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I’ve pondered on this walking through walls thing a lot in the past and I ran into some paradoxes but for myself I did come to a conclusion that has personally satisfied myself. No I can’t walk through walls😂 but I have in many lucid dreams and astral projection. That aside, during an awakening trip once I completely stopped time, the universe brought to a complete stand still, from my perspective. Now nobody else would have experienced this stand still along with myself. My totally elevated state of consciousness enabled this to be the case for me. And as it was also completely unbelievably solipsistic then there was no other to experience it anyway. That being said, the point being if I actually became conscious enough to walk through a wall, then anybody else would not be able to see it, not from their limited ordinary state of consciousness. And vice versa, if Leo or anybody claimed to myself that they had become conscious enough at some point and they had infact walked through a wall then I would not be at a sufficient enough level of consciousness to visibly see them walk through a wall. My limited state does not allow for me to walk through walls, or even see anybody else walk through a wall. Even a recording just would not work. Because in such a state whatever that might be like, once someone returned from that state to an ordinary state the ordinary states individual is not going to see anything other than a recording of a solid consistently physical world. I’ve read salvia trip reports where people have said became part of a wall, stuck in the wall, as the wall. But no recording would show this. It is a very paradoxical situation. It’s not a logical conclusion. It even sounds very fantastical, fantasy land. But given i already understand through direct experience that reality is paradoxical you can not escape paradox if you delve deep enough into your mind and reality. For me personally this has satisfied me as a conclusion as to why I can’t personally walk through walls, nor can I ever see anybody else walk through a wall, even if they claimed to have done at some point. It all stems down to my very own state of consciousness. Which ordinarily is far to low

@Leo Gura I know you said a while back you wouldn’t show anymore live awakening videos due the backlash or derogatory responses or something along those lines. But just out of interest have you ever set up the camera and recorded yourself whilst then awakening to this alien consciousness? Then actually ran it back through to yourself and watching from your standard state of consciousness observing that and the sorts of ways you may be trying to explain it to yourself during the awakening with what your saying to yourself and how your acting or whatever it is you may be doing in that state?

The answer to this is a resounding NO. Consciousness is the creator of all dreams. Consciousness is all there is

I feel this recent topic of relative vs absolute is sending some people into fantasy land. Then again, this is Gods fantasy land🤷🏻‍♂️

That 0 is identical to infinity. And God is infinity. From my experiences, or whatever it is you want to call it, but that’s the way I’m framing it here anyway, it’s not like a line that starts at zero and goes up and up type thing, it’s more like a circle where whatever point you want to start the zero, is also infinity. It circles back round. But even then that’s all a crock of shit because I’m using lines and circles and that’s just not it. At the end of the day you just have to awaken at some point to realise, and then you’ll understand why it can’t be described to you. Not even Leo with his tremendous delivery through his videos can truly describe it. That’s why he teaches to help lead people to it themselves, because that is the only way

One things for sure.. you wouldn’t have a clue what was going on. It would be so vastly more developed technology wise that you’d be like a toddler attending university

Amazed I don’t ever remember seeing that interview. An interesting take from that is that then Leo has taken the position that many of his forum members are at right now. It’s clear to see that from that position he was then to where he is now he does have many differing views. Which is fantastic for followers of actualized because it’s a great example of not just taking things on as a belief even though he holds Raston in such high regard and has the utmost respect for him. Parroters of Leo take note!

I usually become lucid in night dreams through the hands. But they never turn into anything, the fingers just seems to shrink. But other than that they’re always a hand. There’s many things you can focus on, numbers are good. Or words, try to read and the letters will jump around or words change into other words. But all these things you must focus for a period of time, a good 5 to 10 seconds on a particular point. In a dream very much like most peoples waking life, your going around very invested in the narrative without stopping and focusing too much on any one thing. But when you do, you can become lucid very easily in your nightly dream. I remember years ago also Leo said he would just spend 20 minutes a day looking at his hand. He urged us to do it, over and over, just stare at the hand in a type of meditation. He said watch what happens you may be very surprised what happens. I done this religiously for a while but never ever got to the bottom of what this realisation may have been. After a period of time I could get the sort of swirl you get when staring at anything for a bit concentrated, like very mild effects of the visuals on lsd. Which is one of the triggers I can have to help trigger an awakening on a trip. The visual aspect. But nowhere near to the extent of an lsd trip. I’ve always wondered what that surprise might be. But I do not know. Unless that’s it and I’m expecting more

Refreshed and ready to go 👍🏻

And there is your error

Wait until you see no difference between a dog shit and your cousins. Now that will blow your mind 😂

You know if Leo delved into this field with a bit of serious determination there’s no doubt in my mind he’d pull it off. Pretty quickly too, within a month. Then, if he decided to incorporate it into his teachings it would be a small part of one video involving different states that consciousness can produce. It’s worth about 10/15 minutes tops of talking about when it comes to teachings about actual awakening. There’s no doubt he’d realise exactly what astral projection is through a few lengthily experiences with it. Probably short ones. If by the 0.01% chance he was fooled into believing the nonsense the likes of Tom Campbell and other serious projectors think they’ve found by doing it, ‘the other side’ and what happens upon and after death experience, and he spoke about and taught this stuff regularly, as if it is or has anything to do with awakening and god realisation, then it would be such a backward curve in teachings it would be like back tracking on his deconstructing the myth of science series to now claim that science is infact absolute and consciousness is secondary and comes from the brain. Good little thing to explore for a bit. But to get wrapped up in it is a bad move if it’s discovering what you actually are and what reality is, what’s really going on here, that you actually want

There is absolutely nothing you have to change or refrain from to astral project other than learn some techniques over a short period of time, get yourself into that body asleep mind awake state and use your imagination from there to seemingly lift yourself out of your body. A fantastic imaginary illusion within the imaginary dream of life. Some of you people muster up a great load of shit as to why something can or can not be done. It’s a mind set and that is it

Astral projection is just games still within the dream. You’re not finding out the nature of reality through astral projection I’m afraid. Alls you find is one of the things you can do within the dream. I accomplished it easily within a month following some dudes course on how to do it. It was fun and eye opening. But it will confuse you about the nature of reality if you’re seeing it as ‘the other side’. When I have full on awakenings astral projection is seen through completely as a complete joke and game I’m playing just as a dream, a lucid dream, and even my entire waking life. It’s like if you’re a musician who can only play the guitar, then you learn to play the drums, and then the piano. You’re just learning and discovering different aspects and possibilities within the dream. Full truth awakening and god realisation is where it’s at if you truly want to understand reality. And astral projection is not that

To be honest each time I’ve awoken, through psychedelics may I add. But each time, when that total awakening occurs, the whole world, the whole universe stops. All that is around me, or seemingly around me completely collapses and falls apart. It seems so outrageous. But it’s completely true. Nobody else awakens, because what everybody else once seemed to be pretty much just disappear, as nothing other than the complete and total imagination of my own mind. On the flip side you could say that everyone else or the whole world awaken at this point. But it doesn’t seem like that to me, although you could interpret it in that way. You could say now everyone is awake, because everyone is you, and you are awake, so the seeming everyone else is seen through, so transparent. But that’s you just being transparent to yourself. It all just falls apart, so there is just you awake, and nothing else, other than you, and everything you’ve made up, is exactly that, complete make up. I can’t say for other people, because in my current default state there is other people. But when I awaken, they’re fucking gone, including you, including my family, absolutely everyone. So this response seems like a pile of crap to be honest. Who am I even responding to. I know from awakenings it’s totally myself. But then here I am in my default state somehow thinking someone is on the other end. It’s crazy. But if I had to bet my life on it, I’d say no one else awakens when you awaken, because there is no one else, as much as it seems that there is. And what life am I betting on? An imaginary one! So you find yourself in a bit of a loop. A strange loop. So here I am, here we are🤷🏻‍♂️. Is what it is

It’s because we’re intrigued by what is going on. It just so happens to be God. These people which is most people that don’t wonder or don’t care and are just getting on with life as you say, do that because they think they know what’s going on. They believe in the material world, they think science figured it all out and have just taken on board as an ultimate truth that everything is as it seems. They’ve tricked themselves so very well they don’t even understand it’s a possibility that what they think is going on is not what’s going on. They are completely locked in. Which means God is pulling off the intended trick on itself just beautifully. The few like ourselves won’t be fooled by ourselves quite so easily. So here we are

Good this. Unfortunately her ego has turned it into a horror show for herself. When infact it’s the greatest thing

It’s just the way it has to be love🤷🏻‍♂️ don’t fret. It is what it is. All good 😊

Oh yea I triped last night. That’s just one of the biggest take aways. Seems plausible. I just don’t want to trick myself👍🏻

One question Leo, if you could be so nice to answer😂. Is behind everyone eyes completely empty? Other than what you project to them? Then that’s what appears? As though it’s them? But actually it’s you🤦🏻‍♂️?

Yea but even in lucid dreams, I’ve had more than I care to remember, unbelievably lucid, you still don’t know how the people, houses, places, and whatever else is there in the environment are being created by you, and why even these things at all. You still feel very local to the body you are in the dream, even when manage to change the environment within the dream. So for me this still wouldn’t be enough

Listen to Leo’s video part 3 of what is duality. Start at 46 minutes 35 seconds in. Listen for as long as you like from there. But listen to that particular section, until you get it! Until you genuinely get it!👍🏻

@Paradoxed 👍🏻

What are these Magic mushroom chocolate bars like? I’ve 2 3.5g bars. Not sure on what to take of them. I have had 5g of straight liberty cap magic mushrooms. Which was a bit fucking weird if I’m honest. But what comparison can I make with these bars of chocolate and judge a reasonable amount to eat? Any advice would be welcome thanks

YOU actually won’t die. In a sense you could say it’s like you watch your death. Like watching a death in a movie, or watching someone else what you think ‘actually’ die. Alls you’re doing is watching a death from a first person point of view. It’s not a problem. What you really are won’t die. What you’re identifying with will. Your mix up of your identity, is causing this issue. You are what’s aware of the body you think you are that’s dying, or dies. The awareness itself, not what it’s aware of. Yes you are that too, your it all, but what your talking about is just that constricted limited identity of your human body that your true self, ‘awareness’ is aware of. It’s genuinely not an issue. It just seems so. Awareness will become aware of being something else. So yes, that rat you see, that bird, snake, dog, ant, whatever animal or being you see, is just feeling like you, because it is you. The awareness in that thing, is just you, what you would be being that thing, if you were that thing. Also you are me being you, so I wouldn’t want to bullshit you would I. And vice versa, I am you being me. So we’re helping each other out here with this communication. But hey I am completely imagining you here, completely. So how does that work you may say?? Take some psychedelics and awaken before you die buddy and awaken to me. I’ve done it and awoken to you, so at this end it’s all good. We just need to tie up your end by the sounds of it and that strange loop of your end and my end being the exact same place forever and eternity will make absolute sense for you. Take care