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@Leo Gura Okay interesting, so with focus IN on absolute truth: Is that the same type of focus as focusing on an object, or is it more like a retraction of focus from any object? Does it need effort or is the effort collapsing during concentration? I'm very vague but I don't know how to put it in better words. Is it more a going IN or allowing to be absorbed by it? Also, if you just wait somewhere and don't want to do anything, are you constantly absorbed by it, or is the awareness absorbed by the sense of self? You mentioned cessation/nothingness is going down and god is going up. Is there a difference between concentrating IN and and being absorbed between the 2? Or was this just to show the distinctions and the awareness does the same in both cases? Imagine you lost interest in experiments in consciousness. You've had so many God realisations that every part of you is bored or not really interested in it anymore. Would there be a collapse of the focusing on being-god and being focused on ego-mind? Would it switch naturally between ego self and god? Would it only be ego-self, or would it only be god? I'm asking that, because for me it's kind of the opposite. Reality loses it's meaning and substance, once I am fed up with playing with awareness. There's nothing I can do to make it real again, and once it gets too weird, my ego self automatically jumps in and prevents the getting absorbed into the absolute now.

You all remember that video? Spoiler Alert: Came out that that man actually threatened her and her dog, he admitted it on SM. Because of fake racism anti-karen outrage, that women was shamed out of the country, lost her job, her dog and was constantly harrassed for being a racist karen. Just shows that context is important.

@diamondpenguin And use it as beliefs even though you're not directly conscious of it anymore? That might work for psychology, but not for insights into reality.

@Leo Gura Is there still an experience of "self" in you, or is it gone for good? Because people like Sam Harris, they say that if they put their awareness on itself they see the emptiness, but it's still a doing. Is there still the illusion of self seeking, or is just seeking happening? I'm not talking about infinite consciousness all the time, but more like automatic awareness of nothingness. It's really confusing to always need to compare teachers, also using the same words "knowing", "being", "emptiness", "nothing", "nothingness", "no-thing-ness" with different meanings attached to it. Also the difference between the illusory dog chasing it's illusory tail (There's nothing you can do to get enlightened) and not burning the boat before crossing the river. I listen to both. Before I meditate I am a seeker, and after meditation I watch videos pointing towards the illusory dog chasing it's illusory tail. Also, what's your take on the liberation from suffering.

@Husseinisdoingfine Those are hard accusations and up to today, nothing more than conspiracy theory. Prove that if it's not. There's a difference between, the evidence was later on seen as inconclusive or based on false information that the CIA acquired, and :"Someone made that shit up and faked reasons to invade iraq" If you're afraid Iraq has ties with al Qaida, you're gonna look for any possible relation between the two and find some things. It's called confirmation bias, and then people talk about it, and more evidence is sought, the ball gets rolling. Nobody wanted to prove that Iraq DIDN'T have real ties with Al Qaida or WMDs. If you don't want to make the same mistake as the US did during the gathering information, look for information to disprove the hypothesis that: "They deliberately made that shit up, to invade Iraq for this and that reason".

"If you are going to do what you want, I'm also gonna do whatever I want to you". And he proceeded to take out food for the dog. You can't blame a woman who is terrified after she was threatened to do whatever she needs for the guy to go away. It's not her fault, that police might have a bias against black people, and it's perfectly reasonable for her to use that bias against a REAL threat. Taking her dog away and losing her job, because she showed she had an unconscious bias against black people. That's just mob mentality, where everyone tries to hide or deny their bias and point fingers towards people who aren't acting (playing) as virtuous as them. I'll tell you how I found it. Sam Harris talked about it briefly in his podcast and told people to watch a different podcast in which she was interviewed. I cannot remember the name of the podcast. The US-media doesn't apologise for their fake news if it fits their narrative too much. They don't take responsibility for the harm they cause. It's the same media that portrayed a kid with a MAGA-hat with a smirk as a violent racist during WEEKS, or threatening to doxx the person that made a meme about donald trump wrestling CNN.

I would love to, once aliens show up and communicate, give the people 5Meodmt induced ego death and then ask them what they felt was crazier

@Leo Gura Nato is stronger economically and militarily than ever before. It's a decentralised world power. Nato has about +80% of the worlds economy. Bin Laden caused more harm to his muslim in-group than to America. @Husseinisdoingfine Why do you blame the USA, I can just say: Al-Qaida deliberately destabilised america in order to sow chaos. Al-Qaida killed: 200 000 + 2977 civilians. I hope you're not buying into the staged-war for oil. Because the country that invaded another (Kuwait) purely for Oil was Iraq under Samad Hussein.

@Husseinisdoingfine The people in power thought Sadam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and ties with Al-Qaida. Bad intelligence. A huge fuck-up. Or who really knows what goes on

@Breakingthewall I'm very aware of that. The good thing is there hasn't been a new hitler type overreaction (yet). Imagine jews had flown planes into buildings and shot up huge crowds of people for the world to recognize Israel pre WW2. Hitler would have had more allies in the extermination of jews. The afghanistan war wasn't an overreaction in my opinion.

@Natasha I wasn't old enough to be traumatised 9/11 and too far overseas. But I remember the bataclan attacks in paris. To answer your questions: There's still anger and fear. Especially against muslims who are in SD stage blue and not compatible with western values. I'm so biased that my first intuition, if SD-blue-Islam says A, I'm gonna want to say B. I consider every muslim who wears a hijab or doesn't eat porc, bc of their beliefs (not bc of culture) SD stage blue. I currently live in belgium, and some neighborhoods in cities make you feel like you're in the middle east, which disgusts me. So you can say I'm pretty biased, but I am aware of my bias. Ofc when I talk to SD-blue-muslims about anything else than beliefs or ideology, that bias disappears.

@Stovo 2 things. When you look into the mirror for a while, you're going to experience mild hallucinations, your face is going to look really weird, for example my beard merges with all of my face and it looks so Alien. I've done this so often that jt doesn't freak me out. What also happens is the collapse of a "here-me" and a "there-me" in the mirror. That's what kind of freaks me out. Unfortunately the hallucinations are kind of distracting, but if you manage to switch your awareness from here-me to there-me back and forth once in a while it's going to collapse. Try to find out if you're in front or behind the mirror when you look at yourself. This happens to a lot of people, especially if they smoke weed.

@Matt23 The black abyss, would you call it your soul being ripped out of your Body? I would bet money on it being awakening and/or DP/DR, which kind of is the same thing. Also, awakening is a perceptual shift, you're doing the same stupid mistake I did. Trying to make sense lf it afterwards with the materialist paradigm. I also called this ego-death with a little bit of psychosis, but that's just a story. I would stop weed if I were you or make sure you never smoke too much and get that Awakening properly integrated. Also listen to jim newman, because I actually rebuilt a sense of self because I'm an idiot.

@Greengrass Yes I get that too. Once the fear goes away, the weird feeling of not being in your head goes away, and there's only a calm feeling left. If you have pain, or feel like you're going to pass out, don't stay alone, call someone and if it gets crazy, call an ambulance. When I have glimpses, I also always tell myself I've had a stroke or that this is not possible, or that someone roofied me because I feel differentl. I recommend you don't stay alone though in case something happens, better to be safe then sorry, and I am not a doctor so who knows. Also talking to a friend would calm you down.

Catholic friend sent me this, Wikipedia was no real help.

@Moksha Okay, that was my first impression too. But why is the angel taunting/bullying the guy.

@Matt23 Yes that's it, a mild form of DP/DR. Well, DP/DR stays for a long time if you have constant anxiety. Fortunately I didn't have anxiety (except during too much weed panic attack), but had ego deaths nearly every day. Still feels like dying though haha. Do you remember the first time it happened sober? For me the first time was the most fucking intense terrifying thing I could have imagined. The other ones were way less intense. Infinite time -->eternity-->full ego death --> everything is unreal --> no self, no other selves --> nothing exists outside of perception. I looked at my hand and it felt like viewing in from the perspective of an ant and me being a giant. Felt like a feverdream/bad trip. That was like 6 years ago, but ego came back and suffering got pretty bad. Now I want that back. What did Shinzen advise you to do? Did he do it on a streamed call on his website or in person? I would love to hear it if possible. He was the only one that could make sense of what I went through. I initially thought I had ego death, caused by psychosis, and not a real "Awakening". Now I know the Ox attacked me lmao. I am still terrified of changes in perception and weed, I was 16. Now I'm 23.

Fuck that's incredibly sad.

@Tim RRRR what I thought, I couldn't articulate it. I'm not sure it's just a metaphor, but then, "You can teach Zen with any book" @The0Self No, unfortunately it was a serious question, because I kind of relate to that picture. ----------------------------------------------------------- I have encountered bad things from my teenage years to now, that I often told myself that "God is taunting/teasing me with a bad sense of humor". What made it so bad was that I couldn't even imagine how bad and crazy things could get, and then somehow they got worse, as if god was a creative torturer. SPOILER ALERT from "The good place"-series As if I was in the bad place from the series "the good place". And if that was a drama and not a comedy. I still have subconscious beliefs about reality being hostile, even though I'm not terrified of tommorow anymore.

@Matt23 Yes, If you continue, smoke too much, you'll get a panic attack, and a one pointedness of mind on that thing you're afraid of, it will be followed by DP/DR for a few months. I've been through it and many other people too. Don't do it though, you're not gonna have a good time. It's called the pit of the void and enlightenments evil twin for a reason.

@Slifon nofap, this increases the chance of the Kundalini energy catching fire during meditation. If you're able to fully surrender during meditation and once the pointy orgasm inthe spine shows up, focus on it, this might awaken it. Describe the energy of the lsd trip pls exactly how it moved how it felt etc. I have yet to meet anyone who awakened Kundalini and didn't have any symptoms. Kryias (involuntary movements) are the most common. And a lot of heat. Very bad cases of Kundalini awakenings can lead to psychosis or DP/DR.

@Leo Gura Interesting... I would love to see you interview Shinzen. I bet he would gladly say yes.

@Leo Gura Not a single known buddhist or vipassana teacher has achieved God realisation? Who of the modern teachers do you assume has realised God? Peter ralston, adyashanti, shinzen young, shunyamurti, Jim Newman, sadhguru?

@Jannes Better than learning a lot of theory, you probably should find a fully enlightened teacher who you can ask questions to, because you're going to dothings wrong, things are gonna happen and you're going to want to know what's happening. As far as I am concerned the search for enlightenment is traps traps traps traps traps. When I have questions for practice I ask in shinzen youngs mindfullness forum. When I have a question about enlightenment/metaphysics I just ask it here.

Damn the live chat is very dismissive. I thought the theories-of-everything people would be open minded enough for this conversation. Especially those who watch it live.