Henri
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Developmental forces (evolution) drive a good leader, he is ahead of others and is giving the right example.
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No, one cannot be born enlightened, though one can be born without (almost) negative karma.
One has to develop through all the pre-developmental lines anyway, but without the karma one can become enlightened pretty quick.
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An interesting topic.
I am always annoyed with people who take something out of a tradition, change a few words, give it a different name and start making money out of it.
However everything is evolving and that`s good. But to my opinion the real knowledge really did not change, just a few `new` alleys.
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@Abhijeet Singh Time? You can do Seva at your job, with your family, your neighbours, whatever.
It`s all about inner attitude. Your whole life you can be a karma yogi and stand in the center of the world.
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A topic not well understood by the most people who visit this forum. And understandable.
In the late eighties I got involved in The Art of Living where I have got the opportunity to gain a lot of experiences on meditation, yoga, pranayamas and knowledge. An integral part of their program was called Seva (selfless service).
In the beginning I was obstinate to it. `What the f**k, I just want to meditate and learn and grow.` In a way really only concerned with my own development. `Isn`t it so that you can only help people when you have first developed yourself?` All those barriers and excuses came up in my mind and I had a hard time dealing with it.
However their approach to developing is an integral one, it combines all the different approaches to development, all the four limbs of the yoga-system are involved. And during time I experienced the benefits of doing selfless service for others than just me. I experienced that by helping others you are helping yourself also, getting a new meaning to the doctrine `we are all one.`
I have learned that the real Seva you do in a meditative state where the intentions are most important. You`ll experience that in a certain way it is not even you who is doing the job. That was really an eyeopener.
So I am able to understand how the majority of this audience looks at Seva, or karma-yoga as it is also called. Nevertheless I am also able to understand that this is the missing link for lots of people who do self-development. The Integral Yoga is about four limbs and not about two as most will see it.
The common excuse that first one is having to develop one self is terribly wrong. Every opportunity in life to help someone is a gift where one can show ones responsibility, is an opportunity to grow and is a opportunity to express your love and this expression gives enormous joy to one self. It`s not about the results its all about the intentions and The Art of Living has proven this aspect widely in today`s world.
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@NoOne Well, the point of `nothing to lose`is the best starting point thinkable.
I suggest the main importance for you right now is to have experiences that will bring you up a bit.
To learn some new things by experiencing new things. Not seeing, hearing or reading them.
Real `spiritual` stuff so to speak where you are able to really experience things like joy, love, inner peace and real relaxation.
Take a course you are interested in for a few days where you are able to learn all this. Some meditation, pranayamas and yoga.
This will lift you up and give you the energy and tools to do it yourself afterwards.
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@NoOne A question mate; do you have any experience with self development?
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@Nomad Haha, enjoy the ride...
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@Nomad Off course I can take multiple perspectives, that`s what integral is about. I just prefer not to play the warrior anymore (I did a long time) and believe me (or know by reading my posts) that blue is not my color.
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@Nomad Only mentioned Graves because you are calling every one `blue`. So I am talking your language. I prefer using Graves only in practical social and cultural sense.
The thing one can be sure about is the fact that one is someone or something that experiences. That`s where all the Asian traditions have their starting point; experience. In the West we start with the thinking, so we say I know that I don`t know. That`s quite a difference.
Self- transcendence is indeed something else than self- actualization. When you aim for actualization, it`s your good right. But attacking the ones who did show a way to enlightenment is, let me carefully say, not developed?
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I prefer Wilber mate; more from the heart so to speak...
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Yeah, going from orange to green one needs to become sensitive again, that can be hard... relativistic also, tough isn`t it?
You play mind-games from an orange point of view. That`s all. Getting lost in words without having a clue about the impact.
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@Nomad Well, talking about Graves it looks like your stuck in orange mate.
May be its good for you to have a look at the developmental lines by Wilber, its not just about the ego... There is a lot more.
You can find out there why it is that you are so rude in your posts, may be took a wrong turn?
And yes, I`m an integral thinker so I know its not only about the thinking. Do you?
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@Nomad Nothing is your own mate...
Not your words, not your ideas, not your concepts, not your logic, not your body, not your existence.
You are a big illusion in an even bigger illusion. A nomad in an abandoned desert of a blown up ego...
The intellect is not going to save you, it`s gonna destroy you.
Start serving people, it might save you...
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The seeker should remember that he is born with virtues; otherwise he could not have been a seeker.
If you think you do not have virtues and then try to cultivate them, you will fail.
You often compare yourself with others on the basis of virtues. Do not compare yourself with them. Simply recognize all the virtues you appreciate in others, and realize that they are already present in you in seed form. You only have to nurture them.
When you think you do not have a virtue, then you come from a space of lack or deficiency.
That is why we don't need positive affirmations!
Affirmations do not work because you think you do not have those virtues, and with affirmation you try to have them.
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Used to work on parties on the beach and was always asked to give a helping hand when someone was having a bad trip.
I took them to a relaxed place and forced them to imitate my breathing which I did close to their ear. Just a pranayama technique to get out of it.
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Well, a bit different as your approach, but in a way complementary.
Worked and working on an integral approach on the `interest of the child`, as mentioned in the Universal Declaration of Child-rights and in our national laws. To create an alternative for the government based organisations on this topic as Child-protection and Youth-Care. An alternative based on integral development and human values. @Nic
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@Nic Nice one, I totally agree with you.
This is my life purpose as I see it.
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By the way; The Buddha was a Hindu-Yogi...
He just found another path to enlightenment opposite to the most common one.
A Hindu talks about bliss, a Buddhist about suffering.
A Hindu talks about fullness, a Buddhist about emptiness.
That`s all folks...
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To my opinion your goals are not in conflict with each other.
Don`t forget that psychologically spoken you are in the middle of your development as a youngster. So a study as well as some cash will provide a lot needed security for all your developmental lines. A sense of security is a must in Maslow `s pyramid.
Off course you listen to your parents but in the end it`s you who should make any decision about your own future. To get stronger here, meditate on certain aspects of it.
As a person who is defining himself as a person with many interests I would suggest to start with studying the work of Ken Wilber and his Integral Project. This will give you a solid base to all your interests and the key to unlock your potential.
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A good meditation is like a good brainwash..
Everything becomes clear again.
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@adramaay This self-actualization stuff by Leo is just a way next to many other ways.
Leo found his way and shares it with who ever it may concern.
Taking the classical point of view, yoga has four limbs; raja (meditation), jnana (knowledge), karma (service) and bhakti (love). You see on this site its mostly about jnana and raja.
As I understand your message correctly, you give me the feeling you need more bhakti and karma. So check it out.
Everyone is having his unique character and having his own unique way.
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You have to be able to think integral and you all do not...