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Good luck to you mate ?

That's hilarious.? Here I am lecturing a 40 year old on how to behave in a supermarket

His youth is gone. Over. Kaput. The other side of the hill. Lol It's all downhill from now on ?

? Still, dating coaches or what not , it's still someone else's ideas tho. You can get laid if you go to a nightclub and get lucky. You can do all of that in a club and it's the right context. People want you to approach them at clubs.

No, that's not healthy. It's just another dating coach. I think we need to move away from dating coaches and start to just learn social skills, critical thinking skills, meditation, emotional healing. That kind of thing. Everything you need to relate to people is already inside. We just need to unwire the silly ideas we have picked up and start to think for ourselves about what we want from life.

You're 40? I genuinely thought you were a young guy. Your original post communication the vibe of a young person

That's my intention currently. To develop myself to become an independent thinker . I think it is crucial for enlightenment. I see through the tendancy to parrot and adopt almost religious belief systems around enlightenment. I see it a lot in the forum, or maybe im projecting? Its sometimes difficult to tell

Lol.. the internet. a double edged sword

I extend PUA to any mentality that imagines that male / female interactions are a "game". It's all the same.

What's worrying is that you haven't understood what the rejection means. You should have learned that the rejection itself is telling you something. The pua community frankly brainwashes people into interpreting reality a certain way. Once you have someone's ideas in your head, it can be difficult to grow because those thoughts are informing your world view The best thing you can do is get away from these videos about pickup and start to unprogramme yourself from it. That way you have a chance at actually improving yourself.

You don't think it's a problem, but if you look at these situations through the eyes of other people you will start to see that it's not appropriate in this context. That's why it is considered weird. To understand yourself and the world around you, you need to use your mind to empathize with other people, empathy includes seeing the world through the eyes of other people. Understanding their emotional reactions to your behaviours. Only then can you be successful with people, not just women.

According to a 2002 report by the U.S. National Center for Victims of Crime, "virtually any unwanted contact between two people that directly or indirectly communicates a threat or places the victim in fear can be considered stalking",[4] although in practice the legal standard is usually somewhat stricter. Source: Wikipedia

I see how it's easy for you to deny that your behaviour is akin to stalking. You don't just stalk one, you stalk many - because it's a numbers game, right? So that means you cannot be a "stalker" because stalkers are only fixated on one individual, right?

Honestly mate, the internet has a LOT to answer for...

True. But at least a dating site has a block feature.

Hi dude, bad luck and I appreciate the effort. I know how hard it is to do self improvement. I know it's important to question cultural norms, but I don't think that extends to approaching random women in a supermarket while they are shopping. It's good to take a look around and learn to live in harmony with society. We give schoolkids licence to be rebellious because that is appropriate for them . But once a a young person reaches the age of 16 it's around that time that they start to integrate into society and adopt social norms (basically just to get along with others and get on in life). Nobody is approaching strangers at the supermarket, it's a place people go to get their groceries and get out asap. They might go with a friend and have a coffee, and an opportunity might present itself where you can show friendliness and lighten someone's day by saying something inoffensive, humorous and appropriate to the situation. I don't think the problem here lies with the feminists, I think the problem lies in the green values fighting with blue conformist values and this has a knock on effect of a lot of our young people not being given proper guidance on how to conduct themselves appropriately in society. You could say the fault lies in greens insistence that people shouldn't have to confrom to certain standards and expectations of them.

Lol ?

@DrewNows I share my understanding of dr Morse, rose, and ehret, If they do not resonate then stop pestering me My intention is not to pester you. My intention is to deconstruct your beliefs so that they do not hurt people. perhaps, let us leave this discussion as is if you’d like to keep rating people I don't see myself as rating people. I'm using spiral dynamics as a tool. It's a very accurate way to sort out what is rational. Rationality isn't anti spiritual, on the contrary, it's pro spiritual. If you are dishonest it means you are nowhere near ready to live continuously in the present moment. People will use spritual knowledge of transcending rationality in service of propegating pre rational, pre spritual fraudulent beliefs systems. Let me also remind you that you yourself have tried to assign a level of development to morse at the very beginning of this thread. So its dishonest to say that you can assign colours to a person and I am not allowed to. ...people help themselves, I’m not here to rescue anyone, maybe I have over shared my views but that’s okay with me This is a very disingenuous thing to say. You know full well that people are open to influence. People do not make decisions in a vacuum. you don’t have the answers, continue your search, I’ll sleep now Correct, I don't have the answers. I never claimed to have the answers. I only understand how to spot someone who is trying to lie to me and then gaslight me into doubting my perceptions. It's very clear to me as evidenced by your behaviour on this thread that you have no connection to what's real, because all you have done is give me opinion, story, excuses, and your subjective internal process of how you came to believe Morse's claims. You know nothing about presenting actual information in a respectful way for another person to digest and come to their own conclusions based on facts. good for you to think such, this is my thread so Well this isn't your thread, is it? You're not a child with a toy. Youre a grown man who's supposed to be at 2nd tier and contributing "world class high level spiritual information", "the answer to all disease, a unified theory by world renowned master herbalist and transcendent spiritual master". I could go on, but I think any reasonable person can see you haven't even managed to see through the illusion of personal ownership, yet you still make claims about resonating with high level spritual masters . Do you see the incongruity here? Feel free to pm me if you have real questions regarding detox if you explore/research more I don't have any inclination to message you. Like I said at the beginning, I have seen enough morse videos (I've watched hours of them) to know that it's bullshit. I even showed you HOW it's bullshit. But my comments aren't to try to change you, they are to help others who might be considering taking this quacks advice and refusing actual effective treatment that could potentially save or prolong their life.

You're trying to define the boundaries of a conversation where you make statements of fact about health. So I'm giving you the opportunity to present a reasonable case. So far you have given a reasonable person no grounds to listen to your perspective or take it seriously. I honestly don't think you know what meaningful discourse looks like. You seem to not have passed through orange yet. Just like morse and rose have not passed through orange. A person at 2nd tier would be able to present basic health information in a way that is going to be accepted by reasonable people, because they genuinely want to help I see nothing from you that makes me think you have anything except your imagination and assumptions which you mistake for reality. As far as I can see you're a danger to yourself and a danger to others by virtue of spreading false information that could lead to people not getting the help they need. And believe me, I am also here in the sprit of sharing, but my intention seems to have gone over your head. I'm here sharing my ideas on how to spot health frauds and use questions to uncover pre rational fraudulent beliefs

Do you not think that's like another layer of denial? It's like an onion. We have this core that has been hurt, and it puts on protective clothing as armour. But inside all it wants is to connect with others. But because of the armour it complains and feels bitter and then denies it wants anything to do with others, women, other people. I think a good start (if you want to help yourself) is to spend 10 minutes putting awareness onto your body and taking it away from your mind. It only takes 10 minutes of sustained attention to see that all of this is just a convoluted story that means nothing.

Do you think you might be expecting women to be like your mother? I think you're expecting women to fit into a motherly role for you. Are you expecting to be looked after and treated with compassion ? You will be looked after by a women in very real ways, but not while you have this thing colouring your expectations. Women don't want another baby to look after. It's not appropriate for a man of your age.

@Anna1 Next he will be calling me a white knight It's a whole belief system . A bunch of deluded ideas that all support a central victim identity.

He's not even beta. He just identifies with that image. But he knows everything about spritiualtiy, so he can't even free himself from that. He's the victim of life ??

I agree 1000,000% Another delusional idea from the pua pushers is that if you get friend zoned then that equates to not being a proper man.

Oh no! Not the FRIEND ZONE!!!!? That means I'm not a man. ?