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You mean do the breathwork under the cold water? If I remeber correclty Wim Hof said it is danger and he doesn´t recommend it.

Your message is more simiar to christianism than any other spiritual tradition. Christiany talks about the inifinite goodness of God, everything is Good/Love, etc; I don´t see this message is that clear in buddhism and hinduism. Bernadette Roberts I think is the most relevant modern christian mystic.

What I mean here is the opposite of spiritual work. Spiritual work feels like no-efford, you just have to watch and do nothing, meanwhile what I am mean here is hard efford sensation.

Yes, I love mediation because I don´t have to do anything, just observe. But then I have to go back to all that efford on the daily life which is pretty discusting.

It would be interesting to know if you view about personal self-improvemenet stuff has changed and how do you deal with combining spirituallity with getting regular shit done. I mean, if you know that everything is relative and biased, how con you work hard to create your own business for example? How do you avoid nihislim? How do you avoid that "nothing matters, I don´t care about anything" mentallity?

Ok thank you, I guess what differs Leo from others mystic is, more than the experience, that it make sense to him to bring that into words and for other it doesn't.

Man he wants to be responsable about what he tells to the audience so a little tension is need, if you are in relax mode then you are less rigorous, the interview is good

I think the interview is pretty good in general terms. Through conversation format I get new nuances about his message. What always mindfuck me is the solipsistic stuff. A question for you: You claim you are enlightened. Do you experience solipsism (or whatever you can call it what he is explaining) too?

What does the purpose of the podcast has to do with I was saying? I was just discussing a point he made in the video. Regarding the points you are making, are you sure it is a good thing normies access to that kind of stuff? You will have a bunch of Connor Murphys, this path is very dangerous. I personally think people should keep their regular lifes if they are more or less ok with them and I never talk in public about mysticism. Also, the state of the sciences is ok, the problems arise precisely when scientific doesn't make scientific and make asserts about other stuff out of his field, like ontological or theological claims

This super scheptical/scientific/non-bias attitude that Leo is proposing in the interview doesn't make sense since it would lead you to nihilism because chosing survival over non-survival is a bias, why would we consider survival good? Isn't it an assumption society is taken for granted and need to be questioned? Why don't just suicide? This hiperational attitude doesn't make sense. There's profound knowledge in the common sense. Also, he assumes that there are narratives (as the big bang scientific narrative) that models our understanding our reality, which is ver doubtful. Again, he is incurring in a hyperrationalism, where the ideas -scientific narrative here- frame our regular understanding of reality.

Try by yourself Do noting in the cushion and then do noting washing the dishes, working, walking, etc and tell me what feels more effective

You can do neti neti or noting during whole day but if you sit and do only that it is x10 effective

And how do you do that out of the cushion? You need to be calm, sit and only pay attention to that exercise.

Can you explain? Some basic focus on the breathing or what?

He ridiculizes self-inquiry. What is his technique? Is it better? I have seen a lof of videos of him but I didn't find his technique anyway.

People can easily get them anyway so who cares.

I have chronical pain in my chest, my throat and behind my head since I was a teen. It makes me depressed and angry everyday, it is hard to carry with this suffer. I have been praciting a lot of techniques the last years but nothing worked. Bioenergetics exercises give me some release but then after 1 hour or so I am back to normallity. Holtropic breathing also works very good but the next day I am in default mode again. When I am drunk and after that when I have hangover I also have a release but then when hangover finished back again to pain. It is like when you are in pain and you take a pill but when the effect of the pill is off you go back to pain again... Probably I need ayahuasca or some hard shit but my current situation does not allow me to get into that kind of stuff.

I wrote "Bioenergetics exercises give me some release". I have done what the guys do in the video hundreds of times and it is not a big deal, I don´t "explode" like the people in that videos, it just give me some small release.

I appreciate your kind words and your videos man.

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So why are we meditating so much to experience God and don´t just suicide to merge with the Godhead?

Yes, I did these practice lot of times for hours. Just sit quiet and observe the pain area letting it be without judge it or trying to change it. 2 things can happen 1) a little sensations of well being while the practice and the next hour 2) nothing Honestly I am tired of practicing these kind of stuff for hours just for some momentary release, the next day I am in the starting line again. The efford-reward radio is not good. I want a permanent shift.

Yes I am 100% sure, I can clearly see how this pain is linked with the emotions I mentioned.

The throat exercise give me some release for a couple of hours but less effective than bioenergetics or holotropic breathing. Regarding the exercise for the chest (imagine a bubble) I didn´t notice any improvement, also it is hard to imagine a sphere during many minutes, your mind start wandering and don´t care about the sphere, I don´t like exercise that use imagination because it is very easy your mind tricks you. I will test them for some more time but I don't expect much from them based on what I experienced last days.

In that time it looks like he believed that gettin big achiements in the relative world could make you really happy. Very materialistic paradigm. Precisely that is the opposite that spirituallity teaches: you don´t need to look for the happiness in future goals/desires but in the Present moment. I really like these videos, but honestly I don´t believe them. I believe everything is suffering as the story of Gautama teaches. Get a girlfriend? that feels good but after a while is part of your routine and you feel the same again. Get the job you want? it is good the firs day but then when it is part of your routine you will feel miserable inside. I don´t believe anything in the relative world could made me happy. Am I wrong?