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Most of them spoke Norwegian, so I don't think my awkward English is the explanation

It's really convenient for conservatives, isn't it? LGBTQ+ being a bunch of perverts. Maybe a little too convenient...

I have friends who believe homosexuality is a mental illness, and I live in Norway, which may be the most developed country in the world. Nothing was won 5+ years ago. Homophobia is still a HUGE problem in the world.

Haha, I didn't just insult them! I just tried to be myself and say what was on my mind, without worrying so much if it would hurt their feelings. In my experience you should definitely "worry" about that and be a nice guy.

My experience with being «bad boy»: Offending girls for things I considered nothing, and at worst being yelled at, but most importantly: Never getting laid. Not even close. This is the part of pickup/dating theory that seems like the biggest myth, in my experience…

Yeah, I think you're right. When I said "most girls", I meant maybe around 60%. This is absolutely not the case, I'll tell you that! Daygame has given me a lot of dates, while nightgame has pretty much only given me suicide thoughts...

Nothing special about girls being polite to someone they loathe. In my experience that's pretty often the case when they interact with each other During evenings out they're usually under the influence of alcohol, which removes the politeness filter and makes you more "honest". They're also usually approached by many(!) other guys, which makes it too impractical to be polite to everyone. Cold approaching is a big part of night life. Everyone who goes out knows that, and most girls probably wants to be approached by someone if they go out. This is really not the case during the day.

Like I said: This is of course what I tried to do every time. If being creepy was a conscious choice, there would be no creeps. I get all the results I need from online dating luckily, so pickup was never really necessary for me in the first place. I think what happened to the guy I mentioned, shows that a country like Norway simply isn't big enough for daytime cold approach in large quantities.

This is what I tried to to every time, but I still creeped out probably 80% of the 800 girls I approached anyway... A friend of mine approached so many girls during daytime that in the end someone postet a picture of him in a group named "Girls on Tinder", which is a group that exists to warn other girls about creepy/dangerous guys. Since Tinder/online dating is such a popular way to date here in Norway, most girls either are member or has a close friend who is member of that group, so you could say that this guy's reputation took a heavy blow.

Sorry, I should have clarified: I meant during dates, not cold approach.

Flirting. It feels very unnatural to do and when I do it, I usually get rejected, which makes my mood reach rock bottom. That surely doesn't help!

I probably exaggerated a bit, but: Four years ago, I decided to cut my closest friends out of my life. Things were going great the first year after, but after about a year and a half, I started to really miss them. It developed into severe bouts of depression, so eventually I just had to go back to them with my tail between my legs. They were generous enough to take me back, but only to a certain extent. Since the "comeback", these friends have been a major source of paranoia and loneliness. I've been excluded from things an awful lot, and it feels like Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve and my birthday all at once every time I get the "honor" of being with them these days. You can look at the bright side and think that it's good that I have finally learned to value friendship, but it's a constant disaster for my self-esteem. In the last couple of years, I've also started dating girls, which pretty much offers only rejections and very little satisfaction. To gain the social skills and life you need to succeed in dating, friends are crucial. When you feel as rejected by your friends, as by the girls you go out with, then your self-esteem hits rock bottom, and when that happens, life truly sucks. This has been the case for around two years now and every action I take to make things better usually backfires and make things worse. At it's worst I have sometimes acted like a desperate crazy person, which surely doesn't make the social situation any better. In the last four years I've only been able to make one single new friend who I actually want to spend time with and that's a girl I dated earlier this year, and we don't ever meet IRL anymore. Fortunately, things have improved in the last six months, but I do not recommend anyone to go through what I have gone through and am still going through.

I did this and it may be the biggest mistake I ever made. It completely ruined my life, even though it seemed like a great decision the first year after. Having no/too few friends is an absolute nightmare in the long run, and this comes from a very introverted person.

My impression is pretty opposite of yours. The most "green" girls I've gone out with have generally been the most attractive ones for my parts, and they were all feminine. Last summer I had a bad feeling before a date with a girl who turned out to be writing typical angry green blogs. Because of my past as an anti feminist and a huge Jordan Peterson fan, I assumed from old habit that she would be this kind of "feminazi". She turned out to be one of the sweetest girls I've ever met, who just wants the best for each and everyone. I both hope and think that was the final cure for years of anti-feminist propaganda that I've been exposed to.

I've had around 30 coffee dates in my life. Not ONE time has it ever led to anything. Drinks on the other hand usually go well at least half the times. I guess some of us really are born with a BAC deficiency of 0.05%...

Agreed. That bad boy thing just seems like a big myth to me. I've been on dates where I've been yelled at (and of course rejected) for being rude and offensive for something I would consider nothing. Can't think of any way being a bad boy has ever helped me. Not being too nice, on the other hand, that's a great advice.

Interesting points! In my experience they are just as willing to give their phone number away, but are less likely to respond to messages later, and will never agree to go on a date.

To put on a smile in advance has only given me horrible results. People actually seem to like me better the more depressed and low energy I am. I'm probably pretty unique there!

He must be really into ethnic Norwegian girls. Day game only works on foreigners here in Norway for some reason...

Problem is that most girls will most likely not be interested in you and they will find a cold approach like this pretty unpleasant. To hit on a girl in your social circle/school/work can also be highly problematic if she's not interested in you, and it can create quite a toxic environment. Unfortunately I speak from personal experience here.

I've done a lot of this. I realized in the end that 90% of the girl I approach finds this pretty unpleasant, so I stopped doing it completely. It's too unethical.

In the last two months I've been seeing a girl I met through Tinder, and she thinks that men who go to bars and night clubs just to meet girls, are really desperate... My best friend met the mother of his child through Tinder. Another friend of mine met his girlfriend there around eight years ago. One in four couples meet online these days, and Tinder is by far the most popular one, last time I checked.

The hottest girls I've gone out with, have been through Tinder, and I do not look anything like Brad Pitt! I paid to get some professional photos though. Your "How to get laid" series is an absolute masterpiece, but I think you underestimate online game. As long as you're not clearly overweight, most guys under 40 could probably get some results with a little professional help, like I got.

I don't get this demonization of Tinder. I have nothing but good experience with the girls I've met through it. Most of them completely normal and sweet girls who wants a serious relationship. Perhaps Norway differs from the rest of the world here... My biggest problem with Tinder is that it is by far the most addictive thing I've ever come across. I use waaay too much time on it.

Of all the problems in the world, wokeness being the thing you're focusing so heavily on and being emotionally invested in... As a white man from a rich family, It's so hard to comprehend how I couldn't see my own self-bias/self-deception when I was like this some years ago. What started my way out of it was becoming conscious of how destructive it was for my life. Makes me think of the movie American History X, when the principal asks Edward Nortons character if becoming a neo-nazi actually has improved his life. I wish everyone who are anti-woke the best of luck getting out of it. Can't recommend it enough!