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Okay well if it's only 8 groups I don't even feel like I need to take out my statistics manual haha, it's very very very unlikely that it happened by chance. But I agree, that it might not be possible to control, or reproduced in a controlled environment, which wouldn't make it impossible during random moments. I guess that you are continuously doing research on psychic phenomena, unfortunately scientist often are excited to find something new, and a lot of fraudulent psychics, manipulate every possible controlled environment to manipulate the results. Listen to this ex spoon-bender explain all the shit he went through just to prove that he was the real-deal.

Hey I have a big strong fucked up shadow and I was wondering if there are any sober methods (except kundalini) to accelerate the seeing inner demons and digesting them. I was barely able to handle the Kundalini awakening but it nearly totally erased one trauma before K disappeared. I'm looking for other accelerated methods besides K or psychedelics. For example I would love it to be as easy as just meditation on pain like hot sauce, heat or cold. Intense Heat and cold give me a break and feel good afterwards (haven't tried hot sauce yet). But it's not letting demons resurface. Strong determination sitting doesn't do it either and I feel like I am practicing asceticism. Digestion is easy: "foetal position" and "surrender"

Yes this is practice I am already following. Maybe it's best for me to not do anything else, who knows.

I talk about demons in a metaphorical purely psychological sense. I don't believe that I am possessed by negative energies or something. Kundalini, is simply because I had a Kundalini awakening once. There's not much of an interpretation to make here.

@mandyjw Yeah well I understand what you mean, however I am not functioning as good as I wish to be. You know you can awaken and still be a worse mess than before. @Nahm No, atheists. But very strict on work and behavior. @mandyjw In my experience, I believe your neuroris can be entirely digested. @Seraphim Something like energy-Body work? That would probably be the light-version of kundalini. I work a lot with the pains and numb spots in my Body. Not sure how much this helps though. @BlackMaze Will try it, with the intention to digest the hidden pains. @Haumea2018 I don't think the people close to me are useful for uncovering my "traumas". They can only see the outside.

@Forestluv Very interesting experiment! The issue is also, you don't know what caused the effect. Maybe it's the flow state, maybe it's them falling in love for the first time. I'mbad at statistics and too lazy to check it for myself. But have you calculated the statistics with the entire class of pairs making the experiment? Like if there were 400pairs of students, what's the chance of at least one pair having 16 or more guesses correct? If it's less than 5% (which I guess it is) it needs to be reproduced or manipulate a variable to increase the rate of people guessing more than 4/20. Or filter people who score above average.

You are shy because you didn't learn to express yourself. Vs. You were strangled in your past life, that's what closed your throat chakra. They mean the same thing, talk about the same issue and might work. but why would someone add this past life story to it. Past life regressions have therapeutic value, and I have done a lot of them. However I believe the best way to do it is with hypnosis, and psychics who claim to see things deep in your unconscious are just guessing based on appearances. It being "objectively real" or not isn't the worst issue I have with that. In an infinite universe with infinite incarnations and infinite dimensions, everything you can conceive of happened. The issue is the psychics misleading people and it not having therapeutic values or persuading people not to take other therapies (that actually work) into consideration.

"Amalgam" google it, you'll have your answer. It's probably not 100% mercury. Either sadhguru is a psychic alchemist who can manipulate matter with mind or he is a bad magician. Or he simply doesn't know anything about chemistry and believes the bs he tells. One way to prove it: let him manipulate it and then take a sample to the lab. I would bet all my money on chemistry, not on sadhguru's psychic powers.

@Leo Gura let's be honest, most of healers, psychics etc. are full of shit. It seems that most people (even though enlightened) claim to be able to move mountains and have excuses for why it didn't work for one particular case. I've been told from am enlightened woman I try respect, that she could see throughy eyes. When she couldn't picture what I was looking at she told me that it's just the (parallel) universe I am into and that it is not false just different from her perspective. Sorry but it seems to me that most enlightened people are full of shit. Claim shit that isn't possible and when confronted with it, they find a reason for why it doesn't work. That's why I don't trust spiritual healers and psychics.

I hope this doesn't go against the guidlines, "Starting new spiritual communities, private groups, or cults" , "PMing members with pitches or promotions or recruiting" But I want to create a webproject/app and am looking for a partner (and also find insights into the "stuff") that is familiar with abiding in love/heaven and who is able to create with me an algorithmic approach to the increase of love-experience and empathy. I know how a love-awakening and heaven-awakening feels like, but it didn't last long for me, and I don't consider myself awake or enlightened (at all). So I'm looking for someone who IS. I am familiar with all the technicalities of "online marketing", so that is not an issue. I am not looking for self-inquiry methods that lead most people to a sudden falling into the love/heaven perspective, but more like a gradual(!), algorithmic and measurable approach meant for the general population. I am familiar with loving kindness meditation, but it's imo not enough. What do you guys think about that Idea? Do you have any insights that could help me?

Was there an experience of absolute nothing, or was there an absense of awareness of the nothing that was? IMO there is a differnce between experiencing timelessness (eternity) or not experiencing time. Is it the same during deep sleep? I just can't make any sense of sedation/coma + awareness of the absence of anything.

@Bazooka Jesus oral covid test accuracy = 60percent nasal covid test accuracy = 80 percent Friend of mine nearly died from covid even though both tests were negative.

@Chi_ looks like i have to travel to india soon...

I'm gonna take the skeptical position. If it's possible, why keep it mysterious an not simply 'levitate"? If it's supernatural, why not show it off? People who claim to have extrasensory perceptions weren't able to proove anything once. But of course there's always a reason why it shouldn't be prooven. Lack of faith, lack of consciousness whatever. You can always explain it away, just do ONE seemingly impossible thing and there is no reason for doubt anymore. I don't have any reason to believe in siddhis having an influence on other people. Show me something impossible if you are able to. If you have something, please show me I am begging you.

@Inliytened1 It's tricky, Osho put it perfectly, there is no God (noun) there is only godliness (adjective). From the awakenings I had into the nothingness, God didn't create anything, god is creation/existence. At least they are right about God not being able to be conceptualised or illustrated. Now thell them that jesus wasn't the (only) son of god and that this forum is full of prophets. I wonder if people who learn about God post-awakening would recognize their awakenings as (christian/muslim/jewish) God.

@Inliytened1 Do you think that most pre-rational religious people, wouldn't consider themselves as trans-rational or post-rational. There is no doubt, that if I go tell a catholic priest about my awakenings, he would call say that it is jesus and the holy spirit manifesting itself to me thanks to god's grace etc. Lucky me, I found Jesus without knowing it.

Interesting website, I might take a look at it later. Contemplation, without "finding" or "fixating" on answers to your question. At least that works for me.

@Leo Gura What would you advise Sam to do? I'm not sure he is willing to "play russian roulette with psychedelics" anymore, and I remember he talked about fearing to "lose his grip to reality", which might mean to fight a change in perception. I doubt that even if he had a god-awakening he wouldn't use the word "god", because that would reinforce "blue" in their beliefs, and he built his career in discrediting old-school religion.

I have the issue, that during the day I often instead of not-manipulating thoughts and ego I just add another ego-layer on top of it. Which seems to be counterproductive but might be just an other step in that journey. It goes like this: thought --> recognising thought (in head) --> spiritual thought --> switching awareness --> spiritual thought --> forgetting it --> repeating it Here is an example: "Oh shit I forgot to make a payment"-thought --> recognising the thought and fear --> "oh I shouldn't resist that thought"-thought --> focusing on sight (instead of thought-space in the head) --> "what do I do now?" One thing that helped once, was contemplating free will and differentiating between "random thoughts" and "controlled thoughts" which is obviously an illusory duality, and realised they were just thoughts. That insight gave me some kind of liberation, but the spiral seems to never end. There are all the types of identification possible. The ego -The spiritual ego- the perceiver of sensation - the switcher/controller of awareness and more - the allower of ego etc. I'm sure there are many more I am not aware of. So what's the solution to that, just observing what happens until it doesn't feel like "I" am doing that anymore? The only time there is no real identification is when I fear "death". The fear of death seems to make everything happen on it's own including movement of the body. I am going to contemplate language, and I want to try to consciously induce layers to the ego, for the sake of seeing that every layer is a layer.

@Someone here Okay, I guess we agree, we just talk about it in different ways, and talk about different things. @Rajneeshpuram It went from 0 to anus real quick hahahaha.

I know that, and I agree with that, the realisation of the awakening you mentioned was ordinary and grounded without firework for me. Unfortunately not permanent, because I am fooled into being the actor often again. I think I am just going to laugh next time I realise I feel like the actor, I don't know what else "I" could do haha.

@Leo Gura Is it a good idea to continue thinking about the metaphysics of reality, I might form new beliefs but I could also uncover underlying beliefs I don't know I have, and so being able to put them aside when doing self inquiry? I have to admit though, that most glimpses I had simply didn't have anything to do with my worldview. glimpses just change the worldviews.

Stopping thoughts seems to be a conscious controlled action for me. Which I know is as illusory because nothing is controlling anything I know, I am often fooled into the illusion of controlling and acting. Basically an identified part of me is fighting the not-identified part. Random thoughts are in opposition to controled thoughts. Of course that's illusory.

@Shunyata You just have to believe you are going to die, and let fear carry you. I don't recommend doing it, because it'll lead you to trauma and possibly psychiatry. Fear fueling you to awaken leads you to the dark night of the soul, pit of the void, DP/DR. Look into forums/fb groups of people who suffer from trauma induced DP/DR. I feel so sorry for them, I believe that is one of the worst possible emotional suffering possible (excluding physical pain)

@Someone here Why does everything have to be only about consciousness work? I agree, from the perspective of spiritual growth and ego, deconstructing reality to perceive the mystery of existence. On a relative level, consciousness work leads you nowhere within this life. I am talking more philosophy than consciousness work. I agree that everything I believe about stuff I don't perceive are just imaginary, and not direct perception. Throwing everything we believe to know away in order to have a glimpse at the nature of consciousness is a means to an end. The end being recognition of the self. However that's just one aspect of life. Post awakening, what do you do? You are experiencing this incarnation, realising that ego builds an interpretation of reality and being able to see through it is good. But that's not all there is to life. Maybe philosophy leads nowhere, but it's still important imo to understand every possible worldview and philosophy, for the sake of the world and people. Consciousness work has it's limit in this world.