Spiral Wizard

Solid video!

You may have awakened but based on your lifestyle it seems like you are not wholly integrated back into your humanity and society. Feel the resistance and essential pain. There may be something you are avoiding to be with and allow yourself to be with. See, based on your post, it seems like you are not totally fine with your current situation, or at least some part of you. Maybe the awakened part is at peace but another part senses that something is not quite right. Otherwise, why post and ask. So see what that part of yourself that is uncomfortable or in resistance to the situation is feeling. Regularly relax deeply for many hours. Lie down and allow. Disregard the thoughts, feel below them. Stay with that energy. Be in pure awareness of those sensations and don't shy away from any uncomfortableness or pain that may be rising to the surface.

@Thanks thanks! Great share.

@Leo Gura your post on leftist error is very interesting. "Welcome to real politics. Unconscious politics." struck me as in putting me back in touch with what is rather than what I hope for. That being said, it's not all doom and gloom. Consider studying more of the politics in Scandinavia for a counterbalance to the dumpster fire in the USA. We also have a right/populist uprising in Europe, specifically, Germany, France, UK, etc. but overall politics & society is a lot more sane there than in the USA. Also, what's the solution? And where does it start, right now?

Very true. However the common cause & solution of Self Deception is much simpler than this. Consider this pointer to the root problem so that you may refine & deepen your solution: it’s impossible to do Good or undo Self Deception until the ego is dissolved or in balance with being. I know you said this before but what is the ego and how to dissolve is the key difference. It’s not just about deconstruction on the mental/contemplative & consciousness level but also about dissolving its core on the emotional/pain/resistance level. This is both the residue/result (which is conditioning) of previous ego living stored in the body & also the cause of ego in the first place. Self deception is literally the natural result of ignorance. However, ignorance is not just a lack of education or contemplation. This is the mental level. However, as mentioned, there’s another level on which this definition applies: Ignorance also entails ignoring something. What are we essentially ignoring/avoiding/RESISTING? Of course, there is only one thing, essentially: pain. Pain in all of its forms: pain is usually some sort of thread to our survival, difficult situations, and reactions/resistance to that which turns into hate, anger, frustration, depression, sadness, grief, etc. etc. etc. Why is that? Because pain is the sensation of annahilation. Annahilation of our identity which is trying to survive. So we resist pain, which turns it into emotions, which stirr up thoughts, stories, and ideologies we cling to because these mental fixations are how we chronically realist/avoid/ignore facing the pain, leaving us in ignorance. This is also the very process that creates separation from the flow of life. Rending us incapable of aligning with the truth and doing Good. A mind will never be able to predict all of consequences and calculate what’s Good. It will also keep attracting self sabotaging & dysfunctional circumstances until the subconscious pain is processed. Only then will our subconscious even allow us to see the Truth/Good/Tao/Neutrality and naturally live it. So resistance to pain is the problem, it is ignorance, self deception & suffering. And processing pain is the solution, it is annahilation/death and results in rebirth/clarity/healing/oneness/liberation of greater energy & consciousness. This then natrurally elevates and raises our perspective, whereas beforehand it was an uphill battle, a fight against ourselves and others. A conflict, an opportunity to be with our pain and raise our consciousness until the conflict evaporates and resolves itself. Realigning us with what’s meant to be right now. That is True Good, bought to us not by our will but by our annahilation so that we may be neutrally/empty and serve as a channel for God to do Good through us. The significance and truth of this won’t be apparent until it’s experienced. Of course, the ego-mind will also play many tricks and not take this seriously or deny it to have us not come in contact with our annahilating pain. That is the nature and game of Self Deception. God Speed.

@Leo Gura do you mind responding to the main points I raised in the initial thread post? I don’t think your reply addressed those.

Most comments I saw are not positive towards Tom. Mostly criticism & jokes from below or more accurately from a more limited and probably less evolved perspective.

Here Tom flippantly said that there may only be humanity in the entire universe… Probably no aliens because the universe has enough souls/IUOC‘s with 9 billion humans and much more would not add much for its learning opportunities & purpose to grow into love… as if the universe had limited resources. Bruh?! Joe even called him out on it. Then Tom paddled back a bit. One comment said: too open minded and close minded at the same time lol I‘m really trying to give Tom the benefit of the doubt but he keeps on disappointing me. Of course, he may be referring to the LCS and not all of reality but then this is misleading, not well articulated and still unnecessarily limited. His theory is not holding up with my highest intuititions about the infinity of this universe and mystical beauty of this life. His teachings seem fairly dry to me and not that helpful to realizing the truth here and now. At the end of the day you‘ll want to free your mind from everything including his theory, I don’t see him point to that. That being said, it seems like an interesting intro for people that are very head-centered. And if that’s what it is, that’s fine. It may even contribute to revolutionizing science and help it catching up with the truth. If so, great work, I‘m pulling my hat for that.

Anyone moved an object yet?

@Leo Gura ‘truth is antithetical to human survival and social organization’ quote from your new post about why the lower mind is untruthful. I see your point and I’d like to offer a few potentially more expanded perspectives for consideration. It may be true that it is partly in conflict with survival depending on how narrowly you define it but not with human evolution and its fruition, which includes its annahilation (on various levels) through truth and also rebirth into greater consciousness. There is never just death. Death and Life are two sides of the same coin. I may be leaning myself far out of the window here but I’d dare to say that Truth & Love are actually the only non-things which can make social organisation more effective. Truth is more wholistic, inclusive, efficient, effective, and interconnected. It’s litterly the driving force of evolution. Tom Campbell from my big TOE also talkes about this a lot with his lower and high entropy model. It explains how Love litterly is higher organisation & integrated complexity. Of course, the ego thinks it makes something more effective through lying, corruption, exploitation, etc. BUT only in the short term from a very narrow perspective, which is not the truth, the truth is always the whole and that includes all consequences, including long term effects which is where truth wins, always. You also talked about this, explaining how over time the infinite balancing forces of the universe always balance each other out to perfection. Lastly, contemplate that there actually is no higher and lower perspective AT ALL. What is actually closer to the truth (more accurate) is to say a contracted vs expanded perspective. Alternatively we may also use narrow/partial/naive vs inclusive/wholistic/wise but contracted vs expanded already (visually as well) shows that an expanded perspective includes the contracted one. It may sound like a word game but it’s not just a word game. High and low inevitably imply value judgements for most minds, which is why so many ego’s weaponize spiral dynamics and spirituallity as a whole. So I’d say deeming human survival and human organisation as ‘lower mind’ is an over generalization and not nuanced enough. People won’t be pointed to the Beauty and Love of integrated and relevant insight. It’s a missed chance to point to a truth you may not have fully embodied for yourself: Gentle, loving, and graceful living. This includes me as well, of course. Otherwise, you wouldn’t trigger me (no matter how subtle). I’m not a saint, at least, for the time being. But based on my experience contracted and expanded perspectives are much closer to the embodied truth I observe and live out. It’s obvious that resistance (to pain) = contraction = denial = ignoring = ignorance = naive = delusion = self deception = corruption = illusion = suffering = destruction = etc. all go hand in hand. Whereas awareness = relaxation = surrender = insight = energy = clarity = honesty = integrity = Unity = Love = integration = transformation = etc. also all go hand in hand or may be different facets of that one diamond. There’s a reason Ken Wilber has his model as an expanded circle, not stages which imply high and low. Generally, organic, interconnected, alive, growth & specifically expansion is how nature is. When looking at a tree trunk we can see one circle grows to include the next. Sure, a tree also grows tall but there are young trees who can grow tall quickly so you usually don’t determine the age or figuratively speaking ‘wisdom’ of a tree by its height but by its width/expanded circles. Pachamama by Beautiful Chorus lyrics excerpt: ‘I wanna be free, be me Be the only being that I see Not to rise and not to fall Be at one with love and all There is no high, no low There is nowhere else to go Except inside within your heart And be just who you are Pachamama, I'm coming home To the place where I belong’ https://open.spotify.com/track/2WRYbId2ZeaRvytazsQ6Vh?si=emFBEkjRSquoke1SdWf1Pg

I learned how to do this. Learn how to process your pain. Easier said than done but extraordinary simple. Then these situations won’t contract but expand your consciousness and liberate you from keep on attracting them through subconscious self sabotaging patterns. Michael A. Singer’s book: The Untethered Soul is a good start.

During such awakenings you describe, some parts awaken, while others do not. Other, unintegrated parts resist, feel fear, and are terrified. This is totally natural if you understand how trauma and the psyche work. You are literally traumatizing yourself with your awakenings. Parts of your psyche are still a child. Not the mature adult you may identify with now. These are different parts. Now when the mature adult part takes psychedelic or meditates hard-core and has a crazy awakening the child in you is literally shocked, paralyzed, and traumatized. Another much more gentle and integrated way to not only wake up but fully liberate all parts, is not through pushing for an awakening with any technique or substance, but by simply dissolving into non-doing and from that awake & aware state of being, meeting/seeing/feeling/or being with any and everything that comes up. Meeting every thought, every desire, every resistance, every emotion, every anger, every sadness, every joy, every thrill, every opening, every revelation, every sadness, every despair, every grief, every story every high, every low, etc. A whole/holy/healthy way to organically grow and expand your consciousness is by balancing love/integration and wisdom/insight. It’s a tight rope, a subtle balance to strike, the further we go, the easier it is to fall from grace. Of course, this requires patience, which the mind does not have, but we can become aware of that dynamic and step out of it, process the essential pain of impatience and meet it dispassionately as any and everything that comes up as we dissolve and surrender to all of what is as it is. Then it truly transforms on its own by us (our resistance) getting out of the way. The way. The Tao. Gods way and will, not our own. Otherwise, we may skip ahead, and go outside of our ‘pay grade’ as Chris Bache said (a professor who did 73 high dose LSD trips), of course the the universe/we will slap our (own) wrist. Because our subconscious/unconscious knows. We may deny. In my experience awakenings are only as terrifying as they are unintegrated and we are not ready for them. Consider that one day you, all of you, may be ready for that insight/truth and then, it’s not a terrifying encounter, but the ultimate liberating freedom, a Love, relief, and meeting unimaginable. In the meantime, let’s meet this moment with the same kind of intensity and presence, so we don’t miss the very valuable lessons the infinite intelligence of Life has presented us right here, and right now.

@Leo Gura why no more comment function in the blog directly?

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Here you go (audio attached below): 01:10:08 Anonymous Yeah, hi, Peter. Great to talk to you again. So I have this question: it's clear to me at this point that I'm creating emotions and the sense of me, that kind of thing. And I can stop creating that. So I can stop doing that, but I cannot stop creating colors, for instance, like laws of nature or the physical body, that kind of stuff. I cannot stop doing these things. And I have like a speculation that it may be possible to stop doing these things in the same way, or maybe in a different way, that I'm creating emotions or the sense of a separate self, for example. But I cannot stop doing that. So I guess my question is, how do I stop doing that? It seems like I'm creating them by putting my attention on them. But that does not eliminate them. When I stop, cut off. I can pretend. Yeah, I don't see the colors, but that doesn't do the job. 01:11:40 Peter Ralston The first thing is, you see, it's a problem of identity. Okay, so you're saying I create that stuff? No, you don't. See. New idea, okay. Because you see, if in your experience, you see, you generate the experience you have of those things. Yes? Colors, the room, whatever, your body, you generate your experience. So we could say, perhaps you know you, what we call you creates those things, but you see what you're overlooking is that you also, or what is also created the moment you create you, you also create not you. See, the chair is not you, the colors are not you. So you don't experience those at all as you, do you? 01:12:27 Anonymous Well, I do experience them as being made of the same stuff as the rest of the experience. 01:12:32 Peter Ralston And it's like in your perception, right in your experience. But there's a distinction you make even in your experience, which is all you, right? But there's a distinction you make of not you, a world of not you. See, now, as long as you make that distinction, you don't control, not you don't have a lot of choice and not you. It just, you know, comes back at you. That's why you cannot stop doing your body, you can't stop doing the colors, and you can't stop doing the chair. See, because they're not you, and they have a say, see that chair over there, it has a say. It's going to say, hey, chair, and you don't have any choice about that. See, now you could consider eliminating the distinction of you and not you. And then see where that goes. I gave that advice earlier, but, you know, that goes, you see, that frees up consciousness from this you-not-you distinction. And the you-not-you distinction, say, in your experience, dominates consciousness. And that's why you can't control not you. And you have a hard time controlling even you. 01:13:49 Anonymous So are you saying that when I experience, like, maybe the route, the pathway towards, controlling the colors and controlling the chairs, would be to be the chairs and be the colors? And that may open up the possibility of like messing with them, or like be them in a different way. 01:14:13 Peter Ralston Yeah, yeah. 01:14:14 Anonymous And then at that point, you don't need to. 01:14:18 Peter Ralston Okay. 01:14:19 Anonymous So are you saying that eliminates the point? Like can that be done? Like out of, you know, curiosity? Like I just want to mess with, like, the way I'm being as a chair. 01:14:27 Peter Ralston Sure, sure. If you want to, but see, dig it. You see, the impulse to mess with the chair is you, and the chair is not you. So, now you're trying to see, you know, can I be God? So go ahead, be God for a while, you know, I'm not God, but I play one on TV. See, yeah, go, you know, go ahead. Give it a shot. But I would recommend instead of staying attached to the goal of, you know, what can I control, is consider letting go of the control and eliminating the distinction of you and not you. So you and not you are not different. 01:15:17 Anonymous Yeah. So then the impulse like to control. So you're suggesting that the impulse to control only arises as a consequence of imagining that I'm being an "I." And that other thing that I'm trying to control is not an "I." Therefore, that impulse can only exist. 01:15:32 Peter Ralston Yeah, and you can't control it. Otherwise, what use is there self and not self? What use is there? Say, you depend on not self. Not self is better than you. See, in the fact that it doesn't have any of this weird shit you got going on, right? See it's just there. And you notice that all it does is selflessly serve. It doesn't worry. You can smash the chair, and it doesn't whimper. It doesn't care. Now. What's that consciousness? 01:16:13 Anonymous All right, yeah, thank you. I'll consider that. 01:16:16 Peter Ralston Sure. Okay. But I've gone too far for today. So I'm sorry, everybody else. I'm going to have to shut it down before I say more. All right, Brendan, I'm going to turn it over to you. You take it away, Adios. Peter Ralston Community Call.mp3