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Can someone explain to me what is the purpose of pouring water down the throat of someone who is tripping and barely breathing? And why Martin would touch genitals of the participants? (I would guess he has no intention of doing this sober)

@SuicidalBug Whenever I have a new awakening I watch leo's video about the facettes of awakening/enlightenment, to be able to communicate it. From what you say, I can take a guess and ask: Is there a fluidity in awareness when it changes from see to feel, or from thought to see etc. Do you feel the expansion and contraction within objects of perception? Do you feel like everything you do happens effortlessly, and are you "anchored" in the present, that you feel like you might have bad memory of how you got there (even though you don't, don't worry). First thing is: Are you located in your head? Is what you see in front of you? Are sensations in the Body located under "you". Are the things you are hearing happening somewhere in the room. Are you hearing with your ears, seeing with your eyes? If not, that's good, that means you are emptying out the concepts and objects. I recommend the book neti neti meditation by andre halaw. If everything happens effortlessly, congratulations you have become "the witness", now that's a big liberation aspect of enlightenment. Just watch leos video if you want to communicate your experience.

@Tim R That reminds me of an experiment I did, where is the line between the past and the present? How long is the "now"? How long is the realisation of being in the now. Is the now in between time?

@snowyowl I am contemplating that currently, I believe this is not the tip of the iceberg, but just ego. I believe it is the not-allowing daydreaming and focusing on the sense of self habit which you call aware-me. I am asking the question:"What is stopping daydreming", and "What is happening while doing that". What's the difference between conscious thinking, and unconscious thinking.

Every few weeks, I am able to notice an imminent awakening especially when I had a "bad night". I don't know exactly what it is, but I assume it's ego death that might lead to some kind of dissociation. I'm just sitting, and I am able to let myself be absorbed into something I cannot describe. Body feels really weird and I cannot put words on it. I couldn't even describe how I do that, but I am doing it consciously somehow... Everytime I do that, fear comes up and the most uncomfortable feeling comes up (not pain) in every mm of my Body. Before I am able to let myself get fully absorbed by it, my Body and heart get heavy and it feels like I was just shot, so I lie down and distract myself. I am familiar with DP/DR dissociations which is similar to that. but just so far back in time, I am not entirely sure anymore. Something that can be close to it is "transverberation of Saint Theresa of avila" but this could be something entirely different, I am not sure. I am just not sure how to push through that, and if I should or not... I of course don't want it to last for too long. Every time I am close, I am not able to go all the way through it. It's like I have to convince myself to... DIE. Not sure if it is a good idea too. Because of how long this could last and what's behind it. I'm not even sure I can experiment with it, because it just occurs occasionally every 2-3 weeks. So... What is that, how do I consciously induce it, how do I push through it. Is this a by-product or is this the portal? It's so fucking hard to find resources on those types of things, unfortunately there is no "spirituality for dummies" manual

@Dunnel Just make sure the type of meditation you use doesn't make your ocd worse.

Probably depends on the meds, I took ssri, and had a spontaneous kundalini awakening during long meditation sessions. Not sure if that's a downside, but it could have been prematurely activated, I don't know. Maybe this is bad for the nervous system, maybe it was supposed to happen. I guess you still can make "progress" while taking them, but you know, things can go bad with meditation alone, and antidepressants have side effects too, so talk to your dr about it, especially if you have a condition that could be worsened from meditation, like psychosis schizophrenia etc. Medical doctors (and some psychiatrist) don't know the effects hardcore-meditation can have on your psyche.

I'm contemplating Mind currently, and I found something that I believe to be an important insight. Mind finds problems everywhere. When there are none, it creates new problems out of thin air. Example: I just went to the kitchen and saw there is a little bit of a mess on the kitchen table. This caused a little bit of frustration. As soon as I noticed it, the mind right away wants to end that frustration, so it either pushes me to clean up everything perfectly, or go away from the "negative stimulus". Now I am in my room and remember the sight of the table and the frustration. My mind remembered that problem even though it isn't something practical for this situation. Now fortunately that is an external stimuli, and I am going to clean it in 5 minutes max. No big deal. However, when there are no external problems, the mind creates new ones out of thin air. I'm not productive right now, I could study or work. OR ELSE --> homelessness (not realistic, mind just threatens with the worst case scenario) "You will suffer one day, your pleasure is impermanent, how about that?" "You are not enlightened, and not free from thought, you have to meditate as if you head was on fire" This just is the perfect example for: The mind makes a good slave but a bad master. Just wanted to share this with you, feel free to comment or/and give me new things to contemplate about. I have an insight addiction lol. The next question I am going to contemplate is: If my mind had the infinite power, what would it do? (I assume that after solving the imagined problems instantly, it would just shut up)

Everyone agrees that matter (no matter if it is or isn't the structure of reality) can influence consciousness OR the content of consciousness, if you say that time is a content of consciousness (illusory or not). Like Sam harris said in the interview with rupert sipra, anaesthesia influences the continuity of consciousness. Rupert sipra said that it didn't. THAT I don't understand. Continuity has nothing to do with objective time? Or is continuity still continuity between falling asleep and waking up, because there is no experience during "sleep". If idealism is true, consciousness creates and manipulates matter. Every living being is a conscious agent and their consciousness fuels the existence of it's content including matter and the whole universe. Infinite timelines and infinite universes? The mandela effect is possible with this worldview. Mandela died in prison in some timelines and mandela became president in other timelines. Consciousness decides the "objective" reality the soul lives in. Panpsychism (top-down) is basically infinite mind, so I guess you guys are on board with the idea that we are the universe (God) splitting itself and experiencing itself. Panpsychism bottom up, is basically materialism with consciousness at it's base, which I guess means the same thing as top-down, just from a different/objective perspective. Solipsism is basically Idealism, everyone has their own timeline and happenings, the higher self creates everything INCLUDING seemingly conscious agents which aren't conscious, just contents of the dream, meat-robots. From my awakenings, IF I HAD to construct a metaphysical worldview without thinking about it, it would be a mix from pan-psychism and solipsism, Solipsism with the only distinction, that I am nothing, exactly like the other conscious agents. However, I refuse to believe that other agents aren't conscious, even though they are no-thing. I cannot know that, you probably can't either. What from what I said is true, what is BS? Do we share a dream, which varies for every conscious agent? Are YOU the only conscious agent, and this text is just your higher self summoning it? "It's a dream", well a solipsistic one, an idealistic one or a panpsychist one? That reality has the substance of a dream, doesn't mean I am the only conscious angent even though it SEEMS that way. Can you know that this experience is NOT solipsistic? Or does it go up to solipsism and the rest you have to assume? Enlighten my metaphysical hypothesis of the world, before I taste the nothingness again.

@Mason Riggle That's too much advaita talk for me. A lot of what you "should" realize, but not enough practical tips to realise it. Contemplation is what works best for me. There is always new stuff to find out. Also there are so many different types of meditation, that can help recognising simple stuff, this type of contemplative practice needs a way better map.

@blackchair Contemplate about it, makes you realise that it's absurd what the mind is doing when it is the "master". Also contemplate free will, voluntary action, different types of thought (voluntary thoughts, involuntary thoughts), effort. And very importantly the "reactive loop of the continuity". For example there is one random thought, and then there's the second thought (with which you are identified with), fighting the first thought, and that continues like that, thinking about thoughts. But you need to try it out for yourself, that's for "advanced people" (like us) often spontaneous liberation. "What takes the decision if a thought leads to action or not?" You can think about moving you arm without moving your arm, you can think about moving the left arm and proceeding to do so, or moving the right arm without thinking about it. So What decides. What are thoughts doing, if there is no need to use them to perform regular things. IMO if mind is annoying, it's because it's "solving problems" it doesn't need to solve. Realise you do things without thinking. You type 10 times a second when you are fast, but you are not controlling your fingers, you are controlling the words, the rest is automatic. You just scratched an itch? Did you consciously do that? Of course not. If you realise that everything EVERYTHING happen exactly on it's own like your heartbeat you get a sense of true freedom and liberation. Permanent, probably not. For me at least the liberation insight didn't permanently enlighten me, and came without changes of perception. What @Mason Riggle said. +1 I use the approach of "divide and conquer" while contemplating, because there is a lot of "objects" you can split even further.

Okay well if it's only 8 groups I don't even feel like I need to take out my statistics manual haha, it's very very very unlikely that it happened by chance. But I agree, that it might not be possible to control, or reproduced in a controlled environment, which wouldn't make it impossible during random moments. I guess that you are continuously doing research on psychic phenomena, unfortunately scientist often are excited to find something new, and a lot of fraudulent psychics, manipulate every possible controlled environment to manipulate the results. Listen to this ex spoon-bender explain all the shit he went through just to prove that he was the real-deal.

Hey I have a big strong fucked up shadow and I was wondering if there are any sober methods (except kundalini) to accelerate the seeing inner demons and digesting them. I was barely able to handle the Kundalini awakening but it nearly totally erased one trauma before K disappeared. I'm looking for other accelerated methods besides K or psychedelics. For example I would love it to be as easy as just meditation on pain like hot sauce, heat or cold. Intense Heat and cold give me a break and feel good afterwards (haven't tried hot sauce yet). But it's not letting demons resurface. Strong determination sitting doesn't do it either and I feel like I am practicing asceticism. Digestion is easy: "foetal position" and "surrender"

Yes this is practice I am already following. Maybe it's best for me to not do anything else, who knows.

I talk about demons in a metaphorical purely psychological sense. I don't believe that I am possessed by negative energies or something. Kundalini, is simply because I had a Kundalini awakening once. There's not much of an interpretation to make here.

@mandyjw Yeah well I understand what you mean, however I am not functioning as good as I wish to be. You know you can awaken and still be a worse mess than before. @Nahm No, atheists. But very strict on work and behavior. @mandyjw In my experience, I believe your neuroris can be entirely digested. @Seraphim Something like energy-Body work? That would probably be the light-version of kundalini. I work a lot with the pains and numb spots in my Body. Not sure how much this helps though. @BlackMaze Will try it, with the intention to digest the hidden pains. @Haumea2018 I don't think the people close to me are useful for uncovering my "traumas". They can only see the outside.

@Forestluv Very interesting experiment! The issue is also, you don't know what caused the effect. Maybe it's the flow state, maybe it's them falling in love for the first time. I'mbad at statistics and too lazy to check it for myself. But have you calculated the statistics with the entire class of pairs making the experiment? Like if there were 400pairs of students, what's the chance of at least one pair having 16 or more guesses correct? If it's less than 5% (which I guess it is) it needs to be reproduced or manipulate a variable to increase the rate of people guessing more than 4/20. Or filter people who score above average.

You are shy because you didn't learn to express yourself. Vs. You were strangled in your past life, that's what closed your throat chakra. They mean the same thing, talk about the same issue and might work. but why would someone add this past life story to it. Past life regressions have therapeutic value, and I have done a lot of them. However I believe the best way to do it is with hypnosis, and psychics who claim to see things deep in your unconscious are just guessing based on appearances. It being "objectively real" or not isn't the worst issue I have with that. In an infinite universe with infinite incarnations and infinite dimensions, everything you can conceive of happened. The issue is the psychics misleading people and it not having therapeutic values or persuading people not to take other therapies (that actually work) into consideration.

"Amalgam" google it, you'll have your answer. It's probably not 100% mercury. Either sadhguru is a psychic alchemist who can manipulate matter with mind or he is a bad magician. Or he simply doesn't know anything about chemistry and believes the bs he tells. One way to prove it: let him manipulate it and then take a sample to the lab. I would bet all my money on chemistry, not on sadhguru's psychic powers.

@Leo Gura let's be honest, most of healers, psychics etc. are full of shit. It seems that most people (even though enlightened) claim to be able to move mountains and have excuses for why it didn't work for one particular case. I've been told from am enlightened woman I try respect, that she could see throughy eyes. When she couldn't picture what I was looking at she told me that it's just the (parallel) universe I am into and that it is not false just different from her perspective. Sorry but it seems to me that most enlightened people are full of shit. Claim shit that isn't possible and when confronted with it, they find a reason for why it doesn't work. That's why I don't trust spiritual healers and psychics.

I hope this doesn't go against the guidlines, "Starting new spiritual communities, private groups, or cults" , "PMing members with pitches or promotions or recruiting" But I want to create a webproject/app and am looking for a partner (and also find insights into the "stuff") that is familiar with abiding in love/heaven and who is able to create with me an algorithmic approach to the increase of love-experience and empathy. I know how a love-awakening and heaven-awakening feels like, but it didn't last long for me, and I don't consider myself awake or enlightened (at all). So I'm looking for someone who IS. I am familiar with all the technicalities of "online marketing", so that is not an issue. I am not looking for self-inquiry methods that lead most people to a sudden falling into the love/heaven perspective, but more like a gradual(!), algorithmic and measurable approach meant for the general population. I am familiar with loving kindness meditation, but it's imo not enough. What do you guys think about that Idea? Do you have any insights that could help me?

Was there an experience of absolute nothing, or was there an absense of awareness of the nothing that was? IMO there is a differnce between experiencing timelessness (eternity) or not experiencing time. Is it the same during deep sleep? I just can't make any sense of sedation/coma + awareness of the absence of anything.

@Bazooka Jesus oral covid test accuracy = 60percent nasal covid test accuracy = 80 percent Friend of mine nearly died from covid even though both tests were negative.

@Chi_ looks like i have to travel to india soon...

I'm gonna take the skeptical position. If it's possible, why keep it mysterious an not simply 'levitate"? If it's supernatural, why not show it off? People who claim to have extrasensory perceptions weren't able to proove anything once. But of course there's always a reason why it shouldn't be prooven. Lack of faith, lack of consciousness whatever. You can always explain it away, just do ONE seemingly impossible thing and there is no reason for doubt anymore. I don't have any reason to believe in siddhis having an influence on other people. Show me something impossible if you are able to. If you have something, please show me I am begging you.