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How was it? @Leo Gura I'm so excited to listen to it!

+++++ If you go ask a professor: "Is the word duck the same thing as a duck?" He's gonna say: "Of course not, I'm not a fucking idiot" But then in practice he's going to do his math formula an say that reality is mathematics. ++++++ This is so simple, so clear, but the most intelligent people get lost in the map and not the territory. I burst out laughing, because of Leo's ranting. Petition for Leo to always use ducks for his metaphors and analogies. Energy-ducks one was good too.

@Synchronicity Doesn't matter, they are too much into the symbols. I've been a materialist my whole life, I can tell you that atoms bouncing around, time starting with the big bang and space etc. And consciousness being emergent from electricity in the brain feels very very true. Listen to Curt's podcast with Leo.

@VeganAwake Okay, so everything you say is a pointer that has no prescription for or against practice? It's just a pointer right, there's nothing more to that than read it, get confused and continue to think about "how to I get there" even though it's a pointless chase. I feel like a lot of radical nondualists are like a mysterious oracles you just poke and it gives you another pointer? *Poke*

@Flowerfaeiry I meant I differentiate the raw perception from the thought as much as I can, and observe both. For example I have thoughts about what's inside a building, even though I am only perceiving the outside. Like from the minds eye. With people I differentiate perceiving people/bodies from the thoughts about a conscious-agent-soul looking at me. Maybe we're doing the same thing but phrased it differently?

@Leo Gura hahahahahaha got me good.

@Flowerfaeiry Why would you do that? This won't do/help anything. What I tend to do, is when I view a building I notice the imagination about the building while looking at the building. Or when I am with people I inquire into thoughts about there being people looking at "me". I'm also mot sure this is going to lead Somewhere, but it's showing me how my thoughts construct reality.

@VeganAwake How much does one need to end the chase? Just conceptually or also stop chasing regular day to day pleasures and distractions?

@LastThursday lmao thanks for reminding me of my profile-picture! @Scholar I probably need to observe the mind how it makes sense of reality NOW, because what the mind does is it remembers glimpses, nothingness etc. So it creates a new worldview integrating that glimpse that is not present now, but the respresentation of truth I witnessed in the path is only a Representation of it now, so it can't be TRUE in the now. One more pointer please, I like where this is going.

@impulse9 It gets even fucking worse. A few weeks ago I went to the zoo with my mother and brother, and they spent their attention in trying to find the name of the animals and were arguing about if "that's an antelope or a saharan gazelle" and I was just looking at them. Just look at the fucking animals.

What? I'm 3+ hours in and this is the best fucking pointer I could have ever hear. I'm blown away, how Leo manages to deconstruct everything! @Flowerfaeiry It's so direct and clear that I was afraid I might have an experience while listening to it. Wait for the duck analogies! @Leo Gura I don't know if you're aware of how good this interview is (at least 3 hours in), but I would bet that the other spiritual teachers and the big fish (who have yet to appear of Toe with Curt) are going to be blown away by your metaphysics and pointers and talk about it. Because of the questions Curt asks, and you answering them, this leads to direct deconstruction of the making-sense of reality for a lot of seekers. And you fucking nailed it.

@Windappreciator I bet you're watching now, after 40 minutes waiting.

I couldn't wait anymore, listening to it now. 10 minutes in, I know this is going to be great.

@Ismael Am I supposed to just listen to Leo without his moving hands and listening to Curt without his not-angry thinking face? I'm going to wait one more day.

@Willie China is not going to invade with an army, they are just going to buy the politicians and imprison the protesters. Might take a decade though. Taiwan is currently on high alert and will probably retaliate every single attack. Basically freedom by threat of kamikaze.

@Holygrail That's because your ego is supposed to fear death.

@VeganAwake I keep asking the questions like the interviewer in your video, and then laugh because I know what jim newman is going to say. Up until the last question. -Okay but there needs to be a path. -->What's taking the path? -Okay but I had experiences of no-self. -->What had experiences of no self. -So what do I do now? Meditate or not meditate? -->It doesn't matter there's no-one to meditate. The false sense of self wants to practice. -Okay, but how do I get towards enlightenment faster? -->There's no enlightenment. Nothing happens. -So I've wasted all these years of seeking for nothing? All of this suffering? --> Seeking just happened, there was no you controling it. Just thoughts and an experience of self and activities. -But what do I do now? --> There's already a "happening" it's the belief in a you that believes it has to make a decision to get somewhere. -I like doing that, I'm deconstructing my own self. --> You're not doing anything it's just thoughts happening. -But ehm, now, I want to do something about it. Can I just continue to deconstruct myself and write the paradox about me deconstructing a self on the actualized forum? --> This would be practice, an attempt from a belief in you to continue to deconstruct the belief in you. -So should I stop practicing? Continue listening to Jim Newman videos or just keep away from it. --> None of these. Don't watch the videos and don't not-watch the videos. There's no right thoughts to have, or to find or to change or to stop. There's no practice, and there's no stopping practice. -But what if enlightenment never happens or takes way too long or if I forget that. --> The paradox is looking for it, its the false sense of self looking for it. -I feel like a separate self, now what do we do? What do I do? Suffering occurs. -->The separate self feels it needs to do something about something again. -How can I stop it? --> You can't -Ok so the I (me) will either want enlightenment, which I cant get to. Or fesr it which I can't stop. I'm confused. How do I stop un-enlightening myself?

@ZenSwift "Heartmind Alchemy Lab"-Facebook group. I've talked to neurologues who do research on neurofeedback/meditation etc. Just go in that group and ask your question. They probably have studies. If you want the best advice, you're going to find it there. I personally use muse meditation headband, it helps with increasing concentration because it shows you exactly when you're concentrated and when not. However, I can't guarantee it's useful for your situation.

Let me be clear about what I mean: 1. Suffering is not your fault or your doing. 2. Suffering is not your fault or your doing. 3. Suffering is not your fault or your doing. 4. Suffering is not your fault or your doing. I have 24 more points but they are redundant. There's nothing to do about suffering, there's nothing to you could have done about it or can do in the future. Suffering is not something you do to yourself. The universe doesn't have a higher purpose from your suffering. Ask people who commited suicide. Witness the absurd amount of torture and suffering. You don't do that, god's will is instinctive. If God's will wasn't instinctive, why cause suffering? Calling it "GOOD" doesn't make it good, it's a totally different meaning. It's not feeling good. Why don't people who claim otherwise voluntarily put themselves through torture? Just to prove a point? Because they don't want the bad, they just call it a higher good. Nature is instinctive. God is not love.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I need my dose

@Moksha That should be clear, the new age community doesn't want anything to do with the pharma-industy, and that ideology hurst people. Well said.

@Ilan Good doctors always do risk benefit anyalysis. If antipsychotics hurt you more than they help, then they'll tell you to reduce the Dose. I cannot get your suffering because I never went through it. There are different types of medication that have different or fewer side effects for every people. What do you have to lose by trying everything the doctor tells you to try. Just tell him when you suffer more or less. That's the mental health approach.

@Tim R How did they feed it? Just scrape the entire internet?

Is it really a pointer if the pointer makes no sense. Or to put it better: Is it the right pointer? How do you know if there's a right pointer in a certain situation. Does anyone feel ready to make a spiritual assessment for me? Ask me question or lead me towards the next "step". Also feel free to write "There's no I that needs to follow a path". And "The I that's following a path is not there etc." I'm going to answer everything. Feel free to continue the assessment, here's the student asking the teacher for help: ----------------------------------------------------- I had glimpses, or awakenings, I had DPDR nothingness in the past. I've lived from the dissociated dreamstate. Afterwards I still suffered and even more. It was the most terrifying, intense time of my life. How do I experience life now? Anhedonia. I don't feel anything really. It's depression with a lot of anhedonia. What am I? Fundamentally, I am in every percept and object, but I also have a sense of self. The combination of feeling my head, and seeing things. My head feels like the HQ of control. I also have memories and fantasies. Memories happened, because I can try to remember something, and I'll have memories about it, and until now bieving my memories always worked. When I just stop, or let go (during meditation) there's a deep knowing that consciousness exists. "I know that I am" even before I ask the question. However, I dont experience eternity anymore, I very very rarely merge with the object of perception, and I suffer, which is the worst thing I want to get rid of. Sometimes it's really bad, and I'm not even able to compare it or quantify it. My life is not about beauty or pleasure or curiosity, it's mainly about escape, finding a solution to suffering and freeing myself from the burden of existence/incarnation. It's all about preventing suffering for tomorrow and truth. If truth was we're in Hell I want to know that we're in hell. I sometimes even consciously inflict suffering with cold showers, sauna and SDS, just to inquiry about suffering and how to transcend it once and for all. ---------------------------–-------------------––--------- I've never had a spiritual assessment done to me, and I know that a 1on1 IS necessary, but I guess that if I start to do it here it could be useful for everybody.

@roopepa just wanted to make sure....