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@FoxFoxFox Great point on the psyches, we need more guys like you around here Refreshing to see someone who gets it isn’t simply about shoving something up your arse and having amazing insights, and these peak experiences are quite simply experiences. Like @Raptorsin7 to me it sounds like you’re trying to chase a state which puts you in a constant state of seeking for more more more, you’ll realise the truth when you stop and breathe. I also agree if you want to “feel good” more often clean up your diet, exercise every single day, cold showers, breathing exercises etc, true awakening will of course bring lasting peace and happiness but not the kind you’re describing just from how you’re talking about it.

@mp22 We must now remember, Leo is the most awake human ever, and nobody else is close. have you not got the memo recently? on a serious note, as much as Leo May think nobody else is awake, I’m yet to find a teacher or really anyone in the community who doesn’t think this is just Leo experiencing Inflation, Grandeur and potentially even Narcissism. So, it’s either Leo is the grand master of awakening and 5MEO is the holy grail, and over the millennia, all awakenings are void. Or, maybe, a lot of people’s suspicions regarding Leo and his “awakening” could also be true. Who knows! Maybe, Leo has had deep insights and awakenings on these drugs, but maybe isn’t truly awakened as he claims he is and that’s why he keeps going back for more? I will not say either. Who really knows? Although, I will say, I think recent behaviour has left a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths. But, then again who are we to judge someone’s else’s awakenings? Maybe, in 100 years they will look back on Leo’s life as a great advancement in awakening and the proof of the psychedelic path. or they will look back on the first online psychedelic cult of its kind, that lead to lots and lots of issues. Or maybe somewhere in between. who knows? Focus on yourself, do the work and be your own guru, teachers are there to help you, not to idiolizse Personally I haven’t resonated with Leo for a long time, and am finding it very interesting what he is writing recently.

@andyjohnsonman Love that, wish we had a lake nearby, hope it felt amazing despite how cold it was! And Midwestern method is awesome, he's been at it 4 years so knows a thing or 2

@Shiva Well said, thank you. Aside from the nutrition which I think there’s plenty of science for. Its where I disagree with many non-dual teachers and where guys like Ramana, Rupert and Francis seem to have a deep understanding of love and equality of all living beings, why harm and exploit living beings if there’s no need to?

@Villager Albert Id argue very different, and if you know little about the meat industry I’d say get to know what you’re consuming, if you continue to after that’s up to you. Im kinda unsure how a lot of people continue to eat meat after understanding factory farming& the dairy industry. Even if the diet isn’t optimal you can certainly get everything you need and more when you plan and eat properly and supplement where necessary.

@whatthefucksgoinon Just so you know, Francis is Ruperts teacher, and who taught him the direct path. And, no you don’t! solitude and the inward path has its place but you don’t need to be a hermit, that can also come from a place of fear of the “dirty world” and protecting your peace. The only reason to do that, would be if you really wanted to, however you can be completely involved in life and completely awakened, Rupert is a great teacher. Go enjoy life! Go live!

If you’re drinking every night you probs won’t feel great very often, and your body won’t thank you much. If you’re drinking here and there as a celebration, why not enjoy yourself? If you’re drinking as an escape and way to avoid what you’re feeling and whatever else, it’s coming from a sense of lack. But, this doesn’t only apply to alcohol- TV, Movies, Sex, Video Games, a lot of other activities. Are you doing them to escape how you feel and from a sense of lack. Or, are you doing them as a means to express happiness, have some fun and enjoy life. That’s what makes all the difference. Here’s a response from Francis Lucille regarding impersonal desire on this matter: The wanting itself comes from the ego. Is this correct? Or is enlightenment, in fact, a way to manifest one’s worldly desires? Ignorance is the problem, not the ego. Our wanting comes from ignorance when we believe that our happiness depends on its fulfillment. Example of desire that comes from ignorance: I feel miserable. I don’t like it. I want to drink some champagne to get out of my predicament. The liquor store is closed, I feel even more miserable. Example of desire that doesn’t come from ignorance: for no reason whatsoever, I feel happy and lighthearted. I have this friend visiting me later today. It would be nice to celebrate friendship with some champagne. The liquor store is closed. No problem, it was just a nice idea, my happiness is not affected. The door bell rings: my friend appears, holding a bottle of champagne to celebrate the reunion. You see the difference??

@VeganAwake Exactly!!! After all words are concepts and pointers and nothing more even the “best” and “biggest” words are simply pointers to.... THIS. Robert Wolfe is awesome, but we have to remember he’s probably not awake!

@TrynaBeTurquoise Straight from good old Greenfield textbook, has he done any posts on Corona yet?

Do whatever you desire, but awakening truly means it's done in a loving way that expresses this understanding. Maybe that's orgies every night or maybe that's cellibacy, varies for each individual.

@Villager Albert Would have to hugely disagree with you there, and I've read Ben Greenfields stuff on it also. I had a deficiency in B12 and D3, ever since I started supplementing with B12, D3, EPA/DHA and a Whlefood Multivitamin, I've felt 1000000000x better, like literally on top of the world. This has reminded me to make a thread about how much my health has transformed in the last 12 months, I've also recently cleared up my sinuses with Wim Hof Method. Issues I had were mild Depression, lethargy, fatigue and mood swings. Now I'm ALWAYS at peace and happy (mainly to do with awakening thought) have unlimited energy daily, sleep like a baby, workouts have only improved (until Gyms shut here :() etc, etc I get your points, and you need to be careful going Vegan, I was a bit of a junk food vegan first 4 years and wasn't following Whole Food Plant Based, so yeah a lot of vegans will fall into that trap. We can go into studies and doctors etc, but you're on here for Self-Actualization and spirituality I guess, so I'll leave you with this. When you awaken to love, and the true nature of yourself and reality, and you realize The Self Is ALL including Animals, killing another living being for your own pleasure is certainly not an expression of this love, therefore, while I first went Vegan to clear my acne (It did that) now it is an expression of this love and understanding of The Self as EVERYTHIG meaning I want to minimize exploitation and suffering to other beings where possible, not saying I'm perfect, but in 2020, I'm sorry it isn't hard to eat Plant Based. A lot of teachers are vegetarian- Ramana, Rupert Spira, Francis Lucille etc It's the one area I disagree with my own teachers on, to me there is no hierarchy, and I don't want to murder living beings for food, and an expressing of Non-Violence and this Love, and equality of beings to me in 2020 is Veganism. I get it it's impossible to be perfect, and this isn't about morals, but is beyond morals and more about the understanding of Love, and expressing this in day to day life.

@Derek White Yeah I wasn't saying Sadhguru, he has to water down so much due to the nowadays billions he speaks to, I'll PM you, but like I said if you resonate with Leo, stick with it! I just found 1-1 sessions with teacher so helpful and effective

@electroBeam The Absolute WANTS to experience this 'human', it wants you to be a unique expression, so as well as basking in Non-Dual freedom, we also get to be unique individuals and get to experience this without any resistance, and live life to the fullest! The Ego was simply always in the way of us LIVING and LOVING! A life without love, is not a life worth living, just look at Voldermort for what an absence of love brings

Awesome message bro, hit the nail on the head, drop the 'Ego' and live life in an effortless state of flow and spontaneity without resistance to whatever is arising and with complete and total acceptance. Sometimes, that may mean dealing with a break-up, a death of a loved one, losing your job etc, but that doesn't mean you can't totally accept what has happened, feel the feelings it brings in each alive and spontaneous moment& carry on living. Funny thing is, it's always 'been like this' it's always been The Absolute/ God/ The Self running the show so to speak, yet 99.9% are just completely unconscious to this! A spontaneous, effortless life, lived in complete acceptance and harmony with what is is truly beautiful. And, the funniest thing of all? Dropping the Ego allows your true individuality and uniqueness to flourish. It's the opposite of becoming a white blanket of awareness.

@Leo Gura Of course, I didn't mean to imply that understanding and deconstructing reality in your own experience is absolutely key. I also didn't mean to imply to become a teachers sheep, teachers are helpful guidance but it's YOU that has to understand this in your own direct experience, not simply start parroting teachers or practicing without true understanding of why you are etc

It basically boils down to this. If you resonate with Leo, it means your main forms of practice will be psychedelics and regular trips, that’s essentially what he promotes nowadays. If you don’t resonate with Leo, go and find a teacher that resonates with you and work with them directly if possible, even some beings on here offer that, or just go to their retreats or listen to their teachings and what they recommend. I don’t think Leo is saying Don’t meditate or do practices, his view is just that you can’t reach the “highest levels of awakening” without drugs, at the end of the day that’s his view and if you resonate with that stick with the teachings. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t also do other practices etc. if not, go and find another teacher and see what kind of results you get. I did just that, and it was the BEST thing I ever did and transformed my life. Leo will say to me “you’re not awake” but you shouldn’t let someone’s opinion on a forum bother you that much, only you are your Guru. so for the majority of you here it’s either: 1) Go with Leo, start the psychedelic path and dive as deep as possible into psyches along with Leo. 2) Go find another teacher (theres 1000s these days) and understand their teachings and whether they can help you. It will be of course different from Leo, but fully Self-Realised teachers say the same thing, with their own flavour of course. Arguing with Leo about his path and teachings is pretty pointless at this point, he’s made his mind up and all that really matters is your own direct experience, not what you read on here or what this guru said about that guru. I will say this. Leo seems more into deeper and deeper exploration into God Consciousness, than abiding awakening and the realisation of the truth of your own being, and then abiding and integrating this into life. So if you resonate with tht stick here. Majority of other teachers are more into the realisation of your own being and simultaneously reality, the happiness and peace that comes with it and then aligning all areas of your life with this understanding and the “end to seeking.” What Leo teaches is getting VERY different from masters and sages across millennia, so if you resonate with that then stay, if you don’t then find another teacher, but I’ve realised debating with Leo and his followers is pointless at this point. Have a good day everyone

Hey everyone I'm not sure exercise if emphasized enough on this forum, it's such a key part to long term health and wellbeing, and quite frankly makes you feel AMAZING. It can also be used as part of a Spiritual 'Practice' when done mindfully and can truly bring us into complete being in the now, especially when you're playing a Sport or something similar, or in 'Flow' state. I don't think I need to go on about the benefits of exercise, everyone knows them, but I thought we could all post our current exercise routine, why we do it, and what our goals/ long term plans with our routines are- how we want to improve/ change them. Maybe it'll help people start their own as well! Mine: Weight Training 3x Per Week- Following Lean Gains/ KinoBody method of Compound lifts, RPT and Rest-Pause Training, don't follow their nutrition though- eat WFPB and Health > Gains always. Training consists of Squats, Military/ Shoulder Presses, Weighted Chin Ups, Bench Press, Deadlifts, Rows, and Accessory work. Usually, follow this up with the Sauna& Cold Shower! (Highly recommend) Do this as I LOVE weight training, helps improve body composition, increases fat loss, builds stength and of course builds muscle. Also, feels amazing and gives you that extra incentive to eat healthily all the time. Will admit when I started when I was 16/17 was mainly wanting to look good, has evolved since then, but still one of the reasons is aesthetics, not main focus anymore though. HIIT- Recent addition, I was an idiot for years and hardly did cardio outside of my sport/ school when I was there. Now aim for 4-6 Tabata sets a week, mainly on off days, or post-workout. Do this as it's great for you, it's fun (and TOUGH at the end) and helps increase a number of key areas in fitness. Occasionally do a mini Interval Swim, but not very well! https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/article/fitness-articles/workouts-exercise-articles/longevity-training/ (Section on Endurance) Fasted Cardio- New one for me, but I am to get 10-30 minutes of fasted cardio in every morning before a Cold Shower, basically helps accelerate fat loss, also in the article above, also LIC so like a walk, biking, swimming etc but not high intensity Low-Intensity Physical Activity Throughout Day- I work from home, so every 25-30 minutes will take a break and go on a short walk, do jumping jacks, jump on the exercise bike etc, helps increase blood flow and emulate what blue zones do. Things like Pull Ups, Kettlebell swings great do, just don't have equipment at my house. If you work a physically active job you're very lucky in this regard. Also, gives boosts of energy throughout the day which is awesome. Finally I play a sport called Cricket in the summer, for those outside the UK I'll link a video, this is purely for fun and enjoyment and I tend to play 1-2 matches a week (they last most of the day) and then train 1-2 evenings a week, so I'm all good for cardio in summer! So, what's your guys routine with exercise? Mine has developed this year as I turned my focus towards a more 'holistic approach' to fitness, instead of just 'Gym.' In terms of what I want to add- Foam Rolling/ Proper Stretching, Some form of sprinting potentially/ Power& Speed workouts

@Javfly33 I’m not sure difficult is the right word, but it sounds like you need to start cultivating your emotions and feelings. If everything feels “neutral” it sounds like you’ve had a typical “mind” awakening which is common for westerners first (same for me). But, you need to start getting in touch with how you truly feel in each moment and allowing your feelings to be felt in each moment, don’t block or resist them. People hate doing this though, as you’ll probably have “ negative” emotions come up that you’ve repressed over the years, it was hard for me to learn to face my emotions and even things like boredom instead of running away from them. But, to Me, it’s the greatest “part” of awakening is to deeply awaken to infinite love and integrate it into your life, although it could happen organically, you can can do things such as loving kindness meditations, and self-inquiry into feelings. Also, whenever a feeling arises during the day don’t push it away but welcome it in like a guest to a guesthouse, and then from there completely feel the emotion and investigate it.

Awaken to love, it’s as simple as that. It’s true, without an awakening to love this can happen. Look at teachers like Mooji and Bentino Massano and countless others caught in abuse scandals. Even Charles Manson spoke of No-Self etc When you truly know the “other” to be yourself you want to share nothing but Love and help people. Even “normal” people know Love to be “the strongest force in the Universe” the entire Harry Potter series is based on this for example. Awaken to love, and you will realise your actions will become guided by love, truth and happiness. Why would you want to ever hurt yourself if you could help yourself?

This is an amazing and incredibly insightful post, thank you for sharing and enjoy Quarantine time! Infinite Will, Infinite Love, Infinite Joy. I loved the point about no resistance, such an accurate description.

@Aaron p I’m not saying this is (and yes I know Leo has 2 videos on this) But, just for a second look at what you wrote from a 3rd person perspective. “Leo is emptier than anyone I’ve ever met” “All other teachers have dogma, but not Leo” (and all other teachers are ignorant of course) “Leo has made all the best traditions even better! He’s purified them all for us!” “Nobody else has this, Leo is so special and unique!” “Leo has found the best technique ever!” “This isn’t normal, something very special is happening here with Leo” Surely, I cant be the only one who sees how this sounds. You can’t tell me that if any “outsider” came on here and read that message that you wouldn’t think Leo was running a cult. You’re literally saying how Leo is superior to every other teacher and tradition that has ever existed. Maybe he is, but doesn’t that sound a little bit too convenient? Again, to be clear I’m not saying this is a cult, I’m merely pointing out how that message sounds, and especially how it would sound to a “normal” person. If it was someone else saying these things I wonder how everyone here would react. Just remember at all times you’re your own guru, and to never give your power or authority away to anyone. You are the guru.

@Meta-Man ???? That is peak enlightenment, the Heroin and Meth users have been so close for so long, just needed a different drug.

@Beginner Mind In Rupert terms, don’t forget the outward path ?

@andyjohnsonman awesome man. @remember yes is amazing! @Gneh Onebar Strange, are you following the guided one on YT, that’ll give you an idea. That is strange, keep us updated. @Surfingthewave Lol, it wasn’t meant as a competition. Simply shared it to get more people involved, more of a co-operation?

@Beginner Mind Of course, as well as finding out the truth about your own being and reality itself. Yet Finding out this truth about our own being allowed us to find the inherent peace and happiness that never leaves. Never known an unhappy self realised being, let’s put it that way.