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@Arcangelo Arc, this is quality information here. Do a little experiment and try to imagine yourself out an about minding your own business and then imagine some guy who walks past you staring at your crotch area. How does it feel to have someone you're not attracted to eyeing you up? Imagine that feeling in your body and mind and understand that this is close to how women feel about your behaviour (not you) when you're out doing pick up. Women are not like us guys cos guys can get attracted just by visuals. Whereas women are not attracted by visuals. So if a woman is just going about her business and has guys checking her out, it feels the same as you being eyed up by another male. It falls into the category of unwanted attention. It's especially creepy when you're coming from a place of deficiency.

@TrynaBeTurquoise I personally find it difficult to take health advice from a guy with a protruding belly. I know this is a lame argument, but sometimes the obvious is hidden in plain sight

You must have a strong masculine side to you. Because a lot of women don't give men feedback or articulate how they are feeling because it is too masculine a trait. That why to a lot of us men women can seem so mysterious. But really women who excersise too much of their masculine by mothering a guy will actually rise her testosterone levels and drop her estrogen levels, and this causes a lot of stress physically . I try to imagine what it's like for women who are extremely feminine by nature to hold down an exec job and then come home to a guy who isnt in touch with his life purpose. I imagine the stress that causes. I think that's why a lot of women just remain single.

@Preety_India One of the traits of a person doing self development regarding criticism should be: "Interesting. I wonder what I can learn from you? Of course this may be all about you, but it could also be about me too. And what can I learn about my reaction to you giving me feedback?" A lot of the time the clue is in the reaction , but that's part of the denial function, so it's difficult to see in ourselves. I only speak from experience of seeing my own denial in process. So I'm not talking down to anyone. I've used spritual concepts to defend myself so many times in the past, like: "This is only your ego talking" And: "Stop projecting onto me" Some people are so smart and actually well developed in other areas that they identify with their brilliance as a way to deny their not so clever traits The ego is really sneaky. I even think the word "consciousness" gets bastardized in service of the ego. For me conscious just means to become conscious of something you weren't conscious of before. An identification. But once you have fixed that you can create an identity around your new higher consciousness trait.

Yeah, I agree that in some cases psychology or therapists can be useful. Other times I've seen it harm some people. I don't know why because it's a complex subject that I don't understand. But a lot of the time just observing without judgement is enough. That being said, it even takes some time to learn to understand what even that means. People can instead dissociate, meaning that their ego disowns the trait. Disidentification means the ego holding the trait in place literally dissolves Subtle nuance, but critical to understand

@Samuel11 Have you tried just cutting masturbation down to once a week?

The tricky thing about any identification like the vitcim role is you don't see it. That's why journaling , observing non judgementally or participating in a forum is useful, because eventually there comes a time when that feeling comes in and you start to cringe at your own behaviour This is the time that it's super important not to judge yourself too much because judgement can cause you backlash and cause you to become identified again because the shame is sometimes too overwhelming. Identification is a tricky thing because it's made of thought feeling behaviour and a sense of identity that needs to be seen for what it is. But the upside is that once you're free of an identity it's much easier to see it creep back in and therefore much easier to stay conscious.

There is definitely no seeker of the rainbow body here. But I appreciate the sentiment, it is universal truth for any subject one is wanting to learn about

@JustThinkingAloud I have found it useful over the years to oscillate back and forth between activity and discussion. I've used forums to do this and upgrade, tweak my understanding. Action happens anyway whether it's deliberate or not, you cannot not talk about something and it be separate from your behaviour . I've changed a lot over the years by talking and then forgetting about it consciously (taking a break from the work) and then returning to it much later. I found that it definately sinks in. I feel like I'm now mastering stuff I learned in theory like 10 years ago. It's not as clean cut as you say.

Because I'm lazy and it seems too woo woo to spend any time researching. Just curious

Why would one even want to achieve it? Seems pointless to me. What are the benefits?

Yes, he does

It takes time. I have faith in him

This is what the dating coaches and pick up artists want you to believe. It's like hypnosis, one little idea can organise so many thoughts and behaviours.

@Arcangelo You don't have to identify with orange thoughts either. You don't have to identify with anything. I think if you do some genuine inner work you can get yourself to begin to learn to take different views. You can learn to see you how others view you. That's extremely empowering and way more valuable than finding someone to have regular sex with.

Naaa. This is a popular misconception about AH's model. You don't need sex before you can fulfil the other needs. You can find loads of examples of people who lived successful lives who died while still a virgin! If you look hard enough you can debunk AH and his model. It's partially true, but the hierarchy of needs is untrue

I agree. But what if her preference is to ignore the absolute truth and focus on her preference? Are you making a case that the absolute truth is better than focusing on our preferences?

Well it is. You wouldn't be here if you didn't think so yourself ?

What's the context of worship?

Dude, if you want to split hairs I could just as well say that Justin Bieber is also a projection of your own creation.

@Preety_India I think Lento is playing with some green ideas. All well and good. But yes, you're right.

I can see this thread generating a ton of quality discussion. ,??

@ROOBIO Wow! ? People getting enlightened on the forum. What a great place to hang out. Congratulations!

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My friend, being rude is a serious turn off. Being rude communicates that you have problems with learning socialisation, and on the level of her survival instincts she will rejects you just for that. She may even start to educate you depending on how angry she is at you. If she doesn't retaliate, trust me, you will be the butt of her jokes between her and her friends for months, maybe even years . Don't be rude or aggressive to anyone let alone a woman. Just read this thread from start to finish if you want to learn.