John Paul

Tell me more about "business is not a tier 2 thing."

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I feel like rent is a big killer on people's ability to meet survival needs and become free from wage slavery. To spend money on land for a good price and provide space for those who also want to escape wage slavery seems like a pretty good plan, I don't see why it wouldn't work.

Is this realistic in y'all's opinions: A person buys land. They find people who are green or higher SD and who have a certain degree of maturity etc. etc. and let them camp out for free (or donation) and have a commune (not cult) that is built slowly one person at a time. There are rules such as no drug use etc. that will be enforced. Trust worthy and committed people are given an additional task to stop and/or report lie spreading to the leader(s). Trust worthy and committed people are chosen to be listeners and learn how to be a pseudo-therapist for people. Music, yoga, art, conscious business, sharing etc. you get the picture anyway- People are encouraged to save up money and start their own homestead/commune and participate only in conscious business. Through homestead/garden/farming etc. chickens, hunting. We have more power to boycott big businesses that aren't practicing conscious (non-manipulative, non-exploitative) business etc. You see the picture? We buy the land, use it resourcefully and practice self-responsibility and kindness, honesty, generosity etc. and be super intentional ahead of time and make sure that truth and higher perspectives are always reinforced on premises. Thoughts?

Are you suggesting that we don't have any education whatsoever? Is that all considered disrespecting an individual's mental autonomy? Is Leo disrespecting mental autonomy? Who will be saying "you will own nothing and you will be happy!" and who will be listening and believing? I don't know what you mean about rooting out the whole system. Can you tell me more and give me an example? Dumb it down for me? Please tell me what a holarchial system will look like even vaguely. What solutions could they possible create if we are almost completely self-sufficient? What makes you think that the average green person would be that easy to manipulate? What could they be sold so that they give up homesteading and go back to shopping at safeway and watching TV? Crying to who? If we all have personal power we won't be crying to anyone. You don't think the people could hard negotiate with the government?

How doesn't indoctrination respect people's mental autonomy? I think the problem with the internet compared to the vision I shared is that low quality lies are allowed to spread on the internet. I'm not anti-free speech but lies are such a huge obstacle for an individual to make the leap to stage yellow, ya know? People who come to the commune are people who want to see this system make it to the next stage for global warming, human rights etc. green stuff. And so they will go to stage yellow to fulfill their green needs? What makes you think that people won't gravitate toward starting their own homestead and letting the old system crumble? Isn't the mainstream narrative of green saying this same thing except without actually going to this extreme to defeat corruption? I don't want to stop having a government. We will have all of our "needs" from Maslow fulfilled and so we will want the same for other's and so we will not allow corruption in our system, we will use all of our power to unite and force the system to work for us and our people and then people outside of our state and country governments too.

Is there any point in studying spirituality? (already watched several of Leo's videos and I have had a few deep experiences on psychedelics) Is it okay to just practice meditation, pranayama/asana, have good health etc.? As long as one kept practicing daily and kept in balance the other sub-systems (relationships, career etc.) of one's life is there any trap in the practices themselves as long as decent methods are chosen? What might be a sign that a technique is not working short-term-long-term or that one of these traps, if they exist, has been fallen into in one's meditation/spiritual practice? What are the functions of "spirituality" in a life chosen to be devoted to serving Love and Love's plan/progress in society? I have a personal intention to be more balanced with how much studying I do and to study what is most practical and relevant to my life. How strongly would you recommend a young (low-low/medium level of spiritual development) person like me to read "mastering core teachings of the budha."? I bought that one how long ago, jeeze, and still haven't read it. It's so fat and intimidating, is it even practical? I know I also haven't watched "..dangers of spirituality" and "misapplying spirituality" but I don't know if those are the answers to these questions. If you need any more information on the questions or my personal life, please ask. I am looking for answers. @Leo Gura ? Sorry I always tag you but I am sifting through trust issues and you are pretty much number one for me to trust answers from. Thanks all

We as individual decide what we want to be real or not and it becomes so. Is this correct?

I don't remember how laws work. How do we actually make this the new way of doing things?

I need to be able to trust that god's intentions are always good and yet not be suckered into anything that's not working toward my LP which will be aligned with Truth and Love (together). (Is this it?) Also I know that completing all of my own needs for myself is foundational and I'm working on saving money/started reading think and grow rich etc.

I will first acknowledge that my focussing on other people's paths while I am still in the very early stage of developing my life purpose is mostly a distraction. But my life purpose involves providing spiral education, life coaching etc. (indirectly or directly). My question is do feminine types of people have a completely different "path" or "structure to their life purposes"? I'm sorry that I haven't thought of the wording for this question better. If no one understands the question I will come and try again. @Leo Gura how can I make distinctions between a man being nihilistic or being a more feminine type (so maybe having a life purpose that I can't see or that they wouldn't be able to communicate)?

Also I need a way to be aware of manipulations existing while at the same time not believing that most of human interaction is another manipulating me. I need help believing in myself that I can do this because the challenge has just appeared and old trust issues have resurfaced. Any advice on balancing these thoughts of everyone's an ego who manipulates or a "sociopath" (I still don't understand what this is!!!) and everyone has loving intention whatever. Please help me god.

I watched it. Thank you for your work. What this question is actually about is a specific event in which someone who appeared to be "friends" used some sort of short-term black magic, short-term as in I don't think with the intention to have a cult or something so organized but just for the power of seeing if they could manipulate someone into a different emotional state/bring me back to a more lost and confused lesser nihilism(?), and that's it but maybe try to do it again in the future and that's where I get angry and so I am cutting this person out. In the moment I could feel this person planting a seed of negativity and repeat it and I felt scared (talk of evil spirit experiences). Also when I started challenging them with the truth (I learned now I need to pick my battles more wisely. More importantly though I've deconstructed the concept of "friend".) then they were triggered and revealed to me as power-hungry, insecure (and not willing to be vulnerable about it), etc. I watched the full cult vid part one and then finished the nihilism video. The cult part one video felt more relevant but to a very minor degree. I even question if maybe a friend I know is trying to expose me to small amounts of darkness to "make me stronger and more tolerant of it" but I can't take that chance and don't think they will accept me setting a hard boundary for no darkness around me and I'm not even willing right now because I have to sift through this emotion of grieving for all the manipulation including cult-yness and false gurus etc. because I never really realized how wide-spread that stuff could be and on minor, minor scales. MANIPULATION is realized. I still take responsibility that I'm a bullshitter too and need to do more work. But this dark moment threw me off more. Pray that I use it as a learning experience and am stronger and have clearer vision and never do this to anyone intentionally or unintentionally and I pray I don't ever start a cult and that cult crap just stays out of my life in general. Also just dealing with the fact that red and purple are more than just alive and in American but that they can be hidden beneath other things and not look like my idea of a tribe or conquer/gangbanger. And that red could just lie and say it's intelligent, it could just pretend to be green/yellow/turquoise and infiltrate green groups and other color groups and be PARASITES. They don't have to be these big cult leaders. They could just do minimal manipulation just to drift by and enjoy nihilism while surviving(?) Do lazy, unambitious (not wanting to start a cult per say) "devils" exist? I'm sure they do. Tell me I'm not crazy please. And yes I know I'm a devil too but I'm just shocked by the idea that I can be manipulated. Any advice/experiences anyone? @Leo Gura? I can't believe someone can study things how a yellow person would but with the intention (which means cognition/actual stage?) of red? Integrating Red now just seems more daunting... I see the do it right now as a good one and having a fearless warrior spirit as a great ones and that's about it.. Also I could see the danger of AI MARKETING now and that it is studying systems but with an orange intention. And one more possible insight is that Red isn't trying to convince you to be red- they only think about power in themselves so much they couldn't even think of changing your color (could it?) they just want to destroy for exploitation others and their construction and conquer the world. Any advice/experiences y'all?

I've watched a bit less than half I think. I'm asking because some people will say that chasing material things blah blah. Or other ways to discredit LP with spiritual crap for why they don't have to build a life dedicated to ending suffering of others. I was wondering if this had somehow to do with being a feminine type and I was being ignorant. Or if I was on to the truth and this rhetoric is just full of shit.

Recommended studying appreciated @Hello from Russia and reasons why etc.

Leo, maybe you could upload a shorter, like, one hour heavy metals video for people on top of your regular uploads if you had extra time? And maybe one just for re-doing diet and supplementation, even exercise and general health? I don't know if it's too difficult to communicate to us how to figure it out for ourselves and be successful in these realms but.. maybe just the basics again and to diversify the content? General health maybe will take a whole long video, i don't know. anyway god bless

If you've grown and "verified direct experiences" yourself you can feel good about that without other's approval. The only person you should worry about controlling if you're going to worry about that is yourself, so why not use your energy to imagine a scenario where you love your family for whatever bullshit they buy into and at the same time value your own knowledge, experiences and, community while not letting anyone talk down to you. I'm guessing you feel alone because you have opened your mind and you feel like your loved ones haven't.. maybe you should also consider how many things your parents have experienced that you haven't, many of them they will probably never even tell you. You could also imagine being at ease with millions buying into propaganda, hating you because they are perceiving you as a member of a group or community etc. and you being unscathed by this. I could also be wrong about many, many things. Ask God or whatever; ask the silence

Life has twists and turns. Why not do what feels right in your heart?

I just find it pleasurable to imagine them and act mysterious with myself in my own head. It doesn't really matter to me what's real or not because I'd rather imagine cool things and have fun with them.

Yeah... pretty synchronistic because it's been happening a lot lately at work. I think I'm helping myself say things to people in my head that I want to say but wouldn't actually say to like.. get it out of my system. Sometimes it's angry things or nice things that for some reason I feel like I wouldn't say. I'd call the whole thing daydreaming though is really what it is for me.

Leo, in your SD lines etc. video you listed these lines as the most important to consider in life: cognitive/values/main, emotional, moral, career/livelihood, health/nutrition, interpersonal relationships, spiritual/metaphysical, educational, political, psycho-sexual, kinesthetic. Would you add, subtract, or combine/change this list at all? What do you all think?

From my POV: spiritually-yes, emotionally-yes... and in for other areas of life maybe a little but I think there will be a plateau because the person won't get up and go practice living life and taking action. But I think if someone experiences mystical states or whatever while meditating there is probably high potential of positive effects crossing over to other aspects of life like relating to others compassionately or being open-minded to new ideas.

@Conscious life What do you believe god is? Have you experienced god? What's your motivation for asking these questions?

Good for you Yeah... there is an abundance of homophobia in the world... it sucks

Hello Actualized.org. What stage of Spiral Dynamics do you believe you have developed to in your moral line? Why? I'd like to hear details or even personal stories along with why you believe you are at the stage you are at as well as any details or stories about stages you've been through. Please be vulnerable and kind. If you don't know what lines are at all, go and see Leo's video-Spiral Dynamics - Important Insights & Nuances If you know nothing about SD at all, don't jam up the thread with BS please. Leo and others, what documentation of the moral line do we have? Please share any resources here and let's remain open-minded and truly skeptical (obviously). Thank you! I believe that I am at stage ORANGE. I believe this because I follow my own moral compass, not one suggested to me by the church (for e.g.) or some sort of group that is focused on human or animal rights or the environment (for e.g.). I'd like to share a couple of ways in which I've lied to myself in order to convince myself that my moral compass was more developed than it actually was (Why? The ego and self-glorification of course). I've tried to convince myself that "Oh, I believe in Universal blah blah blah.. *politically GREEN ideaologies* And therefore my moral line is stage GREEN." But in action I consume a lot of material waste, slack on educating myself when it comes to the timeline of equal rights and practical systemic change, etc. Really I just do whatever the fuck I want to do; I don't mean in a RED way, I mean in an ORANGE way. I know that I am beyond stages RED and BLUE in the moral line because my personal experience of stage BLUE morality was based around misinterpretations of early Leo videos and that's how I constructed my morality through stages BLUE through blue-ORANGE. Funny! While I was in stage blue-ORANGE I lied to myself constantly that I was in stage YELLOW morality simply because my stage BLUE morality included the conceptof relative morality.. which of course is different in practice than actual "transcendental morality" which is what Leo labeled consciously doing the right thing in the moment versus morality being fixed in one of his older videos. Is buying a plastic Starbucks cup of coffee before going to exercise a signal that I'm beneath stage YELLOW morality? I don't believe so but I believe that being a lazy, low-productive person who won't prioritize tweaking my life in order to not have to buy plastics all of the fucking time is. I wrote that as an example but also for those above me to let me know if I am understanding the moral development line in SD accurately. If there's something obviously contradictive in my writing point it out to me! I know you will… Thanks! (I will share stories of what I believe were times I was developing through other stages of the emotional line after some discussion)