was but I doubt it would be that easy for him. The anwser here is somewhere in the middle yes there is a way to have higher conscious relationships and they should be pursued but also at the same time we all have natural biological drives that need honouring also and nothing wrong with that if you can balance it in a healthy way. You can't suppress your natural urges or it will come out in nasty ways.