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@Mongu9719 I literally asked you to show the research that shows this, no need to be a dick in response. If you make claims that we can live forever etc, then I’d like to see the research please. also, as I said it doesn’t really effect spirituality or your journey much, just means you get a longer and better experience in this vehicle, what’s bad about that?

Agree, but good luck explaining that to people on here ?

This video isn't necessarily about Neo-Advaita, but more about 'Halfway' teachings, that only give half the story. This is commonly known as: The path of exclusion, Neti-Neti, The Void etc and is a remarkable breakthrough, and is often essential to take a step back from the world to realize ourself as Natural Pure Awareness, and our true being. But, many seem to end there, and think suddenly Life in terms of the world is just over. This is why Traditional Indian/ Eastern teachings always felt very unnatural to me, things like forced Cellibacy (can occur naturally, whole other conversation), the denial of life general just felt incomplete. You could call that the 'Inward' part of the path, which is ESSENTIAL as I said, but far from complete. The next 'step' so to speak, is to then go back out in the so called world, with this understanding of our true being, and live this understanding in life- Relationships, Work, Activities, Thoughts and Feelings. Anyone can be at peace alone in their room, that isn't that much of a true 'test' of an awakening, as Ram Dass (RIP <3) said- 'If you think you're enlightened, go and spend a week with your parents.' It's of course a joke but illustrates this point well. I feel many fall into this trap of demonizing the world, body etc and simply Crystalise here. Integrating and expressing this outward path is most commonly seen in the Tantric approach, where the World, Body and Mind are actually embraced instead of denied. It is also happening a lot more in the West as Westerners merge their love of the world, with this true understanding of their own being. Once you know your true being, the world is no longer something that needs to be denied or run from, it can instead be a vehicle and an expression of this true understanding is the most beautiful ways possible. It gives us complete freedom to express this understanding in all realms of experience, and is the final peace and joy that is meant for us. Non-Duality= Duality. I think this video is a great example of this, and explains this well. Rupert says it better than I ever could

@Preety_India yes that’s exactly my point! I LOVE Ramana, but at the end of the day he lived in a diaper on a mountain and was celibate all his life, yet his teachings are as pure as it gets, that was just his way of expressing this understanding. Whereas, Ruperts way is his way etc, I regard Nisgardatta and Ramana as the 2 greatest wages of the 20th Century, they are amazing, yet Nisgardatta sold Cigarettes and slept with prostitutes after his wife passed away, I probably won’t integrate them parts ?

@Preety_India Yes, sorry if I didn’t mention it enough but the cultural issues are very very true, I think Rupert mentioned it in his video, but sorry if I didn’t make that clear, it’s a very cultural thing, although I think that’s also one of the benefits of the teaching coming over to the west potentially, as it allows it to flourish in life. However, this was prevalent in Tantric traditions way before. It was more about pointing out the life denying teachings that made it seem like you HAD to deny life, but like you said it is complete freedom to do as you wish whether that’s meditate in a cave or have a family. I have great respect for eastern teachings, and often quote Ramana and always say how amazing him and Nisgardatta are, sorry if I offended that was the last thing I was trying to do

HUGE Rupert fan! back when I was a hardcore seeker I was obsessed with him for months! I think I watched like every YouTube clip and read most of his books ? you’re certainly following the right kind of people, Rupert has certainly realised the true nature of his being, an incredible teacher also! However, I ended up working 1-1 with another teacher, as he so popular he doesn’t really do that, and his retreats are usually quite full and expensive, an amazing teacher none the less and his explanations are often beautiful!

@Mongu9719 Can you share these findings? It's great that we will be able to live longer! I don't think it's possible to never die, but who knows I could be very wrong. Plus, Impermanence will still be very prevalent, this moment right now is unique and impermanent, it will pass, if you live longer you'll have more 'Moments' but that doesn't change the fundamental truth of reality, Everything is always here and always now!

@BETGR164128 Through normal ingestion or using it how?

@BETGR164128 Aside from what you recommended, is there any other uses of it?

@Nahm Very Zen!

@Nahm Thanks man, Hope you're good and I'm sure you're giving your students the complete teaching in your sessions! @jimwell Yes, I worked with my teacher for 9 months, I've written a lot about that and RASA on here already so won't go into that. I only talk from direct experience regarding awakening, it's why I don't recommend Psyces as I've hardly done them, and just simply point out the dangers of young people doing them/ doing them excessively. (Not that they can't be amazing and incredibly effective, and of course very healing) Conceptual understanding does literally 0 in terms of your own experience, I conceptually understood I was 'Natural Pure Awareness' for ages before ever experientially understanding it. Even before awakening, teachings around Cellibacy and Denial never sat well with me, kind of like 'there's still something missing' and I'm glad I followed that feeling and didn't just begin denying life, Celibacy, and denial of sexuality doesn't tend to work well at 18! You are doing the right thing by not parroting, that won't help you or anyone else, what it seems like you need is a direct experience of the truth of you being. I would recommend either starting with a Natural Pure Awareness Meditation or a True Self-Inquiry practice. These will help you realize and experience the unshakeable silence and truth of your own being, but it won't be all sunshine and rainbows to begin with. As I briefly said in my post, the Inward path is necessary for most people, To separate themselves as Awareness from Things/Objects/World etc, it seems that would be the first step for you, to realize this. So, before worrying about expressing this understanding and the Tantric/Outward path, focus on truly investigating and realizing the true nature of one's being. If you ever need any help, or are confused feel free to message me, the main purpose for me coming onto forum is to try and help people, as I know how confusing and downright shit being a confused seeker can be. I remember the days of overthinking these issues until I gave myself headaches, or watching Non-Duality videos for hours upon hours on end, reading book after book. Always remember, only You can truly find the truth, teachings are meant as pointers and helpers, but it is always down to you to find the truth of your own being. Have a great day!

@Ismael If you haven't the 2 other books I'd recommend by Ramaji are: 1000 No Mind, No Problem Have a great day!

Personally, in my awakening I never experienced the heart on the right, but read about it in both of Ramajis books 1000 and Who Am I? I would recommend going to a physician, I think he recommends doing that first, and if all your tests in order then there's a good chance you're experiencing the dropping away of the I-Thought, which is such a beautiful experience, albeit can be tough at times So, I would recommend getting the all clear from a qualified Doctor, nobody on here can really say it's 100% not heart problems, until you get tested Plus better to be safe than sorry!

@BETGR164128 Do you mean a powder like this or? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Classikool-Sodium-Ascorbate-Nutritional-Vitamin/dp/B07FK7YBXB/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Sodium%2BAscorbate%2BPowder&qid=1583329216&s=drugstore&sr=1-2&th=1 From the comments, seems like there are other benefits. @mandyjw I will try that, thank you!

Rupert is AMAZING as always. 'The COE should change their wedding vowels, so at the end, you simply stare your partner in the eyes and say 'I don't need you. I don't need you for my happiness.' 'If the peace of your being, is only accessible when you aren't interacting with the world, that's a fragile peace, not a true peace.' 'It is necessary to take that (inward) understanding out to the world, and not only express this understanding but also test it in a relationship and for most of us intimate relationships. These are the most testing relationships.'

@Michael569 I was counting on you for some awesome advice Maybe, I got lucky and caught this earlyish, I'm going to try the advice here. I made a mixture of boiling water and Vix earlier and have done deep breathing twice over the bowl and my nose hasn't felt clearer for months! So, I will keep doing this and try everything else recommended here and do more research!

It will make your Game way more conscious if you have a true awakening into the truth of your own being, good luck manipulating someone into bed when you literally are them, it's like manipulating yourself. If you truly awaken to love you won't be able to do that. It will enhance your ability in most areas though, coming from a fulfilled place is much healthier than coming from a needy place.

@DrewNows Thanks for the ideas mate. And, that juice recipe sounds awesome, I seriously need to get a juicer. @Derek White I will try that thank you, I could get outside more. I mainly workout in the Gym, Exercise Bike or Swimming in the winter, so that's a good point. In terms of sleep, I get 7-8 hours a night and eat WFPB. @Commodent Maybe I'll get another and bigger air purifier for my room or something? @Preety_India Yeah I figured Steam will help, it helped this morning and going to switch to Steam Room instead of Sauna for a while. @Anna1 Yep, going to attempt to book the doctors today. I'm sorry about your son, I hope he can resolve it

@Keyhole Yeah they CAN be distractions, but post-awakening life is literally meant to be enjoyed and embraced as it is. I know that relationships can be distractions on the path when you're a seeker, I considered this many times. If you don't think there's integration, then I'm sorry that's just incorrect, integrating awakenings is key. For example, Integrating 'my' awakening to love, involved a lot of changes in how I relate and my own relationships, as you literally know people are You, and operate simply from a place of love. Also, I used age to indicate the other guys' responses, as they were quite childish. Can you please explain what age has to do within my context? It's not like there's an age barrier to awakening, or realizing your own being. I am merely talking from direct experience of awakening to love, and the impacts it had and is having in my own life. Also, Distractions=The Path, if you can only live this understanding in a cave with no people around you then to me, that is not a complete understanding. True peace and happiness, is being at absolute peace and happiness, no matter the situation. I was like that for a while, I just wanted to sit in my room in bliss all the time, it is subtle denial of the 'world out there' instead of embracing this world as it truly is, here and now as The Buddha Planet itself. I'm also wondering about your own journey and awakenings if you don't mind sharing? Lastly, post-awakening what is there to distract you? Distract you from what? THIS is always it, here and now. But, I guess it's an individual thing like I said, not everyone wants or is ready for a relationship, it's like a must-have like our society makes out, it is simply about whether as an individual you wish to develop one, everyone is different.

@IJB063 Well no, it's not necessarily needed, it varies from person to person. Ramana Maharshi remained Cellibate his whole life, whereas Rupert Spira and Francis Lucille have wives, it depends on what YOU want on an individual level, if you don't want a romantic relationship then don't have one, but like with most things, it isn't a one size fits all solution. If you don't know then you haven't experienced being in love, there would be no doubts there if you had I think, plus 16 is really young for a relationship, I would say don't rule out the potential since you are only 18 mate. Isn't that the same for all feelings though? My feeling of depression could be different from yours, as, with anxiety, joy, etc, it's all subjective. Love=Consciousness, the problem is no matter how many times you read it, it doesn't matter. I had a great theoretical understanding as a seeker still didn't mean I was at peace or happy. Only by awakening and experientially understanding it, does the true changes in your life happen. Yeah, I also had a great experience on MDMA when I was 17 that speared me on to take spirituality way more seriously, but 'Universal' love goes way deeper, Love is literally the fabric of the universe and is the greatest force binding us, yet because we are not in touch with this, look what kind of 'World' we create on an individual and collective level. When you become conscious of your own being and abide as that, and awaken to love, you will gradually, naturally deepen your love continuously. There is no end to the depth of love. This doesn't mean you have to go and feed the poor, it can literally be simple things in everyday life, Love will literally pour out of you and want to be expressed. I would say Romantic Love done 'right' is an incredible gift to humanity, when 2 beings love each other as themselves and love each other more than life itself it is them merely expressing their true being, it is a beautiful experience. Of course, some movies are cheesy, and relationships aren't all fairytales, but they can be truly amazing and a great gift to one's life. Of course, the problems come when you are not fulfilled or do not love yourself, so look for scraps of love in the world and demand love from your partner and for them to make you happy. In your case, you're 18 (tbf I'm only 20) I really wouldn't write off romantic love after one GF at 16 mate, turn within and look within with complete freedom, if you had the complete freedom to design your dream life would you picture a Women with you? A family? A life of solitude? Everyone is unique and has unique wants and needs on a human level, it's about thinking for yourself and finding out what YOU want, not what philosophers wanted, or what anyone else wants. In regards to your comment about Spirituality, I hate to break it to you but you don't 'Transcend' mundane life post-awakening. A true awakening is when The Ordinary, becomes The Extraordinary. Perfection can be found in EVERYTHING, despite it not being 'Perfect' by the conventional sense of the word. You can't transcend past this life, unless you want to leave this body. But, why do you want to transcend past this life? I would investigate that, as that searching and seeking for something more can spearhead an incredible journey to realising your own being, and realizing you don't need to transcend anything, THIS right here, right now, is it Good luck my friend. P.S. I dunno what teachers you follow/ read/ listen to, but in your case, I would recommend teachers such as- Rupert Spira, Francis Lucille, Ramaji& Ananda Devi, and Adyshanti. These are fully self-realized beings, a lot of teachers are of course awake, but haven't 'gone all the way' so to speak. for now, as the language and cultural differences are hard I would stay away from Ramana and Nisgardatta. Only because if you take them literally, it can leave you more confused than before.

@DrewNows Hey man, this has been going on for months though, and I've never done a prolonged fast- longest is 24 hours, which I've only ever done twice. And, the first one was after this continuous blocked/ stuffy nose happened. I ask on a daily basis- 'It's too cold' it's genuinely pushing me towards moving out very soon, I know it's causing me a lot of issues. In terms of what I'm dispelling, it's without sounding disgusting basically Phlegm, normal blocked nose stuff, but I Sauna/ Steam Room 3 times per week, maybe I'll focus more on Steam to help. In terms of water, I drink around 2-3L a day. And thank you, I've been drinking a lot of Green and Ginger tea.

All you're doing is simply creating beliefs that will block you from ever finding true romantic love. You also said 'Spirituality is about transcending' that comment alone shows how much work you need to do, this is a common trap, that people believe they will become enlightened and are suddenly no longer human. That couldn't be further from the case. Yes, a lot of romantic love turns ugly and horrible, however, true romantic love is worth fighting for and brings incredible experiences and feelings of joy, otherwise, people wouldn't bother, as relationships do take work, but when with the right person, they are more than worth it. It also seems you've come here with your mind made up, no matter what anyone says. What it seems you really need is to stop theorizing about romantic love and go and experience it for yourself, and also it is clear, you have not had an awakening into universal love, at least not a full one as this thread would not read like it does if you had. True Awakening is about becoming more in touch with your emotions than ever before, not becoming an emotionless robot, which it seems you could be on the path to if you aren't careful. Also, how old are you out of interest? Some of your replies have been quite childish and immature, and if you haven't had direct experience of Romantic Love, it's like having a theory on how Honey tastes without ever tasting it. @Keyhole, Of course, an awakening to Love as the truth of reality is more fulfilling, but true integration is bringing that awakening and understanding into everyday life, including into all relationships and romantic ones. You can have both, it's not like it's awakening to love, OR having a romantic relationship. In fact, a true awakening to love will only improve your romantic relationship, as you will no longer NEED your partner, but simply be with them because you WANT to. Coming into a relationship, from that vantage point is incredible and allows for the true blossoming of a relationship. I know before when me and my GF felt like we NEEDED to be together and were just staying together for the sake of it, it was terrible, compared to now where it is simply because we want to. Look at the problems in the world, they can be boiled down to a lack of love at their core. Wars? Lack of love and realisation that you are merely attempting to fight yourself. Obesity? Lack of love for yourself and your own health and body. Relationship issues? Lack of love and understanding in your relationship. These are merely simplifications to express a point, and issues, of course, run WAY deeper and need correct and nuanced solutions, but the point is that realization of Love shouldn't be the end goal, you are then free to express this love in all area of your life. I would be careful not to demonize romantic love and relationships, not only are they amazing and incredible, but a partner can really help expose your own delusions and behaviors.

@TrynaBeTurquoise LOL I remember how much of a militant Vegan he was when I first went Vegan in 2015, I'm sure he put more people off than helped This is so fucking funny

@DecemberFlower Ego isn't the best word, as it has so many meanings and connotations in spirituality. The final understanding is that you are The Self/ The Absolute, EVERYONE and EVERYTHING is, the world is merely The Self, nothing exists outside of it. Simultaneously you are able to have a unique human experience as a unique expression of The Absolute, and fully be YOU on a human level, despite the fact that you as a 'Little I' doesn't actually exist. Investigate and all you will find is space, silence, and emptiness, the thoughts aren't happening to someone they are just happening. However, we can still function on a human level, if we didn't it would be impractical. However, when you look around, at people, you know they are literally you, your very Self, yet are also unique expressions of this. This rids you of any 'I'm more enlightened than you!!' 'OMG I'm so enlightened and special.' That's complete BS, there are simply beings who have truly recognized their own nature, and those who aren't conscious of this yet, but they are still The Self, how could it be any other way? It is the greatest paradox to see that your 'Little I' literally doesn't exits and cannot be found, yet you can still experience your Uniqueness as a Human Being. I can't really put it into words. Some, lose function for a while as they Integrate like Ramana, usually, this comes from sudden spontaneous awakenings. But, yes you realize you don't exist and realize the true nature of your own being, but also get to live as your Unique Human. The Self wants you to embrace THIS as it is, and THIS includes your human experience, denying it, is simply denying reality. You could say it's like getting your cake and being able to eat it too. It's truly amazing The Freedom of basking in the Non-Dual knowing of The Self, while simultaneously embracing and enjoying your own individuality is the final peace and joy. It's true freedom. Before awakening, you believe yourself to be simply a separate little me who exists in its own right and as we know this creates HUGE issues. Just look around you! Early awakening you then realize Non-Duality, and can sometimes negate Duality, just basking in the joy of realizing the truth about reality as it is. Full Self Realisation, realizing the truth about your own being allows you to not only bask in the Non-Dual freedom of awakening, Abide as The Self, and allow the peace and happiness that comes with that, but also embrace your individuality and humanity like never before, and enjoy 'Duality' like never before. It really is the greatest gift one could ask for. Non-Duality=Duality, so why deny either? Hope that answered your question, I tried the best I could in words, but ultimately the truth can only be experienced. This was a huge blockage and confusion for me as a seeker though, so I tried my best

@Javfly33 Se;f-Inquiry is a 24/7 Inquiry, until you get it, then it becomes effortless abidance as what you are. I'd recommend the books I mentioned above, they really helped me. I know EXACTLY what you're going through, it's one of the hardest phases of being a seeker.