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Don't take what I wrote too personally. No words were put in your mouth. What I stated wasn't directed at you. It was a general statement to not give authority to others and to think for yourself. It is good to listen to people who are high quality so I give you that. Sometimes though, silence is good too. It is all relative. However, I think it is much wiser to spend your time contemplating as opposed to reading or listening to others. For every hour you spend reading or listening to others, you need to be contemplating 1.5 - 2 hours is my rule of mind. I have no idea what the hell awakening is anymore, so I have no idea if you are awake, but I highly doubt it. If you think you are awake, how do you really know? Nobody is immune to self-deception. See my post on Awakening is a Dream for more on that. In terms of open-mindedness, there reaches a point where open-mindedness and closed-mindedness come full circle. You don't want to open your mind up to nonsense. There comes a point where open-mindedness becomes toxic. You eventually have to close your mind off to all nonsense, falsehood, and fantasy and just focus on what is true, but to get to that stage requires high degrees of open-mindedness because distinguishing between truth and falsehood is filled with many tricks and traps. All the best, Rocky

The most important person you should be listening to is yourself. Be careful in giving your authority away to other people. If you do that, you become a slave. A master is one who keeps their own authority and thinks critically to derive their own answers about reality. No amount of listening to other people will awaken you. That also includes myself.

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Science with a small s is what is mainly being critiqued. Big S Science, or what I call Pure Science, is contemplating, meditating, and using psychedelics to investigate consciousness. I believe Pure Science can implicitly understand the nature of consciousness, whereas conventional science is a narrow, biased method that isn't holistic enough to understand. Conventional science cares about utility not truth, whereas Pure Science cares about pure understanding of reality. The people who are laughing and strawmannirg aren't doing Science (with capital S), they are doing pseudoscience.

The barrier for modern, conventional science that dismisses the spiritual and mystical elements of consciousness. Not all forms of science have the same hidden assumptions that modern, materialistic science has. Science with a capital S encompasses spirituality and questions all assumptions such that it seeks pure understanding, which means to be completely without bias. This is the kind of science we want modern, conventional science to evolve to; otherwise, humanity will never progress/develop beyond stage orange. If Consciousness cannot know itself, then complete awakening/omniscience must be an illusion assuming the base layer consciousness cannot know itself. But I guess that is the issue that reality is faced with -- Existence/Consciousness is prior to knowing. This means that knowledge of anything is an illusion because existence precedes knowledge. I think I get you now.

I see a common issue then with Actualized.org and its followers of not being specific in their critique and generalizing their critiques. If you want to criticize how humans today do science, then state that your critique is that conventional, modern, materialistic science cannot do _____ or fails at ______. If we state that science cannot do or fails at _____, then we are stunting what science can do and evolve to. We want modern science to evolve to become as holistic as possible. It seems that critiques about science assume that there is only a certain way science can be done. But that is exactly what we don’t want if we truly want to understand all of reality. We must view things holistically and make it clear about what we are really critiquing. That is just my thoughts anyways.

Then what is Spirituality? Isn’t Spirituality after all, the science of consciousness/awakening? Science means “to know and understand” and there are many forms and ways of doing science. The Scientific Method is only one narrow way to investigate reality and yes, the method is limited. But that method is only one narrow domain within science and does not encompass the whole of science. That is like saying that there is only one way of doing spirituality, using The Spiritual Method of astrology. Anything that isn’t in the paradigm of astrology is bs. But that doesn’t mean spirituality is bs or flawed, but rather it is the method itself and the way it is practiced by the individual or group. Start to see that the duality between spirituality and science doesn’t exist. Doing meditation and psychedelics is a science of consciousness because there is no difference between science and spirituality/philosophy. Science = spirituality! Also consider: If it is impossible for consciousness to understand itself, since there is nothing outside of consciousness to grasp it with, then what is awakening really? Wouldn’t that mean awakening is but a dream within consciousness? If there is nothing but the Dream/Consciousness, then what are you really awakening from and into? Another dream. I talk about this more in my other post called Awakening is a Dream.

The question we overlooked is what it really means to say _______ exists. Everything that you say exists is something that is perceived or imagined within consciousness. A book exists as perceptions. If you couldn’t perceive a book or color, how would that be any different than them not existing?

Thanks for your time. I respect your answers even though I may not entirely see the same way. Wishing you the best!

Contemplation = Observation + Analysis You can have observation without analysis, but you cannot have analysis without observation. Can you have true analysis without thought?

It adds another layer to The Dream Doubt. How can we trust our own thoughts and memories if The Dream Demon swapped them with someone else? What does that say about any awakenings you think you may have?

How so? I'd like to see what he has composed for us. Give it here please! Sounds right to me.

Anyone else gonna answer? Contemplation is more important than psychedelics and meditation!

You are Me. I am The Self. Total knowledge of The Self is impossible. Truth-realization cannot be given. Who is in possession? Who would it be given to? You are not awake! You can't fool me.

Nobody on here (myself included) knows what they are talking about. No one on here (myself included) is awake or Truth-realized. Buddhism is NOT Awakening. Cessation is NOT Awakening. Meditation is NOT Awakening Psychedelics are NOT Awakening. Mystical Experiences are NOT Awakening. Hallucination is NOT Awakening. Reading a spiritual book is NOT Awakening Nothingness is NOT Awakening. Any blissful feeling you have is NOT Awakening Spiritual Enlightenment is NOT Awakening. And finally, Leo or Actualized.org is NOT Awakening. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Awakening IS Truth-Realization Truth-Realization = Complete Understanding of Reality

Infinite dimension of empty consciousness! Which I guess Consciousness is neither something nor nothing. Consciousness isn’t an object and it isn’t nonexistent. What are you really pointing to then? Nothing or something? In my experience, the only Nothing you can point to is yourself. Where you think your eyes, brain, and head are, there is nothing, but there is also everything. You really are pointing at everything which includes the nothingness behind your eyes. Consciousness is Everything!

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That's what I thought. But nonexistence does NOT exist. To speak of nothing is to speak of something, which is a contradiction. If nonexistence exists, then it would be something in existence and would NOT be nonexistence! That is one of the reasons why death is an illusion. Something that does NOT exist cannot exist. But even the concept of something to NOT exist is an idea within existence. You see the problem? It is like saying that somethingness is nonexistent.

Wondering what contemplation really is, is a form of contemplation. Although you can contemplate your goals and values and what you think about a certain issue, contemplation isn't just limited to that. It is about using the intellect to derive truth of the matter by evaluation and by eliminating all that is false, until the only Truth remains. A simple definition of contemplation is the process of deeply thinking about something to derive the truth of the matter through direct consciousness. Another definition is using the intellect to eliminate all that is false! Yes, contemplation is the act and process of thinking things through thoroughly to get at the truth of the matter. Curiosity, honesty, critical-thinking, and a desire for truth are what is needed to contemplate effectively. I would suggest you read The Book of Not Knowing by Peter Ralston or watch Leo's videos on Contemplation, or watch my videos on Contemplation, but no amount of watching videos and reading books on Contemplation will get you any closer to Contemplation. At some point, the books become a distraction from you doing the practice. You have to sit alone in nature with a journal and think deeply. Contemplation is deep thinking and truthful evaluation. You might wonder, where do I start? Start with trying to write down The Truth. That's it. That is the only question, "What is true?" Start by doubting everything you think you know. Try to get at something you do know beyond measure of doubt. See what you discover. Start with these questions: "What do I really know for certain?", "What is True?", "Who am I?", and "What do I really want?" Write your answers down so you can see your bullshit and then keep going until you have murdered The Buddha. Good luck!

Any reaction to any stage of development shows that you have not developed, transcended, nor understood that stage. Reality is a mirror, and you are hurting yourself.

Wow! That was beautiful and extremely profound! You have a gift and found your purpose and niche. Congrats! Consider doing a longer documentary and interviewing a diversity of individuals for future films. I think YouTube could be a good place to start. You might want to send clips of your films to production companies. Best of luck!

Consider that the majority of humans aren’t ready to “decrease their ego.” Even most “spiritual” people aren’t even ready. Your survival needs have to be met before the needs for self-actualization and self-transcendence can be met. To transcend the ego, you first need to develop a healthy and strong ego. Spirituality is easily used as a “bypass” from working on egoic needs. Skipping these steps to developing a healthy ego first is a mistake/trap. Becoming egoless right now in your life won’t improve your life as you think it might. Consider that. Good luck!

Leo is behind your imaginary eyes looking out.

Who is it that has awakened? Who is it that wants to share the “awakening?” Why does it want to share? The it I am referring to is ego. The ego cannot awaken because it doesn’t exist. But even so, as long as you are sucking air, the ego and maya will be always with you.