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Contemplation. Questioning. Observation. Self-Reflection.

Leo’s videos are a perfect example of what I’m talking about: Media that actually raises your consciousness. Those videos can create such a radial shift in your consciousness in ways pure meditation can’t. Contemplation is key and there are many mediums that help you contemplate.

Some of my highest states of consciousness came from after watching a movie and playing a video game that got me introspective and hugging trees. I think it is underestimated how much the media affects your consciousness. The mass majority of media lowers it, but you can find some forms of media that actually increase it so much that you will start crying, hugging trees, and even have mystical experiences of profound oneness and love. Some forms of media are like a psychedelic trip in itself. I remember playing Life Is Strange and as soon the game was over, I was in a consciousness state similar to that of when I was on 1g shrooms. Just overall very introspective, hugging trees, crying at the beauty of the connection of Existence/Consciousness itself. Just wanted to share that there are other “unconventional” avenues to pursue consciousness. Meditation and contemplation is one way, and so is playing a scary first-person video game like Outlast for example. Certainly forms of media are really good for contemplation.

It was 24g total in the whole jar which was a 6oz jar. I took like 3 tablespoons and nothing happened.

Is that common? I tripped hard over a year ago on 0.9g lemon tek.

Would be amazing if it was a true story. I’m not so sure. I agree with you that I was disappointed in the “realization.” The meditation discipline he talks about is inspiring. But it seemed wishful thinking like he wanted God to be true and so he hallucinated God. I didn’t see much contemplation and questioning of his Hinduism. I think he wrapped up and went back home too soon after he hallucinated God. I don’t think his awakening was complete. He left the cave too soon. It was great that he left the trap of the guru, but he didn’t leave that trap of religion.

Was it worth it for you?

I took a few tablespoons (2-3g worth of PE mushrooms). I must’ve gotten a bad batch because they didn’t do anything for me. No visuals, no nothing. I don’t know why. Maybe it was because they were grinded in blue honey and my friend stored it in the refrigerator? I don’t know. I did 1g lemon tek a year ago and was tripping crazy.

How do I dose mushrooms that are grinded in blue honey? Please help.

I agree. He’s saying correct things intellectually but I had the same feeling that he wasn’t directly conscious of God. It was a change of pace from the usual discussions Cliffe has with people.

Interesting discussion on Consciousness and God. Watch from the 10 minute mark. The student is onto something. This ties well into Leo’s recent blog post on Reality imagining physics. Cliffe, a religious thinker, cannot conceive of reality being imaginary.

Nice! In his first book, he didn’t go that much in-depth on his awakening. I am hoping in the second book he goes more in-depth.

Nice! His first book was a great read. Too bad he goes more in-depth on the techniques than his actual insights/“awakening”.

I don’t think it’s possible to realize God from meditation alone of purely strict meditation. I think contemplation is definitely needed along with psychedelics.

@Leo Gura Your blog post about Awakening & Meditation was a good one. You say meditation is like being brain dead and being 100% present. Any thought is a distraction from presence. I just wondered what role contemplation plays in understanding God? Isn’t contemplation the main method for realizing God and Truth? Contemplation is simply direct questioning of the present moment to derive insight, understanding, and truth. Meditation is thoughtless and there is nothing intelligent about that. I meditated for 5 hours straight of breath-awareness and got nothing out of it. My mind naturally loves to contemplate, so I think contemplation for me is the best tool. That’s why I resonate with Peter Ralston because he teaches contemplation as the main path to awakening. I think meditation can be good, but long-term meditation I think has its consequences. There is a certain limit where meditation stops benefitting you, and contemplation typically is a much more in-depth process. I think balancing concentration meditation and contemplation meditation might be the best practice. Contemplation I think yields greater insight and clarity than meditation, whereas meditation I think does better with developing discipline, concentration, equanimity, and tranquility. Like when you are bored out of your mind from meditating, that is a great opportunity to start contemplating boredom. Is contemplation a distraction from God?