Spiral Wizard

@Leo Gura ‘truth is antithetical to human survival and social organization’ quote from your new post about why the lower mind is untruthful. I see your point and I’d like to offer a few potentially more expanded perspectives for consideration. It may be true that it is partly in conflict with survival depending on how narrowly you define it but not with human evolution and its fruition, which includes its annahilation (on various levels) through truth and also rebirth into greater consciousness. There is never just death. Death and Life are two sides of the same coin. I may be leaning myself far out of the window here but I’d dare to say that Truth & Love are actually the only non-things which can make social organisation more effective. Truth is more wholistic, inclusive, efficient, effective, and interconnected. It’s litterly the driving force of evolution. Tom Campbell from my big TOE also talkes about this a lot with his lower and high entropy model. It explains how Love litterly is higher organisation & integrated complexity. Of course, the ego thinks it makes something more effective through lying, corruption, exploitation, etc. BUT only in the short term from a very narrow perspective, which is not the truth, the truth is always the whole and that includes all consequences, including long term effects which is where truth wins, always. You also talked about this, explaining how over time the infinite balancing forces of the universe always balance each other out to perfection. Lastly, contemplate that there actually is no higher and lower perspective AT ALL. What is actually closer to the truth (more accurate) is to say a contracted vs expanded perspective. Alternatively we may also use narrow/partial/naive vs inclusive/wholistic/wise but contracted vs expanded already (visually as well) shows that an expanded perspective includes the contracted one. It may sound like a word game but it’s not just a word game. High and low inevitably imply value judgements for most minds, which is why so many ego’s weaponize spiral dynamics and spirituallity as a whole. So I’d say deeming human survival and human organisation as ‘lower mind’ is an over generalization and not nuanced enough. People won’t be pointed to the Beauty and Love of integrated and relevant insight. It’s a missed chance to point to a truth you may not have fully embodied for yourself: Gentle, loving, and graceful living. This includes me as well, of course. Otherwise, you wouldn’t trigger me (no matter how subtle). I’m not a saint, at least, for the time being. But based on my experience contracted and expanded perspectives are much closer to the embodied truth I observe and live out. It’s obvious that resistance (to pain) = contraction = denial = ignoring = ignorance = naive = delusion = self deception = corruption = illusion = suffering = destruction = etc. all go hand in hand. Whereas awareness = relaxation = surrender = insight = energy = clarity = honesty = integrity = Unity = Love = integration = transformation = etc. also all go hand in hand or may be different facets of that one diamond. There’s a reason Ken Wilber has his model as an expanded circle, not stages which imply high and low. Generally, organic, interconnected, alive, growth & specifically expansion is how nature is. When looking at a tree trunk we can see one circle grows to include the next. Sure, a tree also grows tall but there are young trees who can grow tall quickly so you usually don’t determine the age or figuratively speaking ‘wisdom’ of a tree by its height but by its width/expanded circles. Pachamama by Beautiful Chorus lyrics excerpt: ‘I wanna be free, be me Be the only being that I see Not to rise and not to fall Be at one with love and all There is no high, no low There is nowhere else to go Except inside within your heart And be just who you are Pachamama, I'm coming home To the place where I belong’ https://open.spotify.com/track/2WRYbId2ZeaRvytazsQ6Vh?si=emFBEkjRSquoke1SdWf1Pg

Solid video!

You may have awakened but based on your lifestyle it seems like you are not wholly integrated back into your humanity and society. Feel the resistance and essential pain. There may be something you are avoiding to be with and allow yourself to be with. See, based on your post, it seems like you are not totally fine with your current situation, or at least some part of you. Maybe the awakened part is at peace but another part senses that something is not quite right. Otherwise, why post and ask. So see what that part of yourself that is uncomfortable or in resistance to the situation is feeling. Regularly relax deeply for many hours. Lie down and allow. Disregard the thoughts, feel below them. Stay with that energy. Be in pure awareness of those sensations and don't shy away from any uncomfortableness or pain that may be rising to the surface.

@Thanks thanks! Great share.

@Leo Gura your post on leftist error is very interesting. "Welcome to real politics. Unconscious politics." struck me as in putting me back in touch with what is rather than what I hope for. That being said, it's not all doom and gloom. Consider studying more of the politics in Scandinavia for a counterbalance to the dumpster fire in the USA. We also have a right/populist uprising in Europe, specifically, Germany, France, UK, etc. but overall politics & society is a lot more sane there than in the USA. Also, what's the solution? And where does it start, right now?

Very true. However the common cause & solution of Self Deception is much simpler than this. Consider this pointer to the root problem so that you may refine & deepen your solution: it’s impossible to do Good or undo Self Deception until the ego is dissolved or in balance with being. I know you said this before but what is the ego and how to dissolve is the key difference. It’s not just about deconstruction on the mental/contemplative & consciousness level but also about dissolving its core on the emotional/pain/resistance level. This is both the residue/result (which is conditioning) of previous ego living stored in the body & also the cause of ego in the first place. Self deception is literally the natural result of ignorance. However, ignorance is not just a lack of education or contemplation. This is the mental level. However, as mentioned, there’s another level on which this definition applies: Ignorance also entails ignoring something. What are we essentially ignoring/avoiding/RESISTING? Of course, there is only one thing, essentially: pain. Pain in all of its forms: pain is usually some sort of thread to our survival, difficult situations, and reactions/resistance to that which turns into hate, anger, frustration, depression, sadness, grief, etc. etc. etc. Why is that? Because pain is the sensation of annahilation. Annahilation of our identity which is trying to survive. So we resist pain, which turns it into emotions, which stirr up thoughts, stories, and ideologies we cling to because these mental fixations are how we chronically realist/avoid/ignore facing the pain, leaving us in ignorance. This is also the very process that creates separation from the flow of life. Rending us incapable of aligning with the truth and doing Good. A mind will never be able to predict all of consequences and calculate what’s Good. It will also keep attracting self sabotaging & dysfunctional circumstances until the subconscious pain is processed. Only then will our subconscious even allow us to see the Truth/Good/Tao/Neutrality and naturally live it. So resistance to pain is the problem, it is ignorance, self deception & suffering. And processing pain is the solution, it is annahilation/death and results in rebirth/clarity/healing/oneness/liberation of greater energy & consciousness. This then natrurally elevates and raises our perspective, whereas beforehand it was an uphill battle, a fight against ourselves and others. A conflict, an opportunity to be with our pain and raise our consciousness until the conflict evaporates and resolves itself. Realigning us with what’s meant to be right now. That is True Good, bought to us not by our will but by our annahilation so that we may be neutrally/empty and serve as a channel for God to do Good through us. The significance and truth of this won’t be apparent until it’s experienced. Of course, the ego-mind will also play many tricks and not take this seriously or deny it to have us not come in contact with our annahilating pain. That is the nature and game of Self Deception. God Speed.

@Leo Gura do you mind responding to the main points I raised in the initial thread post? I don’t think your reply addressed those.

Most comments I saw are not positive towards Tom. Mostly criticism & jokes from below or more accurately from a more limited and probably less evolved perspective.

Here Tom flippantly said that there may only be humanity in the entire universe… Probably no aliens because the universe has enough souls/IUOC‘s with 9 billion humans and much more would not add much for its learning opportunities & purpose to grow into love… as if the universe had limited resources. Bruh?! Joe even called him out on it. Then Tom paddled back a bit. One comment said: too open minded and close minded at the same time lol I‘m really trying to give Tom the benefit of the doubt but he keeps on disappointing me. Of course, he may be referring to the LCS and not all of reality but then this is misleading, not well articulated and still unnecessarily limited. His theory is not holding up with my highest intuititions about the infinity of this universe and mystical beauty of this life. His teachings seem fairly dry to me and not that helpful to realizing the truth here and now. At the end of the day you‘ll want to free your mind from everything including his theory, I don’t see him point to that. That being said, it seems like an interesting intro for people that are very head-centered. And if that’s what it is, that’s fine. It may even contribute to revolutionizing science and help it catching up with the truth. If so, great work, I‘m pulling my hat for that.

On a recent community call, Peter Ralston joined and gave a Q&A. At the end, a lady asked how she could stop imagining or play with physical laws (like making a chair fly). Previously, Peter Ralston had explained how you haven’t really understood how you are creating/doing something until you can simply stop doing it. First, you learn this with physical movements, then with thoughts and emotions. It’s easy to understand how we are creating physical movement by moving our arm. It may also be understandable how we are ‘doing’ the movement of thoughts or emotions but it gets tricky with physical pain. He too explains how we are creating physical pain (like when you hit an hammer on your hand) and how to stop it in his books. Now where it gets really tricky and what he briefly talked about at the end of that community call is how to stop creating or even playing with physical laws. The woman said she could already stop thoughts and emotions on command but not physical laws. Peter hinted that it’s an issue of identity and that the woman would still make a distinction between her (self) and the physical world (other), subconsciously giving power away from her (self) to a projected other. The woman replied that she already perceives herself to be one with everything. Peter said that that she might perceive or see herself as one but there’s a difference between perceiving everything as one but still making a distinction between your human and the world vs completely eliminating that distinction and litterly there being no difference between moving your hand and your chair. He clarified that the key issue is that you can only stop creating or manipulating that which is self (even though there is no you) so as long as you don’t consider the chair to be equally self as your hand you still have a disempowering distinction. He concluded that she shall contemplate that and can play God for a while if she pleases so but that ultimately it doesn’t matter. The real result is not playing God but becoming as selfless as the chair you have become one with. A chair is a selfless tool, ready to serve its purpose, not complaining when a leg breaks off. That is where it’s at he said. I could share the call recording excerpt or transcript if you wanted to contemplate his exact words. I found this very inspiring independent of if it’s true or not. If it’s true however, it really goes to show how powerful our distinctions and direct Consciousness are. Let’s contemplate!

Anyone moved an object yet?

I learned how to do this. Learn how to process your pain. Easier said than done but extraordinary simple. Then these situations won’t contract but expand your consciousness and liberate you from keep on attracting them through subconscious self sabotaging patterns. Michael A. Singer’s book: The Untethered Soul is a good start.

During such awakenings you describe, some parts awaken, while others do not. Other, unintegrated parts resist, feel fear, and are terrified. This is totally natural if you understand how trauma and the psyche work. You are literally traumatizing yourself with your awakenings. Parts of your psyche are still a child. Not the mature adult you may identify with now. These are different parts. Now when the mature adult part takes psychedelic or meditates hard-core and has a crazy awakening the child in you is literally shocked, paralyzed, and traumatized. Another much more gentle and integrated way to not only wake up but fully liberate all parts, is not through pushing for an awakening with any technique or substance, but by simply dissolving into non-doing and from that awake & aware state of being, meeting/seeing/feeling/or being with any and everything that comes up. Meeting every thought, every desire, every resistance, every emotion, every anger, every sadness, every joy, every thrill, every opening, every revelation, every sadness, every despair, every grief, every story every high, every low, etc. A whole/holy/healthy way to organically grow and expand your consciousness is by balancing love/integration and wisdom/insight. It’s a tight rope, a subtle balance to strike, the further we go, the easier it is to fall from grace. Of course, this requires patience, which the mind does not have, but we can become aware of that dynamic and step out of it, process the essential pain of impatience and meet it dispassionately as any and everything that comes up as we dissolve and surrender to all of what is as it is. Then it truly transforms on its own by us (our resistance) getting out of the way. The way. The Tao. Gods way and will, not our own. Otherwise, we may skip ahead, and go outside of our ‘pay grade’ as Chris Bache said (a professor who did 73 high dose LSD trips), of course the the universe/we will slap our (own) wrist. Because our subconscious/unconscious knows. We may deny. In my experience awakenings are only as terrifying as they are unintegrated and we are not ready for them. Consider that one day you, all of you, may be ready for that insight/truth and then, it’s not a terrifying encounter, but the ultimate liberating freedom, a Love, relief, and meeting unimaginable. In the meantime, let’s meet this moment with the same kind of intensity and presence, so we don’t miss the very valuable lessons the infinite intelligence of Life has presented us right here, and right now.

@Leo Gura why no more comment function in the blog directly?

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Here you go (audio attached below): 01:10:08 Anonymous Yeah, hi, Peter. Great to talk to you again. So I have this question: it's clear to me at this point that I'm creating emotions and the sense of me, that kind of thing. And I can stop creating that. So I can stop doing that, but I cannot stop creating colors, for instance, like laws of nature or the physical body, that kind of stuff. I cannot stop doing these things. And I have like a speculation that it may be possible to stop doing these things in the same way, or maybe in a different way, that I'm creating emotions or the sense of a separate self, for example. But I cannot stop doing that. So I guess my question is, how do I stop doing that? It seems like I'm creating them by putting my attention on them. But that does not eliminate them. When I stop, cut off. I can pretend. Yeah, I don't see the colors, but that doesn't do the job. 01:11:40 Peter Ralston The first thing is, you see, it's a problem of identity. Okay, so you're saying I create that stuff? No, you don't. See. New idea, okay. Because you see, if in your experience, you see, you generate the experience you have of those things. Yes? Colors, the room, whatever, your body, you generate your experience. So we could say, perhaps you know you, what we call you creates those things, but you see what you're overlooking is that you also, or what is also created the moment you create you, you also create not you. See, the chair is not you, the colors are not you. So you don't experience those at all as you, do you? 01:12:27 Anonymous Well, I do experience them as being made of the same stuff as the rest of the experience. 01:12:32 Peter Ralston And it's like in your perception, right in your experience. But there's a distinction you make even in your experience, which is all you, right? But there's a distinction you make of not you, a world of not you. See, now, as long as you make that distinction, you don't control, not you don't have a lot of choice and not you. It just, you know, comes back at you. That's why you cannot stop doing your body, you can't stop doing the colors, and you can't stop doing the chair. See, because they're not you, and they have a say, see that chair over there, it has a say. It's going to say, hey, chair, and you don't have any choice about that. See, now you could consider eliminating the distinction of you and not you. And then see where that goes. I gave that advice earlier, but, you know, that goes, you see, that frees up consciousness from this you-not-you distinction. And the you-not-you distinction, say, in your experience, dominates consciousness. And that's why you can't control not you. And you have a hard time controlling even you. 01:13:49 Anonymous So are you saying that when I experience, like, maybe the route, the pathway towards, controlling the colors and controlling the chairs, would be to be the chairs and be the colors? And that may open up the possibility of like messing with them, or like be them in a different way. 01:14:13 Peter Ralston Yeah, yeah. 01:14:14 Anonymous And then at that point, you don't need to. 01:14:18 Peter Ralston Okay. 01:14:19 Anonymous So are you saying that eliminates the point? Like can that be done? Like out of, you know, curiosity? Like I just want to mess with, like, the way I'm being as a chair. 01:14:27 Peter Ralston Sure, sure. If you want to, but see, dig it. You see, the impulse to mess with the chair is you, and the chair is not you. So, now you're trying to see, you know, can I be God? So go ahead, be God for a while, you know, I'm not God, but I play one on TV. See, yeah, go, you know, go ahead. Give it a shot. But I would recommend instead of staying attached to the goal of, you know, what can I control, is consider letting go of the control and eliminating the distinction of you and not you. So you and not you are not different. 01:15:17 Anonymous Yeah. So then the impulse like to control. So you're suggesting that the impulse to control only arises as a consequence of imagining that I'm being an "I." And that other thing that I'm trying to control is not an "I." Therefore, that impulse can only exist. 01:15:32 Peter Ralston Yeah, and you can't control it. Otherwise, what use is there self and not self? What use is there? Say, you depend on not self. Not self is better than you. See, in the fact that it doesn't have any of this weird shit you got going on, right? See it's just there. And you notice that all it does is selflessly serve. It doesn't worry. You can smash the chair, and it doesn't whimper. It doesn't care. Now. What's that consciousness? 01:16:13 Anonymous All right, yeah, thank you. I'll consider that. 01:16:16 Peter Ralston Sure. Okay. But I've gone too far for today. So I'm sorry, everybody else. I'm going to have to shut it down before I say more. All right, Brendan, I'm going to turn it over to you. You take it away, Adios. Peter Ralston Community Call.mp3

I agree. Also, if you live in a touristy, tropical environment where others make vacation, it becomes 10x easier. Everyone is DTF. If you want to max it out, go to a tropical island where everything you have in a big city is in a small area reachable by bike in a few min, with a bunch of hippies, events, and where open love us celebrated. Again, everyone is DTF. Of course, going there with the intention to hoe around, is at least questionable... so make sure to visit the shaman events for some emotional healing and trauma release 😂

That's it. Consider reading 'The Surrender Experiment' by Michael A. Singer. Super interesting read & 'case study'! He spent 1.5 years in the woods in a little hut, meditating for most of the day, fasting, and completely committing his life to hardcore spiritual practice. After a few life events, it became clear to him that that wasn't going to get him all the way. It got him somewhere remarkable, but not where he aspired to go. So then, he decided to dare and started a surrender experiment. He understood that his efforts could only get him so far. Humbeled, he realized that he didn't know and that guidance or grace was required. Since he didn't have a teacher or guru to surrender to, he chose life. Whenever life presented him with a decision or crossroad, small or huge, he would let go of his preferences, and go with what was asked of him. Almost like saying 'yes' to everything, no matter how many resistances and tantrums his mind would throw up. Surprisingly, this did not end up in disaster, but in incredible synchronicities and grace. Life had more to offer than he could ever take from it. It did not only transform his worldly life (he became a billionaire), but according to him, it also did more for his spiritual progress than all of the hours spent in meditation. Pretty impressive testimony. I will add that: In my experience and understanding, both ego resistance and ascension are an escape from being in pain. The sweet spot is in between the two. Where there is enough spacious awareness to not resist pain anymore, but not too much space, which can make pain disappear. It is in the middle where the pain process has the chance to fully annihilate us and we can be reborn into greater consciousness. This is the essence of liberation & integration.

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I found one of the trickiest parts about self-inquiry is falling back into the seemingly 'important' content of thoughts rather than recognizing that it's just mind activity happening - in awareness. A friend referred me to a teacher who gives such reflections and it's been extremely effective for me. He works free of charge, if you'd like, I may be able to connect you as well. The prerequisite is an established meditation practice, however. I think he works with experienced meditators, so the seeds he sows have fertile ground to grow.

That is helarious One relief I've found is a guide or mentor if you will who has walked the path of pain processing. To me, he is a benevolent loving presence who automatically relieves so much of my resistance toward the pain that is surfacing. We can burn the candle from both ends. Drop resistance and drop into the emotions. Drop resistance and drop into awareness of awareness. Both offer relief. The former will transform our entire being, especially the human. The latter will awaken us more deeply, at the potential cost of leaving the body behind and spiritual bypassing.

Interesting perspective. I would guess he wasn’t willing to run away from a problem and acted in integrity with his values. Meaning, moving to another country won’t solve the problem. What is a good life worth if what you believe is more important (like making a change) is being run away from? He saw a problem and thought it needed fixing. That is independent of what the rest of the country thinks or votes for. He has his responsibility, and acted accordingly to his values and understandings. He wanted to make a change and maybe even be a hero. If we make a problem important enough in our heads, believing that it’s objectively true, without recognizing that it’s actually not a problem but just unresolved pain within & a strong identification with those thoughts… then violence may seem like a solid solution. But it’s not. It’s a delusion. That being said, life plays itself out so who knows. This may be a valid collective self correcting mechanism. Violence is happening. There is no arguing with that. Is it necessary for the evolution of the whole? Or just a misstep/shadow? I don’t know.

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Yeah, he didn’t seem that clear headed with his escape plan. I’d flee the country on the same day. And if I couldn’t I would definitely NOT sit in a PUBLIC restaurant like McDonalds!?!?! Like WTF bunker down in a basement or in nature until everyone has forgotten about this before you leave cover… Not sure what this guy was thinking. I guess it’s the dilemma of if you are ‘stupid’ (meaning unwise, unloving, traumatized, blind, etc.) enough to commit a crime you are also too stupid to do it well. Unless of course it’s organized crime. But I don’t know. Would be so curious to interview the guy! Edit/PS.: 400th posts, yayy haha 🎉

Look up Detox Dudes, he suffered from severe mental health issues. Maybe you can get some inspiration and information from his journey. He also did A LOT of ayuasca and it didn’t help long term.