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I'm actually reading a book called 'Glucose Revolution' about this and I don't think its as simple as your making out from what the science shows Essentially any sugar / starches / carbs (including fruit) causes the biggest glucose spikes, which is where the issues come in when people do this multiple times a day. She's not saying to eat fruit / carbs but just doing it in the best way for digestive health and maintaining a stable glucose throughout the day Which is to start meals with the Fibre (veggies), then fats / protein & finish with carbs where possible, or have some kind of Fibre based starter like a salad. Fruit / Sweet treats should be Dessert as this causes less of a spike, and not as snacks throughout the day. And, you can even add in movement after a meal to lessen the spike. Also, its kind of ironic I've been adding in the green starters before Morning Oats etc and you defo feel a lot fuller & have more sustained energy I think a lot of things are a lot more nuanced, but a lot of people like black & white, especially with things like Nutrition & Exercise

@King Merk I've seen Carnivore work very well as a short-term elimination diet for people with issues similar to yours. However, from the long term RCTs & Meta-Analysis its pretty clear eating a High Sat Fat animal based diet increases the risk of several chronic diseases such as Heart Disease, not to mention the lack of Fibre issue. (Colon cancer risk) Have you ever done a test to see if you have underlying gut issues or certain sensitivities that was causing the issues? Also, to be honest I think a lot of plant based diets aren't prepared sufficiently, so that could've been an issue. It takes a lot of effort- 40+ plants a week, making sure the 8 nutrients of focus are taken care of etc- not to mention the wide array of Vegan junk that is available now I know there's a lot of Anecdotes that point both ways to feeling better, removing xyz, but there's a reason anecdotes are regarded the lowest form of scientific proof & RCTs / Meta Analysis are regarded as the best

Haha, I never expected to come on here and see Leo talking about football Yeah, this is the weirdest & most corrupt world cup ever, considering the guys who accepted the bribes from Qatar originally went to prison, that set the precedent. But, it also raises the question, how many people would accept a 20-30 Million bribe & sell their soul so to speak? I think a lot more than we think. Honestly though, what do you think the solution is to things like this? Because, this WC is a highlighted event, we see it. Yet, countless human rights violations & horrific work conditions are occurring globally right this second, but because it isn't for a major sporting event, its not highlighted. This is not to downplay the seriousness of corruption that went into this, but it started with FIFA actually accepting the bribes to give a country not fit to host, the world cup... However, its still coming home...or it'll be 60 years since it last has.

Just received blood tests back after 7 1/2 years vegan. For reference I drink alcohol socially, don't smoke & have a history of type 2 diabetes in my family (mum & grandad). As far as I'm aware there's no real history of heart disease, but certainly is of cancer, but sadly, these days that seems very normal. @Michael569 Is going to analyse them for me (HIGHLY recommend working with him!!), as there was 1 slightly concerning reading, then if he approves I will post them here & re-post again in 6-12 months as I only read this book this month, and have certainly slacked on the WFPB in certain areas!

Hmm. that's an interesting point! I guess by ultra processed I kinda mean the 3 bullet points you put and not foods like Tofu & Lentil pasta erc I mean usually the kind of person eating a Tofu Lentil pasta w/ Veggies isn't the same as someone having a big mac for lunch. I'm also with you on the 3 points, and understanding we live in an obesogenic environment, as well as how hard it can be for many parts of society to learn about nutrition, afford healthy meals etc makes it easy to see why we are, where we are. 'Big Food' know this of course though, hence why they purposely confuse people & promote the 'moderation' argument, cos 99% of people (including myself) struggle with 'moderating' junk food once you have that first bite. So, I guess it goes back to avoiding those hyper-palatable foods except for when you are allowing yourself to indulge (social gatherings. holidays and the sort) as by simply not buying it, you're not only developing healthy everyday habits, you add a HUGE barrier to consuming it if you have to go to the shop, compared to pull it out the cuboard

Yeah, they're all included in the book, just done a blood test today, maybe I'll post here as be interesting to show 7 years vegan results & Testosterone... Oil he basically recommend cold pressed olive oil

@thepixelmonk Yeah I agree, personally I had issues without supplements when I first went Vegan at 15 and feel optimal with Omega 3s, B12, Vit D (live in the UK haha) & a basic Vegan multivitamin. I would rather be optimal, and this is covered in the book. And, agree, I go to the gym, and we talk about Creatine & protein & that's no issue, it is a weird one. Yet you bring up CVD and suddenly its vegan propoganda.... @StarStruck Lol, the guys already a millionaire from previous brands, all profits of the book go to charity & tbh there isn't that much money in promoting people buying Fruits, Veg & Legumes. There is a lot of money in ultra processed foods tho, hence why they can lobby billionsssss Sure there probs is some Vegan snake oil, but I don't really see the people promoting WFPB + a few cheap supplements as the issue Sure you get the 'Vegan XYZ' ultra processed shit (which is spoken about in the book), but you that with every way of eating the real snake oil tends to come from the fitness industry in my experience, as supplements are the big $$$ there Personally think Anti-Nutrients are exaggerated & easily overcome Fat & Salt I agree with, I'd argue the real monster is simply ultra processed foods, recent study showed just 4 serves a day (say orange juice, cereal, a meal deal sandwich & snack) = 62% higher all cause mortaility....more than smoking Just eat real food should be the overall message Science is easily manipulated, just go to any Fitness Twitter and they use single studies of like 25 participants to support X point, its wild

I think that first point is so key. So many issues come from 'Well Liver King looks big & strong but X doctor looks like a twig so LK must be right!' I wonder if we will ever get to a point where when you sell a program / supplement you have to actually show you're Natty status, as so many Fake Nattys get away with a LOT Also, Carnivore in the short term seems to work as an elimination diet & a paper over the cracks for those who went too extreme the other way (SAD, Raw Vegan, lots of deficiencies', gut issues etc) so I can see why we see these case studies of people in the 3-18 month range, but I suspect in the next 5-10 years lots of heart issues, gut issues from lack of fibre & a range of other things will start popping up I would say I err on the side of Religious Zealotry just because the data seems so clear, not even to mention the environmental / ethical aspects, but as you said small amounts aren't the issue. I think of it like this when I'm asked 'But vegans need supplements, so doesn't that make it incomplete' Veganism may leave you with a cup that isn't completely full, and needs to be topped up with a few things like Omegas, Vit D, B12, Iodine. (Not that most meat eaters aren't deficient in many things, for example a friend of mine who's eaten meat heavily always has been diagnosed with B12 deficiency recently) Whereas, diets involving meat are more likely to fill your cup up to the top, but come with the big additional risk of Heart & other chronic health issues SO, I'd always choose the first option since the data shows it improves the chance of longevity & combined with modern medicine that a lot of these Blue Zones didn't have it could help even further Also, having eaten this way for 7 years, it defo takes more planning for sport / protein related goals like muscle building as you have to make the effort to reach the protein, Creatine is way more important, as are EAAS etc, but I see that as a small price to pay for the overall benefits

@Stovo maybe for a lot of books especially when $$$ is involved This guy basically only got into nutritional science after his heavy meat eating doctor dad had a heart attack at 50 And, it actually goes over the best kind of studies to back up the points- Meta analysis, randomised controlled trials (RCTs), in my research a lot of the Red meat / carnivore / Keto guys tend to pull from lab studies & case studies I know a lot of people see short term success with Carnivore for example, but the lack of fibre & diversity is almost certainly going to create long term issues Personally I’m mainly interested in longevity & feeling the best, and the science is pretty clear on what diet is most likely To do that- the Blue Zones (regions with most people 100+) also support that a mostly plant based diet is what they usually eat @Matt23 whole food plant based focus on food groups, not macronutrients- fruit / veg, legumes, wholegrains, nuts / seeds etc Be fibre obsessed (and protein aware)- high fibre = key to long life, protein for my specific goals! Diversity is key for gut health - 40+ plants per week Consider nutrients of focus - B12, omega 3s, Vitamin D, selenium, iodine When we eat matters Drink water for thirst Customisation is key Don’t let perfection be the enemy of good

Bear in mind Eastern views on sexuality will be very different, due to cultural & religious views. Buddhist monks were celibate for example, but often this leads to repression. Personally I think its unique for each person, and there's no hard rules, some people have higher sex drives than others. Its more about exploring consciously I'd say, this video by Rupert Spira really helped me out when I was confused. Essentially, using sexuality in service of the understanding, not to fill a void etc

You just need to find a sport you like, I knew people who thought like this, then found their 'niche' sport and it become such an important part of their life. I think this forum often devalues Physical activity & how it can improve one's life, Sadhguru & Rupert Spira have good videos from a 'Non-Dual' perspective, but a lot of the benefits are just general life improvement.

@at_anchor Not all bread / gluten is created equally, most cheap breads are shit but you just gotta look for decent wholemeal ones with proper ingredients. Also, you'll go crazy on that diet haha, the best Nutritionist I've found is Simon Hill who helps people go WFPB (whole food plant based) but actually with taste and not some crazy prison diet He also covers the supplements needed / recommended and has loads of recipes on his sites. Most Vegan cookbooks are decent from Amazon if you find a few, just get used to cooking like Michal said and keep adding to recipes you can create at different times of day.

Would you still not recommend using glass bottled Olive Oil for the most part?

TikTok is the best way to build a platform in 2022, it really is as simple as that Yeah its not an ideal platform But, fighting against it is like being a Trad marketer fighting against the internet 15-20 years ago There's plenty of high consciousness content, you can quite literally craft your FYP to suit you

Haha it was mainly meant as a light hearted joke Not just in reference to Buddhism, but just from being on the forum I kinda noticed a lot of people seem to bypass life a lot & could probably do with living a little, using Maslow's hierarchy as an example, it seems a lot of stages are skipped I was exactly the same, so maybe I'm just talking to myself as I've benefitted so much from going back to 'Human fundamentals' Also, I understand people's 'goals' are different, that's why I resonate most with teachers like Rupert Spira & Francis who focused on Happiness, whereas, many others resonate more with Leo who is more interested in exploration.

Honestly, 99% of people here could do with good old Buddhism fundamentals A lot of this place is endless mental masturbation, and lack of real world applications I'd even go down a level and say a lot should go back to to the basics of Self-Help and life 'Just had my 26th DMT trip of the week, realized I'm the Egyptian God but can someone lend me £100 for rent and food this month please???' A lot of it has become a pissing contest imo

A question for @Michael569 & everyone else here. So, everyday we see a new miracle supplement, exercise, food, diet etc I wanted to ask what do you class as the Pillars of health that matter more than anything, and things every human should strive towards in the domain of health & fitness. (This can still include certain supplements or 'hacks') Essentially the core you would prescribe yourself & everyone else from the age of say a teenager to carry through their life- Mine would be- 90% WholeFood diet (minimum) 7-9 hours of daily sleep Daily exercise (10k steps or the equivalent) 3-4L of water Supplements vary depending on Diet but just cover basic needs + Vitamin D3 if in cold country & ideally sleep & brain supps Some form of Resistance / Weight training routine Maintain a healthy bodyweight / caloric control (happens naturally when all steps are followed) My main 'hack' would be Sauna + Cold exposure- this is SO good for sweating out all the toxins among 100 other things (Dr Rhonda Patrick explains best) I personally think some form of fasting (if you're a woman, research as more intricate how to practice due to hormones) just to learn self-control, discipline & what not Am I missing any? Or what would you add?

I read an investing book called 'How To Own The World' its from a UK perspective, but we call social security Pensions. This was written Pre Covid and the insane Gov spending that caused, and basically every single country is broke and debt riddled up to their eyeballs, but no government wants to take responsibility so kicks the can down the road. So, I'm only 22 but I've even told my parents not to expect much from the Gov in terms of pension & to plan accordingly. You can complain how shit it is & how incompetent monetary policy has been (true) but its not gonna heat your home or pay your mortgage, so at the least prepare as well through investing & building your own wealth. This is the book, great read- https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Own-World-life-changing-bestseller/dp/1473695309/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1665131404&sr=1-1

@aurum Yeah these are great points! 1) What do you recommend for people in a cold country? 4) Couldn't agree more! Everyone should learn to nose breath & sleep with their mouth taped, I was diagnosed with Asthma before doing this 5) Of course! 6) Defo- walks, being outside in general anyway you can @Michael569 Maybe you can add the type of Wholefoods to help people? I think most know to eat whole, they just don't know how (we are never taught it)

@Jannes Would love that! But after watching Black Mirror, Don't worry darling, Ready player one etc its hard to see how it won't be corrupted!

@Leo Gura 100%. First trillionaires will probs be made from VR worlds Just hope it doesn't end up all Dystopian like Ready Player One haha where the real world is absolute shit

Love of life Takes 'time' to integrate, but eventually you'll see normal life as God and love it more than ever

I would like to know how atypical you would behave when your young children are starving for days on end. The history of communism is caked in millions upon millions of deaths, it was a stage red / blue model at best based upon violent dictatorships & totalitarianism. You're best off asking people who actually lived under communist regimes, there's a big reason most 'communists' are under 25s from Western Democracy's, and not the offspring of people who actually experienced it or those that did live through it...

Agree. Humans are social animals for sure, modern society definitely limits community feel massively, its a shame. However, Leo is right in that you don't want 24/7 socialization, you need that alone time, contemplation time, reading time etc to balance it, and if anything upgrade your socialization. Its amazing how everything comes back to balance And, even more amazing that balance is actually nuanced and not the same for everyone One person's social balance may be completely different to another and that's fine I think this is why studying personality & in particular your own is crucial, understand what makes you tick and what you enjoy, your blind spots & shadow too. All the talk of awakening / enlightenment work often leads to people overlooking personality and your own humanity

+1 Especially young people. However, people are also very different, some are naturally introverted, some naturally extroverted, and that also needs to be considered. For me, I love socializing & feel energized after if anything, so hated lockdown when there was zero socializing. But, then I also love spending time alone, so its finding the balance right for you I think.