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When discussing progressive policies it doesn't help that this face comes to mind for conservatives. These are the people they think of when they hear terms like "socialism." Honestly it looks like college students are too young and immature to be involved in politics. They are very emotionally sensitive and trigger happy. if college students didn't treat Peterson this way, maybe he would have become a very effective stage yellow thinker. Now he is probably stuck with his stage green shadow until he dies. When you tell a conservative that liberals are more cognitively developed them, they will reject spiral dynamics. These are the images they think of when talking about social justice warriors.

@DocWatts I listened to a couple of small clips from the podcasts. They were pretty amazing. The hopelessness of a meaningless death in opposition to a tyrant hits pretty hard when judging those who didn't oppose Hitler, Stalin, and other powerful people. Those who opposed the tyrants simply disappeared without expressing themselves. If I compare this to what is happening with Putin, it is getting harder to hide this practice with the advance of technology. News stories about people falling from windows spread all over, news stations get cut off when they start criticizing Putin, the world wide web makes it easier to see through the lies and so on. It seems to be more obvious what Putin is doing than it was when Stalin was doing it. People are disappearing, but not without a trace. At least I don't have a problem admitting that I would most likely be a Nazi if I were born in radically different circumstances.

@DocWatts I have a lot of questions about how you learned all of this. Are there books on politics that Leo should add to the book list? Do you follow sites other than actualized? Did you go to college and major in history, economics, or something else? Did you take any online courses? Were they paid courses? What motivates you to do so much research? Should Leo make a video on how to do good research? I think he mentioned that a while back. How do you get your news? I stopped following a lot of alternative news sources because they demonize way too much. In fact that demand for demonizing is so high that I could build voodoo dolls of republicans so people would practice dark magic on people like Donald Trump. I would be rich. Another business idea I'm considering is building a university that points to the future of education. I would have to understand a lot more about the world for something like that to be successful. I like the impact of such an idea more than Trump voodoo dolls.

@MarkKol I think you have given a lot of valuable input. Comparing the profits of movies and series seems to be a good point. It takes a lot more work from a dedicated team to get a long series to come to a close after five or more seasons. The idea that inspired me to make this post was a new Zelda cartoon. I tried calling Nintendo, but they currently have no plans until a production company purchases the rights to produce it. I'm sure it would get a ton of attention. I wrote out some of the script and it is pretty entertaining.

I am wondering about businesses which produce cartoons. This would be mostly kid shows like cartoon network, Nickelodeon, cookie jar, and so on. The producers of adult shows like family guy could be included in this question. If I produce a cartoon and put it on tv, where does the return for the investment ultimately come from? Is it mainly from advertising? How much of an investment does it take to produce about 100 episodes that run once a week? I also need to know how to get such a company off of the ground if it turns out I have to build one.

@Heart of Space I think the reason people are getting fired up at you is because of your stance on innate intelligence. This was used by racist people throughout history to justify things like slavery through arguing that blacks are animals. Maybe you don't mean to come off that way. On a deeper level this debate is about nature vs. Nurture. Given the inequality between blacks and whites throughout history, most on this forum understandably argue that nurture is the greatest cause for these differences. That said, there is research that suggests that environmental factors can influence genetic expression of your children and grandchildren. In the case of the Japanese, the seafood diet stays in place for centuries, influencing the genetic expression of their children and grandchildren. The genes which emerge from this environment may lead to higher IQ as you argued. Even so, there is still significant genetic variety within any race. Two black people can be more different than a white and black person in terms of their DNA. If you maintain the belief that genes are inherent and inflexible, then this misguided scientific belief can get you in trouble. In fact genes are much more flexible than originally assumed. "Biologists originally believed the DNA passed down to offspring remained unaltered, regardless of environment. Scientists are now learning this may not be the case." Keep in mind that the gap between whites and blacks in IQ scores and test scores is getting narrower. The change is happening relatively quickly. Perhaps this demonstrates how quickly genetics can evolve between generations as environmental factors are equalized.

@Consept it is good to know that the test gaps are shrinking at a relatively fast pace. Thank you for sharing your findings.

@Shakazulu I used to follow the daily wire. There is a lot of fear mongering about the radical left. It is often overblown, but sometimes there are real examples that feed the right wing. A couple more come to mind. No wonder I used to think the left was insane. I accidentally put this one on twice. Anyway it is very hypocritical to have a man as a women's rights activist kicking pro life women in the face. Apparently there is a more recent example of a pro choice man punching a pro life women in the face. The anti kavanaugh protests were at best ineffective and at worst a detriment to the left. According to the Washington post some protestors were paid. These protestors banged on the door and left scratch marks. It makes them look kind of crazy. Sometimes the left wing makes a lot of noise in these protests, but it ends up being fruitless until they forget about it next month because of another outrage. Sometimes it looks like they start all kinds of drama and it doesn't solve anything. This is part of the left wing being overly sensitive. Micro aggressions is another example. Asking "where are you from" could be interpreted as racist. When the left wing is overly sensitive it wants to destroy any symbol of stop any conversation that is Even remotely racist because of some historical context. This made me think the left was crazy when they started destroying statues. Most importantly, why the left is losing. Antifa has a violent history and harassed a lot of conservatives. I can't find the video I'm thinking of, but there are plenty of examples of antifa violence mentioned in Wikipedia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

I think this video is relevant. Vaush does a good job of explaining how environmental differences can lead to genetic differences. Although these genetic differences may coincide with race, it is not inherent to race itself.

A couple come to mind. There were many social justice warriors who broke into the classroom and started shouting Peterson down. I believe that this kind of behavior has made Peterson even more toxic in recent months. Part of the reason why I used to find the daily site convincing is because of leftist identity politics. Oftentimes there is no serious discussion. It is making blanket judgements based on a person's race. They are not interested in understanding other perspectives. In my personal experience I was uncomfortable when my college teacher pointed out that I was the only white guy in the room. There is clearly an anti white stereotype and vaush is aware of this.

I used to be very skeptical of movements like BLM. It seemed to me that these movements were playing the victim to gain undue advantages. One example was calling a teacher racist because she gave blacks lower scores arguing that some black students objectively lack discipline and score lower in reading and math. Although many environmental factors are at play, it is concerning that black students often fall behind. I was afraid to tell people this because I would seem racist for pointing out the lower test scores in black students. I am not arguing that they are inherently inferior. It is concerning that this could make it more difficult for black students to get in good schools. It makes it harder to desegregate white universities without lowering the standards that black students need to pass. The result of all of this is the reinforcing of economic disparity between black and white people. From this point of view it seemed to me that systemic racism was just a boogeyman with which to shirk personal responsibility. I never believed that genetics actually made black people intellectually inferior because two black people can be more genetically different than a black person and a white person. The main difference is just the skin pigment according to modern science. It therefore seems to me that most of the difference has to do with black culture and identity, not genetics. Black culture includes both the consequences of systemic racism and the victim mindset about systemic racism. It creates a vicious cycle of disempowerment and racism by outcome. Reasoning like this is what made me drawn to people like Ben Shapiro to begin with. "It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with culture" he argued. Although I now know Shapiro is a shameless partisan, I believe this accurately depicts the perspective of white people who are strongly conservative and deny the existence of systemic racism.

@Leo Gura I think you did an excellent job on your two recent videos. I was pretty glued to the video because I really want to understand healthy forms of stage blue and orange. Sometimes it can be hard to find because like the left wing, the right wing excessively demonizes And straw mans the other side. I think you have covered most of the oversights from the left pretty well. I had two points of disagreement. One would be how you discussed conservative blacks. According to Pew research studies blacks are more likely to vote Democrat than whites on a national scale. You seem to mean blacks in southern states, in which case it makes sense. Apparently, there are some blacks who are fed up with BLM creating a victim mindset and becoming unproductive. This seems like an interesting topic. The second point is trans issues. I think you made a good point that to most people who are not LGBTQ these issues are not relevant for improving their lives. Sometimes other people seem bothered that I'm a straight white male. Somehow there is a stigma to not being a victim in leftist group think. Of course I could be a victim in other ways like a bad family full of drug addicts. This might make conservatives close minded to psychedelics as it did to me initially. The problem is how you placed a gender transition next to a transition to another species of animal. You seem to misunderstand the actual position of most leftists on gender issues. In the case of women, sometimes they have y chromosomes that did not develop as they normally would. Some leftists distinguish this from transitioning to another species arguing that the difference between a man and an animal is more fundamentally different than the difference between a man and woman. The left does not think of gender issues like the South Park episode in which a man became a dolphin. Comparing gender transition to a unicorn transition or an animal is believed to be a misleading comparison in leftist thought. I'm not saying I agree with the leftist position on all of this, but this seems to be the actual position.

@Carl-Richard thanks for confirming. I genuinely could not tell because there are some cults which act completely insane.

@Carl-Richard is this really a thing? I am having a hard time believing that these people are serious. They look like actors. Are they like this for real?

Satanists are stage orange. They react to the excesses of stage blue, arguing that they don't like the self deception of wall papering over their doubts. Some people become Satanists after being sexually abused and they see how fake the whole institution is. The most common reason people have a crisis of faith is because others in their faith were cruel to them and they felt betrayed. Although they do not literally believe in Satan, Satan is still used as a symbol of man. This is man as an animal. Stage blue commonly misunderstands The religion, assuming they literally worship the devil. This continues to prevent some countries from recognizing Satanism as a religion. In reality they are atheists who do charity. The church of cannabis is stage green. I went there in vacation. They believe that wisdom is in the questions we ask and not in the answers we give. The church reacts to the dogmatism of stage blue. They had a video game room downstairs which was pretty awesome and I got a high score on galaga. They had a light show upstairs which have my brother a headache. My epilepsy used to be much worse as well. The goal of these light shows seem to be to mimic the effects of psychedelics.

@Heart of Space I would like to point out that the Japanese have a much higher IQ than Americans. This difference is accounted for by the food industry in both countries. In Japan they eat a lot of sea food which is far better than the standard American diet. Many of the ingredients in the food we eat are carcinogens, heavy metals, and heavy sugar. This adds up to the point of brain damage. Brain damage certainly explains the difference in IQ. If Americans had a better food industry then the average voter could have an IQ about ten points higher. With this in mind, I eat a lot more sea food and it helps me focus with sustained energy. I should further add the life styles of world chess champions. Although genetics is a factor in Fischer having an IQ of 180, Fischer also believed that body and mind could not be separated. He often went swimming. Kasparov did a lot of push ups. Carlsen plays soccer. Interestingly, Carlsen is also a vegetarian. I don't believe that diet can make up the total difference in IQ. Then again, IQ tests could be measuring intelligence in a poor way. Maybe pattern recognition can be practiced and improved. Maybe there are other ways to measure intellectual ability other than pattern recognition. Maybe I'll look more into the actual data on test scores by race. There have been some fights over possibly racist teachers who argue that blacks objectively score lower than whites on graded tests.

@Hatfort thanks for the update. I was waiting for the situation in Kherson to clarify. It seems that the Russian army is preparing to retreat. Ukraine is likely to take back a significant amount of territory in the region over the next week. It is not immediately obvious to me why the Russian army is using its kamikaze drones And cruise missiles to target civilian infrastructure. It's possible that they are planning to weaken Ukraine's defense in Kyiv before invading through Belarus. Ukraine has its northern border fortified in case this happens.

My thoughts on this video is that it was definitely needed and Leo did a great job on this video. Many of his points match my personal experience. I have two sisters and a cousin who are very progressive and they often argue with their parents and grandparents over politics. I always felt skeptical about judging people from hundreds of years ago for slavery. One thing I would add to progressives is the weaponization of spiral dynamics. I tried to teach others about the model, but stage green interprets the model as being more developed than conservatives and therefore superior. The stage green ego has a hard time appreciating the significance of these models. telling progressives about spiral dynamics will make them double down and continue judging people as racist bigots. My sister is a feminist who uses models of the brain to prove women are superior to men. Stage green is close minded to research when ever it seems to validate the conservative perspective. For example, mom started talking about how some slaves used to be white. I was open minded and looked at the research, but my sisters refused to look because of mom's racist agenda. As a result I agree with progressives on many points, but they are only open minded when my research validates their current perspective. The fundamental misunderstanding of conservatives is the result of constant demonization. I manage to stop a lot of these arguments simply by sharing my research. This demonstrates how much conflict is created through misunderstanding. If we had a news station that just reported the facts without a political agenda, then this would solve a lot of problems with polarization. Usually the facts favor progressives, but a higher level is possible. Excellent video. I hope this forum benefits greatly from this balancing of our political views. This video helps see the difference between stages green and yellow.

I would prefer to avoid the implied yelling through typing in all caps. On the other hand I have a question. I've heard of the water wars caused by climate change induced droughts and Saudi Arabia is already talking about water wars. In fact the drought in Syria crippled the economy to the point that it partially motivated the civil war in the region. I haven't heard of wars for rare metals. Where did you hear about wars for metals and what metals are those? Do you know the function of these metals?

I think this forum would benefit from understanding conflict between stage green and yellow. I remember how heated the issue became discussing the possibility that stage yellow could support the death penalty arguing that the compassion of stage green is misplaced on those who would happily exploit it. If most people don't appreciate how rare stage yellow is and why this is so, then there will be many heated discussions that seem to go nowhere on this forum. It often boils down to assuming biased or partisan motives in those with whom we disagree. If this forum is about personal development, then I encourage everybody to check their knee jerk reactions especially if they are heated. By taking our opinions too seriously it can make it harder to detach ourselves from our beliefs. If this forum values open mindedness then we must realize that inner peace comes from not knowing. At the same time I understand the importance of educating ourselves on many perspectives. So far I see a lot of partisanship based on nationality.

The survival biases present in this war are so strong that they appear on this forum frequently. The knee jerk reaction you get when trying to understand a radically different worldview is people doubting your motives and agenda. Once I start to understand someone's worldview I will realize that from their point of view they are the good guy. In this case Leo starts to sound like he has an agenda when he argues that in Putin's worldview he is good and it provokes many negative reactions. This is a common source of misunderstanding in politics because the propaganda we are exposed to makes it hard to imagine that someone isn't acting out of cartoonishly evil intentions. Even in a Jihadists worldview they believe that they are freedom fighters in opposition to American imperialism and defeating the economic parasite will be for the glory of God. Life is not a battle of good versus evil. Life is a battle of good versus good. This reality is very difficult for ego to accept because it is easy to justify killing people when we think they are terrorists, crazy dictators, Nazis, or whatever else. Knowing the deeper truth that everybody is good does not serve the egos survival agenda, but it will raise our capacity for love dramatically, silence our judgements, and humble us.

@Hatfort if the war is framed in terms of control over has and oil, then Russia has some moderate success. By controlling areas with gas reserves in Donesk And Luhansk Russia has made some clear progress. Although the propaganda claims it is about denazifying Ukraine, this is absurd and requires the total annexation of all of Ukraine. This was attempted in the beginning of the war but Ukraine repelled the attack on Kyiv. The scale of the objectives have since been cut down significantly. I'd rather not speculate on who blew up the pipes and the rail roads. The reality is that I don't know and it can easily become the basis of conspiracy theories. By the way there is a major update. Russia just launched 83 missiles at Kyiv. The Ukrainian air defense shot down a little more than half of them, but their defenses were still overwhelmed. The target was mostly civilian infrastructure. This is a waste if these missiles are not being used in military targets. We will see soon if Russia plans to follow this up with another attack on Kyiv or not. Other than that the war is presently a stalemate with the stabilized defense lines by both sides.

After gaining a lot of ground, the Ukrainian forced have begun the liberation of Luhansk with a few villages remaining in the Karkiv region. There were massive losses in the counter attack near Kherson on both sides, but the lines appear to be stabilizing after the Russian battalions blew up a bridge. The Ukrainian army continues to struggle with kamikaze drones. Their air defenses have managed to shoot down 60% of them, but the damage left by the drones is still devastating. The United States is partially responsible for this because it sold microchips to China unaware that China was passing the chips to Iran to build drones to send to Russia. The United States can stop it by not giving China anymore micro chips. Recently, a major target has been hit. This is the Crimean bridge that took Russia there years to build. Somehow a train exploded, destroying the bridge along with a major Russian supply line. Because Russian troops often struggle to get the proper supplies to wage the war, there is potential for a mutiny. The morale is constantly sinking as commanders abandon their troops and Ukraine regains much of its territory. I'm not worried about the potential for nukes. This is covered in another thread.

@Revolutionary Think I was literally about to send that video. Basically, NATO is so vastly superior to the Russian army that it would be suicidal to start a nuclear war. The threat of nuclear war is a common talking point just to provoke the kind of panic we are seeing right now. It's never a good idea to actually do it. If people think you might, then that helps to manipulate them and provoke concessions. North Korea did this several times already to force other countries to send aid. If Americans are scared because they think Kim Jong Un is crazy, then they want to get out of the situation immediately. In reality, Kim Jong Un is smarter and he knows how to manipulate other countries masterfully. North Korea must do this because they are constantly on the brink of total collapse, famine, and mass death. In either case the main goal is to make people scared of nuclear war without actually doing it.

@Tefikos Putin keeps bringing up the possibility of using tactical nukes. He bluffed like this several times, but many speculate that he will do this out of desperation. The fate of mankind can be shaped dramatically by this war. For example, the relationship between Russia and the European union is pushing mankind toward green energy. This is an unintended consequence of the invasion, but Europe does not want to be dependent on Russian gas and oil. Meanwhile it appears that Putin's true motives are to control the oil and gas reserves in the Donbas region. All other motives like denazifying Ukraine, stopping the expansion of NATO, or liberating Russian territory make no sense whatsoever. NATO is expanding because of the invasion as Finland and Sweden switched their positions on neutrality. The stated political objectives have clearly failed on every level. If the war is over oil and gas, then Russia might have a chance because they still control the donbas region of Ukraine. Breaking news. The Ukrainian forces have finally broken through Russian defenses North East of Kherson. The next week or so may bring serious questions to the 25,000 troops in the region. Although Ukraine is seizing a lot of territory, it is not inflicting as many losses on Russian troops as it needs to in order to compensate for its smaller army. The morale is high, but there is a chance that Ukraine will be overrun by the sheer number of conscripts being thrown into the meat grinder. They hold out some hope as they capture Russian vehicles, forcing the army to use older, less optimal models. Ukraine argues that the troops will be poorly equipped And their battle hardened army will outperform the conscripts who don't have up to date weapons, don't have food, don't have first aid kits, and don't want to be in Ukraine as Putin's propaganda falls apart in the eyes of Russian civilians who are increasingly skeptical of his lies.