Epikur

I am not so shure about it. Look at for example Brasil. There are many failed states who get taken over by fascism. We are making ganes in some fields and degenerate in others it seems. Most of the development comes basically from prosperity due to scientific progress. The base from it is hard work. I believe like Henry, the father of socialism that our default is being lazy. Degeneration is the default. People take progress for granted. For example the Aborigines lived for 40k years the way they did till the europeans arrived. Not much would have changed otherwise. Destruction is so much easier then building. False optimism can bring desaster. If you don't gratify the high achievers they will stop putting in the effort. Things will slow down, hunger and starvation can follow. Not every culture wants to be like Japan or Germany. Let them be work maniacs. It can be beneficial war everybody. They produce technology and others produce some form of happy cultures ideally. Then German and Japanes can take a break and enjoy other cultures. The easy going cultures on the other hand can profit from the technology of the others. That is the ideal scenario. If we can't handle that, things will be very problematic.

It was the opposite for me. I was raised in a low education islamic migrant culture. Their culture mostly was based on lies. The german culture helped to figure that out. The migrant culture had it's advantages like you said it was more fun, warm, easy going in general. I thought I don't want to base my life on lies that is why I left that culture. One problem was I think that I got the patterns of the culture subconsciously ingrained. That I think is one of the reasons I could not generate the intellectual patterns to be more efficient in thinking. I tried quite hard to overcome it with selfimprovement. Still it was not easy. My point is that some cultures hold people like me back. Also they base their lifes on lies. They should have the right to do it but it's clear that there will be friction between people like me and them. I tried hard to get my life together. It was really hard. Some cultures have given up but blame others. So my natural default is easy going but then I start to make stupid mistakes and my life becomes more difficult. That is why people like me have to fight to get motivation and have problems with people who complain and blame others all the time and behave dysfuncional at the same time.

The question would be with what kind of people one wants to have intimacy. If a women wants adrenaline and adventure she might prefere a bad boy. Or at least some risk taker. They can be found at night clubs or risky sports. If one can handle calm, nerdy, feminine guys then yoga, book clubs would make sense. In general dancing seems to be kind of a compromise to get together. Karaoke is also not bad though it is more an asian thing mostly. Women normally like succesful guys for that there are some meetups like internations I guess. I guess the tricky thing is we want always more than is reasonable and we come into the hedonistic treadmill. That is why I think I like to be as selfsufficient as possible. The quote for this: Things that depends on others is mostly bad things depending on oneself is mostly good. This way one keeps things realistic and does not lose oneself in illusion in lalaland. Internetdating seems to lack fantasy. What I mean is for example modern movies have so much special effects so that the important part that is the story get's killed. The fantasy needs space to unfold. Internetdating may feel too transactional, or superficial like ordering something at amazon. Bottom line one has to lower ones expectations otherwise things get frustrating very fast.

I think there has to be find the sweet spot the balance. Maybe there are parallels to some activities like going to the school, having challenging hobbies and so on. People who do it on a high level or the highest level are very invested in their activity. They are proud about it and they usually get positive feedback form their community. When this feedback gets denied and one gets punished to be good and proud for ones accomplishments naturally the guy gets frustrated. There has to be found the balance where the guy with his accomplishments (or the culture) gets positive feedback vs gets criticisim for his pride and humiliating others. The question is how much are these exceptional people worth?. They seem to producing inequality. On the other hand these people usually produce advanced technology that seems to bring social progress. So it's about balance. Both elements are important. There has to be balance between socialism and capitalism. Naturally everybody has their own default level.

Who knows? But we know for shure how much false propaganda and lies the mainstream media did about Trump. Bill Maher comes to mind. I have the feeling that he doesn't like Trump because it makes him look bad when he meets his european jet set friends. I would rather go with Tucker Carlson. He seems to criticize Trump more for the right reasons. Plus Trump did happen because of the Democrats. If they would not be such crooks Trump would not had a chance in the first place. Crazy times need crazy people or so

I think one important thing to teach people is self discipline and work ethic. Today I read about Henri the father of socialism. He seems to be a realistic guy. He thinks our default as people is to be lazy. That is why it is so hard to create a civilization and to maintain it. I really believe that degeneration is around the corner. It is so easy to give up and lose momentum. It is easy to observe that with the black community but it's true for everyone. I started to watch film noir from the 40s. The mordern movies feel like mindless disneyland. I love pop culture but I think it is addicting and can distract from ones duties so easily. Next you see you wasted decades of your life. It is hard to make the machine going.

You mean basically Trump and the Looters are Leo? Also the killings in Chicago, it is all Leo killing himself?

Right plus the gangster culture makes it hard to even consider to be a good dad as there are too few role models.

I think that is not the point. I think the theory is she doesn't want a father because then she would lose easy money. She would be dependent on him. He would be the boss. I guess she wants to be rather independent because that is what feminism and media says. This way she can have fun with other men for hook ups and feel like a boss and have the security to have enough money.

Yes there has to be a very smart systems of incentives to gratify "good" behaviour. That is some higher level social engineering, positive psychology, self motivation, self improvement thing. One theory is that the democrats did consciously creat incentives for women to be single moms. If she had a man she did not get welfare money. That produced the core problem of having no fathers. That seems to be a big reason for the crime problem.

Me too. But it's hate speech in the eyes of the mainstream. I think she was saying something about 18,5% but I could not understand that. I heard Ben Shapiro talking about that as well but I could not find the background. Vaush goes mad on her video. He is saying that her numbers (18,5%) are not correct. Today I am not fit enough to try to figure it out.

It reminds me of the translation of the word "talk" in german. The german word is "unterhaltung" that has a second meaning that is "entertainment" Social interaction seems to be 90% entertainment. That is probably why people love to be drugged when they meet other people. Ecstasy seems to be the most effektiv ones. Intellectual conversations are tricky. I guess that is a "luxury" I would not expect that. For that the internet is quite good. Also we look for validation from others that is mostly draining because it is mostly an illusion like the fashion industry it distracts from a sustainable emotional support system that is the one you have to create yourself. On the other hand when one goes to the path of self exploration it does make less and less sense to invest in socializing. So some sacrifices have to be taken into account I guess. A philospher would say: know yourself, then you can know where to go. I like Epikur he had this philosophy: Live hidden. Don't do politics. Live frugal. Have a garden with friends. I guess one should not have too high expectations for the friends otherwise things get to difficult. And be intellectually curious. I guess it is to chanel the general boredom into a good direction. We have the need to explore but that could bring us into trouble. Intellectual curiosity is an easy way to do it safely. Think about Leo for example he has a "digital garden" here where he "hangs out" with his "friends" I am a big fan of karaoke and self communication training like loud and silent selftalk, reading etc. It helps to connect with others and with oneself. Mostly the need to talk to others comes because one feels the need to express oneself that can be done to a great part alone with right training.

This is a film review from the socialist guy badempenada. He seems to really like it.

Do you believe in coincidences?

Ui. Candace Owens is hard to digest for non trumpees. I would have taken something more light. She gives a shill vibe. Some call her a grifter like Dave Rubin. She was once at Joe Rogan she did not do a good job there but I agree with big parts of her. With the alcoholics there is a saying that you have to first accept that you have an alcohol problem only then you can start working to solve it. The black community and many individuals give the vibe that everybody else is to be blamed but not them. The whites actually listen to them. In Asia say Japan and China people would not even listen to them.

Oh jesus. You go with the classics. It's funny the churches in Germany are so calm but little bit cold. This seems to be also the case with Buddhists tempels and Jewish synagogues. In the mosque you are on the carpet. You have no shoes on you feel little bit at home. I guess there you feel the love of the community. But it seems like ying and yang. Where is a lot of love there is also the possibility of a lot of hate. I told you about how I feel when I see the brotherly love between species in some videos. It seems it can be only sustained in a safe environment. Anyway the easiest version for love seems to be to get a dog. I am serious. Maybe I should get one. These kind of vids gets me:

Sometimes it is better to build bridges. Some cultures in history have created some amazing things. Other cultures took the torch and build something "better". Not much wrong in theorie to copy these cultures and try to not to get jealous if one is not on that level. Just aim for the better could be said. On the other hand because of the modern world we have sacrificed parts of our old culture that can be painful but I guess it is important to work with practical truth. I thinks as individuals and countries we can't have it all. We have to make sacrifices. To work with stereotypes: You can not have emotional passion like latinamericans and be at the same time like Elon Musk and vice versa. I would not say one mindset is better than the other. It is different. In some metrics is one better than the other. Trump fits not too bad to the american culture. Usa has quite the business culture historically. It is not bad that different cultures take different roles in the world. That might be more wholesome than when everybody is the same. Being complementary can be very functional like in the case of men and women.

Racism is just the flavor of the month. Another time there will be another topic. There is always room for wrong think. In 100 years we are dead anyway. Though some might be sad not to be able to fight the good war. This thread seems come so off-topic can somebody bring it back?

Maybe this SEAL guy is more practical about Love. He changed his style. He is the dual konservative combat version of Leo.

Well I am from Germany living in SEA. The mental gymnastics and the lies in the media and academia are crazy. Yes lately I read Poland ist doing quite good and making progress in many areas. Hungary is making huge efforts to give people incentives to make families. I think they are doing good even if I would have disadvantages there because I come from a migrant family I think countries should be allowed to do their thing as much as possible. Slowenia has not one mosque in their land. Pretty interesting.

There are brown people here at the forum who have a different viewpoint. There are also black guys who are against BLM. Biden would call them white. People seem to have different opinions on things who would have thought? These black men you will have difficulty to find because the mainstream media doesn't like that narrative. If you want to find them search for the victims of the riots like David Dorn in yt. There you will find these guys like this one:

I think he didn't mention how many people and who died in the riots. I think he forgot to mention this too: "Americans trust police officers, military leaders and local public officials more than members of Congress, tech leaders and journalists, according to a study published by the Pew Research Center on Thursday." https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/us/trust-congress-military-police.html

You didn't answer the question. Read careful what the question was.

You are producing empty word salads. I just can't find substance.

Well it does makes sense to me. Don't you have some theories?