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It feels like their project was to make politics boring so the establishment has a peace of mind. Maybe that is not the worst thing. Who would trust the citizens ?

or get creative. Btw. is New York dead forever?

Very true but I would go further if you didn't study philosophy and have a PhD that means you don't care about the truth.

@louhad He doesn't get much love from his comrades: Žižek’s emergence as an open right-winger is particularly significant because he has long tried to pose as an opponent of capitalism and even as a “Marxist” or a “post-Marxist.” In pseudo-left circles of intellectuals and semi-intellectuals he has been celebrated and courted accordingly. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/02/08/zize-f08.html

Marxism and reality didn't work out in history imho.

Zizek is a pop philospher. He loves telling bad jokes and making fun of gulaks and he sounds terrible imho.

I think JP meant the danger of this I guess:

@Opo I said if it is not possible. Things can go different ways. Many people might decide no we don't want to give the violent protestors what they want.

@Opo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change Contents 1Pre-1887 interventions1.11800s 1.1.11805: Tripolitania 1.1.21846-1848 Annexation of Texas and invasion of California 1.21860s 1.2.11865–1867: Mexico 21887–1912: U.S. Empire, Expansionism, and the Roosevelt Administration2.11880s 2.1.11887–1889: Samoa 2.21890s 2.2.11893: Kingdom of Hawaii 2.31900s 2.3.11903: Panama 2.3.21903–1925: Honduras 2.3.31906–1909: Cuba 2.3.41909–1910: Nicaragua 31912–1941: The Wilson administration, World War I, and the interwar period3.11910s 3.1.11912–1933: Nicaragua 3.1.21913-1919: Mexico 3.1.31915–1934: Haiti 3.1.41916–1924: Dominican Republic 3.1.51917–1919: Germany 3.1.61917–1920: Austria-Hungary 3.1.71918–1920: Russia 41941–1945: World War II and the aftermath4.11940s 4.1.11941: Panama 4.1.21941–1952: Japan 4.1.31941–1949: Germany 4.1.41941–1946: Italy 4.1.51944–1946: France 4.1.61944–1945: Belgium 4.1.71944–1945: Netherlands 4.1.81944–1945: Philippines 4.1.91945–1955: Austria 51945–1991: The Cold War5.11940s 5.1.11945–1948: South Korea 5.1.21945–1949: China 5.1.31947–1949: Greece 5.1.41948: Costa Rica 5.1.51949–1953: Albania 5.1.61949: Syria 5.21950s 5.2.11950-1953: Korea 5.2.21952: Egypt 5.2.31952-1953: Iran 5.2.41953-1958: Cuba 5.2.51953: Philippines 5.2.61954: Guatemala 5.2.71956–1957: Syria 5.2.81957–1959: Indonesia 5.2.91958: Lebanon 5.2.101959-1963: South Vietnam 5.2.111959: Iraq 5.2.121959-2000: Cuba 5.31960s 5.3.11960–1965: Congo-Leopoldville 5.3.21960: Laos 5.3.31961: Dominican Republic 5.3.41961–1975: Laos 5.3.51961–1964: Brazil 5.3.61963: Iraq 5.3.71964: Chile 5.3.81964-1975: Vietnam 5.3.91965–1966: Dominican Republic 5.3.101965–1967: Indonesia 5.3.111967–1975: Cambodia 5.41970s 5.4.11970–1973: Chile 5.4.21971: Bolivia 5.4.31972–1975: Iraq 5.4.41974-1991: Ethiopia 5.4.51975-1991: Angola 5.4.61977: Zaire 5.4.71978: Zaire 5.4.81979–1993: Cambodia 5.4.91979–1989: Afghanistan 5.51980s 5.5.11980–1989: Poland 5.5.21980–1992: El Salvador 5.5.31981–1982: Chad 5.5.41981–1990: Nicaragua 5.5.51983: Grenada 5.5.61989-1994: Panama 61991–present: Post-Cold War6.11990s 6.1.11991: Iraq 6.1.21991: Haiti 6.1.31992–1996: Iraq 6.1.41994–1995: Haiti 6.1.51996–1997: Zaire 6.1.61997–1998: Indonesia 6.22000s 6.2.12000: Yugoslavia 6.2.22002: Venezuela 6.2.32003–2011: Iraq 6.2.42006–2007: Palestinian territories 6.2.52006–present: Syria 6.2.62007: Iran 6.2.72009: Honduras 6.32010s 6.3.12011: Libya 6.3.22015–present: Yemen 6.3.32019–present: Venezuela

@louhad Well you still have the "paradox". Which is maybe not a paradox. Though their numbers are growing, only 27 percent of all students taking the AP Computer Science exam in the United States are female. The gender gap grows worse from there: Just 18 percent of American computer-science college degrees go to women. This is in the U.S., where many college men proudly describe themselves as “male feminists” and girls are taught they can be anything they want to be. Meanwhile, in Algeria, 41 percent of college graduates in the fields of science, technology, engineering, and math—or STEM, as it’s known—are female. There, employment discrimination against women is rife, and women are often pressured to make amends with their abusive husbands. According to a report that I covered a few years ago, Jordan, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates were the only three countries in which boys were significantly less likely to feel comfortable working on math problems than girls were. In all of the other nations surveyed, girls were more likely to say they feel “helpless while performing a math problem.” So what explains the tendency for nations that have traditionally less gender equality to have more women in science and technology than their gender-progressive counterparts do? A scatter plot of countries based on their number of female STEM graduates and their Global Gender Gap Index (y-axis), a measure of opportunities for women (Psychological Science) According to a new paper published in Psychological Science by the psychologists Gijsbert Stoet, of Leeds Beckett University, and David Geary, of the University of Missouri, it could have to do with the fact that women in countries with higher gender inequality are simply seeking the clearest possible path to financial freedom. And typically, that path leads through STEM professions.

Imho we learned this from him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-equality_paradox

@Opo That someone is the USA (CIA). Is that not enough? 6.22000s 6.2.12000: Yugoslavia 6.2.22002: Venezuela 6.2.32003–2011: Iraq 6.2.42006–2007: Palestinian territories 6.2.52006–present: Syria 6.2.62007: Iran 6.2.72009: Honduras 6.32010s 6.3.12011: Libya 6.3.22015–present: Yemen 6.3.32019–present: Venezuela

@Don Wei It's kind of tough. I would start with developing patience. Maybe through meditation. Then try to do the hard work very regularly as that is the key to freedom.

@Opo Yes as far as I understood we have to give the killing and burning protestors what they want (justice that is eliminate systematic, structural, traditional, hereditarial, historical racism) or they kill and burn more. If that is not possible maybe Stockholm Syndom might help to love the violent protestors.

You didn't see it? What about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

He did a good job but it cost him alot. That is maybe why he is sick. His voice always breaks. He tries to drink the water then he stops. His laughter is artificial.

@Opo I sometimes can open up my heart for violent protestors who kill and burn but often I can't. Let's see.

The USA is mainly build like a corporation. The democracy part is just a part of it. That is the tradition. Why would you change a badly but still running system? The USA is not meant to be a normal country. It's the country of competition. That is the American experiment. Otherwise it would be just another country. It's progressive sometimes to do something new. The new thing is the USA imho.

@Opo You have a big heart for the violent protesters. Some have a big heart for their victims.

@humanProcess Awesome

I see stuff burning what do you see?

Hegel would say that the dialectic has to do it's thing. That is how things evolve or are.

Yes it is the way reality forces itself on you. If you want your freedom and comfort reality will punish you hard. You have to be on your toes and be a bit paranoid. That is how it works. Life is not meant to make you happy. It's something else it seems