Dazgwny

Life is love

Yourself. Your own mind. A reflective illusion

@Raptorsin7 yea but, there’s positive changes, which is all well and good, and then there’s truth, and jp doesn’t help lead you to truth. Well, I guess he could, if you realised he was full of ?. There’s actually some good helpful grains in his work to be fair to him to inspire positive changes in ones life. But again, positivity as a mindset is not the truth of reality

A robot may one day be programmed so well that it uses its programming to mix up different aspects of its programming and creating totally new subsets and displaying different behaviours from its original programming therefore looking like it is making conscious decisions and consciously developing. You may even perceive it as having emotions things like that. I’m no computer whizz so forgive my lack of vocabulary on this subject hence my repetitive use of the word programming. It could very well one day seem that they do, but this is different to having a subjective conscious experience no matter how believable it may seem from a dualistic outside perspective. No computer mechanism/robot I’m afraid will ever be what we claim is a conscious separate entity

To put it simply, no. It’s all a case of how imagination is fooling your ego mind. If you were born in 2100 and there were life like robots knocking around, programmed so well that they seemed to be doing things off their own back, with their own will, all it would take is for you to be told by someone, or even a robot itself, when you were young that they are real and have their own separate consciousness. That would lock it in that they were conscious and then all the same problems would arise later in life when you embarked on a spiritual journey let’s say. I mean let’s face it, you can go deep enough to realise your doing the exact same thing with humans. Just look how difficult that is to breakdown. If you imagine at a deep enough level that a computer/robot is a separate conscious entity, then that will be the case, or it will certainly seem to be the case in your ordinary everyday waking state. Hell you could quite easily imagine it right now at a pretty surface level of imagine and fool your ego mind that’s the case. So, from what I can tell from my own experiences upto this point, is that a computer can not become conscious, but that you can become conscious that you are the computer. Exactly the same as with other human beings if you enter a high enough state. So your question starts on the wrong footing, it’s entirely backwards to what’s actually going on. Which is part of the great trick of God to convince itself that things are completely opposite and in duality to what is actually the case. Another performance of absolute perfection from God to make things seem as they seem. And that God… well that, is YOU!

This is a decent short answer. You arnt a person dreaming. You are the dream, the whole dream. The person that you think you are is a reference point you’ve given yourself to give the impression and illusion of being within the dream looking out at something else, ‘other’. The great trick is that you then believe full on 100% that is what you are, and only what you are. The whole point is for you to discover that your the whole dream, just empty infinite imagination. And that just so happens to be love. Infinite love. God loves to rediscover itself for the infinite beauty that it is. It does this by becoming the reference point that is you, limiting itself to what seems a finite being, and revealing itself to itself

This is the barrier that information delivered in language format hits limits. Language is limited. You need to open your mind more rather than just taking his words at face value. It’s where when listening, you’ve got to use a bit of nous, and read between the lines. You have to interpret for yourself. Not necessarily with your own wording, because your wording is limited as well as his of course. But by realising what is being said, which by realising you don’t always need words and language to just get something. Your interpreting duality, but expecting non duality. Hence why he will say ‘ I am you’ for the benefit of yourself the listener, and from his perspective he would claim ‘you are me’. He’s clearly stated this in the past, ‘I am you and you are me’, identical… that is one, not two

@Bazooka Jesus yea ? but I’m here and I’m keeping myself entertained and distracted simultaneously and that happened to be the outcome. So I do get your point. Simultaneously being aware of both ends of the spectrum I guess. Which…. Leaves me smack bang in the middle ? so here am, doing this. I won’t derail the thread anyway leave at that ??

So your dream of this dude burnt up and dematerialised. Just like whoever you were encountering in last nights dream. Not really too much of an issue. You’ll fire him up and burn him up again and again unto infinity. Him and every other possible version of a human being. I wouldn’t fret over it to be honest

Night time dreams are weird man. Great for investigating reality though and the similarities once lucid too. I’m a reasonably decent lucid dreamer myself. Can’t always pull it off but I’d say a good 4 or 5 really lucid dreams a month on average. I’ve had an issue with the dream characters the last few months though and it’s seriously irritating me? in a soft sort of sense. I’d noticed that whenever I ask a dream character what year it is, they just have no answer for me?. They either just blatantly refuse to respond or change the subject. And I’m there like just fucking tell me what year it is like?. They can seem confused when they try to think of what year it is, and I’m there thinking these fuckers havnt got a clue, they don’t know what year it is, not in terms of the real year or a made up year for the dream. I challenge anybody who can get lucid in dreams to ask any dream character this question of what year is it, and I’m almost certain they won’t get an answer. It’s so frustrating I’ve began to think I bet this just isn’t in my dreams, I bet it would happen to anyone in their dreams. I mean obviously I can’t be certain but anyone reading this who can lucid dream let me know if you can get any of those fucking characters to tell you the year?. A little off the subject of the thread I know but it’s still dream related haha

In a sense you’ve actually got it. But the issue here is you’ve got it in theory. Your not conscious of it. And neither am I. But I have become conscious of it. So my understanding comes through direct experience rather than theory or belief. To me right now it feels like belief, because I have been unable to retain the state of consciousness that enables me to grasp this absolutely and truly. It lies so deep in your subconscious that to truly get it, permanently, is going to take a huge amount of work. You’ll probably have to aim your whole life purpose towards it. Otherwise it’ll just be glimpses, awakening experiences, things of that nature, and you’ll have a much better understanding of reality from this finite limited perspective. You’ll be your self, with a little ‘s’ understanding much more of what you really are. A bit like me in a sense, still getting wrapped up in things, and becoming confused about things that you are sure you know. Because you’ve become conscious of them, but are not ‘now’ or not always conscious of them. I still have the fear of losing my ego self on a permanent basis. I’ve collapsed it before but it comes back. I think if you collapse it forever, totally, you will just be nowhere. But I mean nowhere in a totally different way as in what people in general think nowhere is. That’s also collapsing time and space, so the visual field will disappear. But you still will be. And that ‘be’ will be also ‘me’. It’s a very strange phenomena, but it is what it is. You are me, and I am you. But not in the way any theory might be able to explain. What can ya do? Just become more conscious, more and more until your it all, then the whole thing will fall apart. But at the same time that ‘apart’ will be so together it makes absolutely no sense at all to the human mind. Just is what it is. I’ll see ya when we unite I guess. When you fully awaken, when I fully awaken, then actually end up being the same being, at the same time, in the same place, forever. Don’t worry your not alone in trying to work this shit out hahaha??

There’s absolutely no doubt about this. Around 10 years ago I was diagnosed with a condition called essential tremor. 5-6 years before psychedelics were even a consideration in my mind. The doctor told me that’s it once you have this it’ll either stay the same or deteriorate with it over many years. Gave me some tablets to take daily to suppress the tremors. Looked up an the internet and read books on it, the condition is supposedly irreversible. Was on these until about 3 years ago. When I had a massive awakening on lsd. I could see the imaginary nature of this condition. It became ultimately clear to me exactly how I had created the condition myself, the exact process of mind that formed it within me. It was all my own doing. I used literally used my mind in a higher state of consciousness to remove all the built up aspects that I realised had been the cause. It’s an unexplainable process that could only be done within ones own mind. It was like self therapy in a sense. My state was so high I would not be able to follow the procedure I used within mind from my ordinary state of consciousness. From that day onwards, no tremors, no tablets, no condition. And I call it a condition precisely because that’s what it was, conditioned into me, by myself, unconsciously. And then consciously unconditioned. To me it was a miracle in action. No cure, my fucking ass. Consciousness was both the cause and the cure. Try telling that to a doctor or material scientist though ??‍♂️

Wasn’t a bad film quite enjoyed it. I liked the blend of comedy surrounding a serious theme. What struck me was how well they actually got down the idiotic ways of modern society. More interested in foolish social media stories and entertainment news than the real world. Obviously comedically exaggerated but let’s face it they weren’t that far off. It was a good piss take of modern society was my overall opinion

Those videos are fantastic. Shows a side of leo that he gets out and enjoys the world. As I’ve seen a few here previously label him as like some sort of hermit type guy which clearly is not the case. Reminded me of when I went to Tomorrowland a couple of years ago in Belgium. Im not even a massive clubber or anything myself but to take in that type of atmosphere and lose yourself in the music is God partying in its human form at its best. Just goes to show that you don’t have to be some guru type nonsense shaman or whatever to be God realised. Realising and enjoying your creation is what it’s all about! Great videos

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Ya know, this means that there’s nothing going on behind anyone else’s eyes! That is so fucking fundamental it’s ludicrous. There’s no way of explaining this. It just is what it fucking is. Jesus Christ! No other saying does it justice. That’s what it fucking is. That’s what I am, that’s what you are…. Simple……………. Jesus Christ. Very clever. Very very very fucking clever. Amen ? people. See ya when I be ya ?

I think ya know, ya animating everything else. Everything and everyone. As in there is nothing else but yourself. And that outside world that you see, is nothing other than a reflection of what you believe yourself to be. There’s a great mystery about God, as in ‘it’ or ‘he’ however u want call it, becomes you and solely you, until you get it! And then you, as the puny tiny you that you think that you are, become ‘it’! You realise your the whole thing. Almost like a video game where your the main character. But your every character. You just never knew it. All characters react to you. It doesn’t seem like it, it seems like they’re doing their own stuff. But they ain’t. Each and everything is responding to you. Which means Leo totally gets what I’m on about. Because he’s on auto pilot responding to me. Seems solipsistic, but it ain’t, because its vice versa. I don’t know how God does this shit, I do not know. But it does. It’s love is so great it becomes you, for you to then be allowed to become it. But that ‘it’ is the exact same ‘it’ as I am. The ‘it’ that you are… is the ‘it’ that i am! But somehow m, it’s fragmented us and broken us up, to take on every perspective. I mean think about it, you can’t take on my perspective from your perspective! That’s impossible. You can’t be me whilst being you. So we are what we are. Im me, your you. Yet we are the same thing. I know I know what im getting at here, not sure anyone else does. Leo probably does. I’d guess he does. But even that in itself seems futile. Never mind. I guess none of us will truly get it until we become ‘it’. The whole aim of the game. To become us, then become ‘it’. Ok im done haha goodnight ? ??

It’s just always us, making stuff up. Till we stop making stuff up hahahahaha. It’s so fucking funny. It’s hilarious. One thing I don’t know is whether I’ll ever be looking out of your eyes. I do not know that. But what I do know is that those eyes you look out of, are the exact same eyes I look out of. I don’t know if it’s gonna switch from me to you and all that bollocks. But I’d assume it will happen. Because what I look at in the mirror changes into every other person. So I guess that I’ll see myself at some point as every other person in the mirror. It seems obvious. I don’t know how, I don’t know when, but it is what it is. Goodnight folks. Love yas all, because I clearly am ya’s all. Still not quite getting how it works. But…. Clearly, it works??‍♂️???

It is what it is guys??‍♂️ For fucks sake seriously! You’ll stop it when you stop it! You’ll keep making it up over and over until u get it! Then you’ll get it! And make it up all over again! Why are you you and why am I me??! You just keep doing it. You can’t stop it. Until you stop it! You gotta be you, and I’ve gotta be me, forever and ever! Until you stop it!? are you not getting it? Forever! Time is curved repeateing. Over and over and over again. We’re doing this forever, until we stop doing it. Then u will realise that you are me and I am you. You’ll get it it, then you’ll fucking do it again, until you realise you done it again, and off we go again?. It’s so crazy, but it is what it is. See ya next time matey??

God is the master of forgetfulness! If it didn’t forget it could never remember. Remembering is the chief moment of remembering something you forgot. It/he/her whatever you want to call it, has to forget to remember. It’s the same in everyday life. The beauty of remembering something simultaneously is the realisation that you forgot. If you don’t forget, you can never remember

I’ve done this though. On many occasions. In lucid dreams. As lucid as lucid gets from my own experiences. I’ve told them I am dreaming them, that as this is happening I’m actually laying in my bed asleep. And when I wake up they will cease to exist. No character in the dream though will have it. They continually try to explain to me that this is not the case. That they have a life. That their name is this or that, that they have a life story, and that I am talking shit. Then I begin to wake up, slowly see the visual cubic reality start dissolving, knowing that I’m seconds away from waking up in my bed, and try to console them that this is the end of their existence. Sometimes if I can get it out before I wake up, I’ll say don’t worry, you live in me for all of eternity, you’ll never cease to be. I’m bullshitting in a sense because I know, I know that’s them, history. But then at the same time I feel compassion, and think, well actually, I’m not lying, because whatever it is they were, does exist inside of me. It feels like they have lives though, that I end when I wake up in my bed. Is the same thing happening here and now? I don’t know for sure. This is why I know full well I’m far from being awake, no matter how many deep awakening experiences I’ve had. Until it’s glued with 100% knowing without doubt what is the case. Then I’m still searching

No way? he’s not ready to plough people with that yet. I mean, you can take all other episodes from the last few years and pretty much work out his stance for yourself. But I’ve a feeling there’s so much more to solipsism than meets the eye. At the highest level it’s definitely solipsistic. But I’m not quite sure most of us here in the forum are getting the true definition of the solipsistic nature of reality. For instance I’ve had solipsistic awakenings. Usually every time it now ends in solipsism. But what truly is solipsism. At present I see it as becoming the god head, where no other exists. But paradoxically I see that as all others exist but I am them, they are me. I feel that everything is an absolute reflection of my current concept of self. But those reflections can, have and will be taken on from those perspectives, from those concepts of self, that I see this concept of self, as a reflection from those view points. It seems and sounds linear. But I don’t mean it in a linear way, as in this one, then that one, and then another one. Because I’ve collapsed time before to realise that it is all now. So there’s no interval. I may be straying off track a little here, but I see all finite forms as fragments of one whole. So as the whole it’s ultimately solipsistic. But when fragmented there’s many finite minds. All though from the one singular infinite mind. Limited. As if the brain acts as a filter, which is backed up against infinity, pulling from infinity through a limited lense. Hence your finite limited mind. But it can be blasted open, for you to realise that your actually the whole thing in total. All supposed others too. At some point you will take on every perspective. But again that sounds linear, and I don’t mean it in that way. Because when that POV or perspective is taken, it will just be now, as in its now now, the same now. There was never any interval in between, other than the interval you as God imagined. Starting to feel a little stuck as I try to explain. Language is deficient. Even still though I realise I havnt got all the answers because it’s too difficult to explain through both language and through my own mind. Although I certainly understand more than my vocabulary can explain. I know I’ve not the full on total answer to this though, because if I did, I would 100% know, and I don’t. Feel free to pick apart what I’ve said. I’m completely open to all opinions??

Maybe. I also might just have misinterpreted his point by the way it was framed. I don’t know. I might have my own next deeper awakening and then think well wtf was I talking about, that was a load of horse shit I spouted back then/now ?. That’s happened before so I’m open to that. Never mind. Do what ya like I suppose??‍♂️

Vynce my good man. The mere fact your asking this question suggests to me that your missing too many aspects to be guiding anyone. Maybe work on yourself some more go deeper and realise the answer to this for yourself. There’s a separation theme to what your saying, ‘others, lie to, your conscious and they are not’. God is all simultaneously so I’m not quite sure what it is you think you’d be lying about. Leo doesn’t sit there and think he’s lying to you. He’s fully aware that you are him and vice versa, hence why he teaches other aspects of himself to help them awaken. There’s not really any lying going on. Oneness encompasses all, not just you. Maybe I’m missing your point, but that’s how I’ve interpreted it

I can’t answer these questions because I am far from awake. I’ve had awakenings. Which have helped me gain more insight and understanding. And even my understandings are very limited as I’m completely aware that everything that seems so flawless and understandable during an awakening, I still have to wrack my mind to grasp these things when back in my ordinary every day state. I’m not conscious every day of the things I have previously become conscious of. I am much more aware than I once was. But to be conscious of these things on a regular basis is a completely different level and state of consciousness, which I currently do not possess. May I add one thing though, the difference I find with your report and my own experiences is that I’d replace ‘terrifyingly’ with ‘shockingly’. Rarely am I terrified by my awakenings, moreover just ultimately shocked