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This is probably the most comical nonsensical title of a post I’ve come across yet? but I love a bit of humour and this done the trick??

Bollocks to this lad? I’m more interested in awakening and living this life knowing it rather than awakening and finding out I’ve just drowned in the bath???

Was a good watch this. Funny to see sort of 2 ends of the spectrum discussing the topic. Credit to the scientist fella at least he’s listening and trying to take on board guru’s views. But it’s clear he just doesn’t get it, at least he can admit that. Most scientists just write these things off in an instant. I’m not convinced about this karmic bubble type thing he’s on about though that’s something that would need validation from myself, like all things I guess. At the moment I just don’t see that, maybe though, but for now I ain’t got that. I couldn’t help but laugh at the blokes reactions though, and could only imagine what it would have been like if it was leo on the other end of that call instead, let the scientist babble on about the brain and then see his mystified dumbstruck reaction if leo just then turned round to him and said you don’t have a brain’? and proceeded to rattle off his why you don’t have a brain episode to him. I think I’d probably collapse and cry with laughter at the science guys mortified reactions. Would be humorous to say the least

I think it’s just a state of confusion. I’ve no doubt it’s possible in altered states to tap into other lives, past ones future ones. But only because you have been, will be, are all of them. Every single last one of them down to the finest detail. I think confusion arises from these people tapping into 1 in particular, then/or 2, 3, 4, 5 and so on to however many they become aware of in this past life regression field that people do by altering their state. But not being conscious that they’re actually God, and all lives, they interpret it as they have only experienced a particular number of lives however many they come across. I think this creates all sorts of belief systems too, beliefs that will stem from this one particular belief of past lives. This is just my own particular angle on what might be going on here

The conclusion I’m coming to, or have come to, is that there is no soul. Not in the typical way people like to see anyway. As in like a spiritual energy body or what have ya that sits within the physical body, and exits the physical body upon death and enters a new realm or dimension or whatever other places people like to associate with. The soul to me is just another story of the ego mind, to give it some sort of relief type thing because it knows it’s going to die, it creates a soul scenario where it can feel like it continues as the individual after death. Clinging onto survival to some degree, therefore creating such nonsense as the soul in this manner. It’s a nice story for the ego mind. I used to believe in such things as I used to regularly astral project, infact I did last night accidentally. This gives rise to the belief as you feel as though your an energy body leaving the physical and ghosting around in a less physical more ghostly like plane. I can see why people get stuck with this idea. But I’m not having it anymore. The deeper and deeper I go with this work the more I can see this is just more projection, no different to how you project this physical world, but with different limitations. For me it’s just God/you/I tricking itself that it’s a soul, in the exact same way it tricks itself it a human being. There are no individual souls in the same way there really are no individual beings. Although it certainly seems like there is. It’s a good way to reference though when talking about deep within you, as in when you say the likes of deep within your soul, or something touched your soul or whatever phrases people use. It’s just God. I’m happy to be corrected by anyone. But for me the notion of a soul is nothing other than pure bullshit in its typical individualised form

I listen to mikes Hotboxin podcast regularly. He’s a very intelligent guy, a lot more intelligent than people give him credit for. His historical knowledge on a very wide range of subjects is quite astounding to be honest with you. He regularly talks of his toad experiences and has no doubt gone very deep into consciousness. But from the way he talks about these experiences, Mike doesn’t know what consciousness actually is. He’s done the toad with no prior work into consciousness. He basically just blasted himself in there and gets completely overwhelmed. He’s talked about how he died, he became god during these trips. But yet he still doesn’t realise he is god. He consistently talks about god as if gods out there somewhere, as if we will be judged at the end of our days, that type thing. Tyson is absolutely laced with beliefs, even though he’s had a number of direct experiences using the toad. Maybe he knows in some way, but his ego definitely is not accepting whatever he was subjected to during his trips. He no prior insight to what consciousness is, so basically when he trips he just doesn’t have a clue what’s actually going on. He seems like someone who definitely would get there if he found or came across the right guidance. Actualized.org would be perfect for Tyson. And he seems the type of guy who would do the work and take it seriously. He’s clearly a masterful learner, to learn the boxing skills he did, with his early background and that deserves nothing but respect. And as I say his historical knowledge is right up there. Infact, that is one podcast I’d like to see leo on, as Tyson would be nothing but highly interested in what he had to say. But in all likelihood he’s not even aware of Leo. Leo being mikes teacher, now that’s be a story? unless Tyson decided to knock him out one day when Leo’s trying to get through to him by calling him a donkey?. Anyway either way, mike Tyson is not enlightened. Far from it. And unfortunately if he ever did become totally awake, and decided to make it public, they’d probably lock him up in a mental institute claiming he’d gone mad and thinks he’s god, because of the unfortunate way he’s been perceived down the years. Because that’s the way of the current world

This exact thing happened with myself. My face morphing, young face, old face, different weighted face, healthy looking, unhealthy looking in a multitude of different ways, how I’d look if I hadn’t looked after myself, how I’d look if I’d looked after myself even better than I have. Every single possible emotion on my face I could imagine, from happy to sad, from genuine to just downright evil looking as if I was one horrible piece of shit. My eyes going through grief as if I was dealing with a parents passing or something, eyes glowing with pride, and many more, to many to list. Just everything. All whilst I knew my expression wasn’t actually changing I was just staring relaxed into the mirror. I looked at my arms and I could see them altering in size and shape, sometimes thin, sometimes as they are, and sometime more muscular. I realised at this point that all these different expressions and bodily transformations were already there. All’s I’m doing from one moment to the next is morphing, but in reality it’s not one moment to the next it’s all actually in this one singular timeless moment. I began to watch the movement of my hands as a began to wave them, seeing them move through like a squiggly sort of transparent sort of like noodley thing all around me. Only way I can describe was like a plate of noodles or something. I walked around my apartment in this manner, observing how I wasn’t actually moving anywhere, just morphing, and everything around me morphing in this one moment, not actually within a time frame. I come to the conclusion that this was just me wandering around in infinity, it was beautiful. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong on this. But this was the realisation I came to. And that everything I ever see, everywhere I ever go, is really nowhere, just morphing in this one and only eternal sort of spot. The only place there is, which didn’t even actually seem like a place, just seemed like nowhere in the middle of nowhere, but everywhere if you get me. I realised well I clearly just morph into whatever when i identify with being someone, as in right now I’m identifying with being this particular form. That’s about as far as I got. I look forward to expanding this n this just finding an absolute understanding of it all, the mechanics of it, the how’s the whys you know, just everything, whatever it may bring. Got to get to the bottom of reality. But on a finishing note, I didn’t actually turn into anybody else, I didn’t turn into Hitler? although I realised how I could be him. I’m glad I read this post as it’s fantastic to hear the same or very similar experiences. Helps me confirm I ain’t going around the bend? unless we both are hahaha

Trump is full of shit, shit shit and more shit. Never have I heard so much drivel drool out of a mans mouth. Especially a leader of one of, if not, probably the most powerful nation on the planet. You would think that with me being from the UK that this wouldn’t be of any interest to me. But it is, as the UK kiss America’s ass and without siding with America as we always do, then the UK is actually weak as piss. No doubt most brits would claim otherwise, as most people I know do, believe we’ve got more about us than we actually have. But it’s not the case. We need America, and we need it ran well, not by an idiot like Donald trump

? I don’t think he was quite after a riddle of guru type nature? just ya basic good old down to earth answer @diamondpenguin yes mate you can see mars with the naked eye. No idea what it looks like through a telescope probably pretty cool with a decent one ??

Yea I guess your right I’d have been better just chilling out and taking it in for what it is. But it gave me more of a feeling that I just wanted to give good old sting there a good crack round the chops ?. Never mind ey @Galyna and certainly don’t be apologising for anyone’s reaction to the movie, it’s not your fault stings a donkey hahaha. It’s good you enjoyed it ?

@danilofaria This is a dreadful program. I turned it off half way through it was a painful watch of people who have no fucking idea what so ever. Actual idiots when it comes to the use of psychedelics. Serious materialistic paradigm going on with these people. It’s a terrible advert for psychedelics but then it’s mainstream so what’s to be expected other than what it is. It’s half the reason why the general population have literally no chance of ever waking up

@Leo Gura I’m finding myself a tad confused. I do not claim to know the answer to this what so ever but hopefully in time after deeper awakenings I can clarify this. But as your creating them, are you saying that everyone you look at is basically not actually got anything going through their mind, until you actually interact with them, and even then, there’s still nothing going through their mind it’s just actually your own mind talking back to you? Although the majority are unaware of this. Which still wouldn’t add up because that majority are all my/your own projection anyway. So basically I can see people in the distance at work here and hear them talking to each other. But in reality is that just me I’m hearing and they are actually over there in the distance as my projection and basically just empty heads ?. Which infact I would find pretty hilarious if I’m honest. I really thought I was getting this shit down after what I feel we’re 4-5 real deep awakenings on lsd. That’s all that’s available to me at present so I’m trying to go where I can with that. But last few days my thinking mind has lead me into a state of confusion rather than the clarity I thought I held? not in a bad way, I feel great, just my ego mind has begun questioning itselsf, or that’s how it feels anyway haha

@Florian no harm in looking into it. It can happen spontaneously so at least if you looked into it you’d be more prepared for what’s to come. Because experiencing what you say you have there with the sleep paralysis and vibrations, the very next step will be the sensation of leaving the body, so without even trying, your edging closer and closer to an obe anyway. Best to be prepared than to just exit and shit yaself?. Remember though, if you do try to proceed, this is all mind, as much as it feels like a soul or whatever leaving the body. Good luck with whatever you do and whatever follows next ??

This is sleep paralysis and the vibrational stage that proceeds astral projection. You can train your mind to help you project from that position you were in of the trembling/vibrations, so when you try to move, instead of being stuck, you will move, literally get up out of your body with an astral body, pretty much like a ghost body. And you will be out, in another sort of realm. Like a more subtle dream like version of this world. You can fly you can go anywhere your mind can muster up once you’ve got the hang of it. You can also end up places you don’t really fancy being at all. Can be quite disturbing at first as you will encounter entities, human like, alien like, all sorts of weird things. It’s amazing what you find you hold in your subconscious. And all’s this whilst laying in your bed a sleep. Very much like lucid dreaming but there’s a different feel about it, it’s hard to describe. This can feel ultimately real, as real as your everyday waking life, but a bit more dreamy. As real as it seems though, it is all just still imagination, projection of your own mind. But a very interesting one to say the least, and you can do it all without the use of psychedelics or any substance, just by going to sleep but learning how to remain aware. I spent about a year exploring this state of consciousness, very intriguing. But what I found was that people seem to get stuck on the idea, and the way it manifests seems to trick those that do it that this is their destination when they die. I’ve come to realise that this is not the case, and is just more projection, of this particular life your living right now. Great fun nonetheless though I’d advise anyone to have a pop at it. If interested I used ryan croppers techniques to get me there I found on YouTube if that’s any use to you, and it took me about a month to 6 weeks to nail it before I had my first experience. I won’t lie I shit myself at first, but then it became a great experience as I worked out the ins and outs of what was actually going on. Now I don’t try, it’ll just happen spontaneously from time to time I’m not fussed about it anymore, but I make the most of it if it does happen. It’s an area of consciousness that’s interesting, but your not going to get to the depths of reality through it, that’s far and away beyond astral projection

Exactly the reason I think Leo going on Rogan’s podcast would be a pointless exercise. As to the type of character in general, not all but in general that are listeners of it, would likely listen to what Leo says about being god and all that, then runaway thinking and believing that they are god cus some guy on the joe rogan podcast said it. Ego’s running round believing they’re god, without doing any work, having absolutely no idea what consciousness is. That’s no good for anybody to be honest. Yea there may be a minority that took Leo seriously and begin a dedicated spiritual journey type thing, but they’d be in the minority. I think anyone who’s serious about the nature of reality will find Leo themselves, or, and other spiritual teachers, because they’re genuinely interested and are searching anyway. Just a personal opinion, but from where I stand, Leo and the joe Rogan podcast don’t really mix ??‍♂️

Rogan is asking the questions. That’s all good. But his best bet would just be to sign up to actualized.org, take on board Leo’s teachings, do the work, and get those questions answered ?. It seems he’s currently of the belief these things can’t be answered, yet they can

@SoonHei all of u. Gobsmacked. Great to see u all?

@Leo Gura wow. It was nice to see you leo. As me. No more words needed. Incredible. Thank you?

Interesting as I had a lucid dream few nights ago. I became lucid as I looked at my hands and noticed my fingers sort of melt. I was dreaming I was in an area up the road from my home and was stunned when exploring this dreamscape at the accuracy of the environment to my everyday experience of it. I wandered around and touched walls and objects and was intrigued as they felt so solid. I looked down at my dream body and watched as I freely moved my legs to walk. I was of understanding that I had imagined this whole environment, and a self to explore it. I decided that I’d try to astral project from this dream body. So I put this dream body to sleep and astral projected out of it. And I was now in my own living room. I realised I’ve now created another body, an astral body from my dream body, and a completely new environment within the dream. Like a dream within a dream. After a bit of playing around I went back to my dream body and awoke, but awoke into the first dream I was having, then awoke again into this everyday waking reality. So basically realised that that I could imagine body after body and environment after environment in my dreams. It became so clear that as this waking state is ordinarily my top level of awareness 99% of the time, I could from this level, or when I sleep anyway imagine and create what seems like lower levels of reality i.e. dreams, or maybe not lower, maybe just different, I don’t really know,then it’s pretty obvious that this level of reality and self sort of thing, are being imagined from an even higher level of consciousness. Which I’ve actually experienced through the use of lsd, that I am imagining all of this. But as to the degree of exactly how I’m doing this I need to trip deeper. So what I feel the lucid dream done for me was give me more confirmation of the fact as Leo says, this is all imaginary

@Nate0068 @Victor Mgazi thanks very much these views are intriguing to me and very much appreciated ??

I had an lsd experience couple of months ago. Without going into too much detail about the whole trip, the main aspect of it was my ego death, and how I realised I’d imagined everything, my whole life, who I am, who other people are, the narrative my life had took, all those sorts of things that come along with it. I had this overwhelming certainty that I was the only thing in existence. But not me, as in the character, the sort of thing that was behind the character, this thing what I actually am. Which certainly wasn’t a person. It was just like an invisible imaginative thing, that seemed like nothing at all, just empty imagination. I ended up praising myself, but not me as a character, this imaginative thing, I couldn’t believe how clever I was actually was, to completely trick myself, that my whole life had been real. I was saying things like fuck your good, your so fucking good so clever to have done this. Then the thing that’s really got me now looking back, ego intact, is that in the moment of the trip, I was astounded to wonder, thinking how many times have I done this to myself, and the answer was infinite times, and that I’ll do it infinitely more times, over and over and over again. That I would live this particular life infinite times in infinite particular ways. That kind of made sense. But as I say now looking back, as my ego tries to mentally piece things together, I wonder if this is false, like a false awakening type thing, as in my ordinary state of consciousness I can’t get out of the thinking that this keeps my in some kind of loop, as if living this particular life infinitely in infinite different ways, how can I possibly be everybody else too, if I’m infinitely living this one? I understand that infinite intelligence would have a way around this, of course it would, as is infinitely intelligent. But I havnt reached that. So I just wonder if I’m on the right path here, is this a true awakening to some extent, and just need to go deeper, or am I somehow deluding myself and is false? It would be great if I could get a response from Leo on it. But of course any opinions from anyone are very much appreciated ??

Brilliant that!

I can only say that the deeper Leo is going the more interesting it’s all becoming. It depends on what your after getting out of it. Personally I’m about getting to the depths of reality and finding out just exactly what is going on here. So his the more he helps me understand consciousness the more it resonates with me. It’s making it easier for me to decipher just what’s going down in my own trips as I try to go deeper myself and work out just what the hell is going on here. Whether that’s comfortable to my ego or not. If it’s just a a bit of happiness and a more positive outlook on life your after then I can understand why the newer content would have no relevance to that type of person. From my perspective I can see why he promotes the psychedelics to reach these levels of consciousness because as he’s stated many times now, your just not gonna meditate your way into these states, or I can certainly resonate with that statement anyway, I would have no way of ever meditating my way into the states that psychedelics can take you. So personally, I’m all for the way Leo has gone and is going. Although I understand why others might not be

I’m not going to claim in any way that I know what’s going on with this virus. But I am going to suggest that the reactions to it are so fucking ego oriented it’s unreal. I’ve awoken to a certain degree, not amazingly deep or anything like that. But I have had ego death, I have gone deep enough to realise everything is imaginary including myself, you and whoever else is reading this. I genuinely cannot wait to hear Leo’s next podcast/video that talks about this. Because knowing that you have gone so much deeper than myself and most others with reality, your views on this will be very much appreciated. At the end of the day we’re all playing catch up with you that’s why we follow you in the first place. I’ve my own thoughts on how the ego mind has took this world over last few weeks. But once Leo comes back from his retreat, there’s potentially the greatest video/podcast he’s ever released ?

@Arcangelo ????? can’t argue with that lad ?. Although I know it’s not but people seem to be acting in a way that it is, it actually humours me. Can’t deny that I feel things have gone to the extreme. To point I feel it’s an absolute joke?