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Notice I didn't sling green, what I was suggesting is that green not be allowed to be the dominant force in politics, but yellow to impose it's integral views on society in order to use the healthy parts of each structure which will put each structure in its rightful place as an integral part of the whole. Greens ideas are needed, but it needs to be integrated with orange and blue. Currently green orange and blue are at war and just blaming orange and blue for all the problems is short sighted, because the reality of it is we need orange and blue, and green, but we need them to behave themselves and see themselves as partial truths rather than absolute truths

Ok, yeah that's very difficult to articulate for me at the moment because away from the theory side of it (forum) I'm more present and responding energetically and intuitively to my environment. From that place I understand that there really is no fixed personality in a person, I just respond without thought. If some examples pop up in a more clear moment I will return to your question and answer as clearly as I can

@Nivsch @NivschNothing wrong with greens policies , equal opportunities and the like. The down side of green is that even though its reached a profound level of truth, in practicality is still delusional because it's always trying to turn everything into green. It's actually part of the problem. Yellow will take greens ideas (because that is what is needed at the moment) but be able to mediate between the different colours in order that they understand each other better. Currently the state is one structure trying to impose it's values over other values. Yellow understands the importance of each values system in relation to the overall health of the spiral. So yellow can tease appart the pathological aspects of a meme and the healthy aspects of a meme and therefore transform it so that it plays it's part in the whole without turning into a bully. Green doesn't have any of that capacity because greens idea of health is to just turn everything into green.

@Lento The problem with that there is no one universal way to interpret. That's why it is crucial to develop 2nd tier cognition so that you're able to effectively communicate what you want to say to another by picking up on and resonating with their world view. So far you're approaching this from an orange perspective. If you observe a very green centred person they try to communicate a position with red and it just falls on deaf ears/gets interpreted according to reds level of understanding the world. To be effective with red , to get your point across, to make sure you are understood, you need to talk in red language. Observe how this happen on the forum. Someone will talk turquoise with me and it will go straight over my head. But I wonder about that, because if they were truly turquoise then they would be able to make their point known to me in a way I can hear it. A clue for me to spot a fake 2nd tier person is their lack of taking responsibility for being heard, and instead they shift blame onto you for not "understanding" them or "projecting". They should understand worldviews and should have integrated all of what comes below. So for a 2nd tier person to say "you're not understanding me" shows they are probably only reaching turquoise states on maybe psychedelics without doing the work.

Online dating is like this: Thousands of men all lacking purpose direction and totally conditioned by society, all of them unattractive , even the guys who are 10's looks wise. If you were a woman and you had thousands of men who inadvertently expressed feminine energy and were wasting their lives sniffing around for scraps of pleasure and external fulfulment and had very little or no masculine presence (because that's what 99.9% of men's online dating profiles sub communicate) wouldn't you choose only the best looking of a bad bunch to waste some time with? Literally that's how it is.

How's that working for you ? Lol

I'm sure it does But your mental masturbation, cherry picking and parroting ideas you don't understand still don't change the facts. Do they?

And this is your judgement. This is what happens when people parrot teachers, they end up with egg on their face.

Anyone with half a braincell can see your cherry picking and biased.

@TrynaBeTurquoise Why so defensive? The guy isn't healthy for the reasons I explained. There's no speculation about it, you can see the belly right before your eyes. That has health consequence. The one who speculation is you by saying "probably" . Judgement would be like me calling him a wanker. You should learn the difference between being judgemental and being discerning. Nobody is judging him. Nobody knows they are naieve until they learn about niaeveity

Ok, Weil is not a fitness coach, granted. His own advice should be working for him to keep a healthy BMI (inflammation) and a healthy liver (protruding gut is a sign he has developed a fatty liver). Excess visceral fat is not only toxic and inflammatory but actually extremely dangerous and is a huge risk factor for cancer development. If he's interested in epigenetics then surely he would be doing things that turn on the expression of certain genes to keep his weight low by eating the right diet. It's just common sense. Eating healthy and regular excersise are the two most important aspects of health, keeping the weight down is extremely important. Especially if his business is integrative medicine, because diet and exercise are the cornerstone of integrative medicine. Weil looks like hes not even got the basics covered. Sorry dude, but I just wouldn't listen to this guy's advice.

Forget about resources and concentrate on discovering your life purpose. When you discover that then everything you do moment by moment, the women you meet, the woman you chose to eventually settle down with, every interaction you have, should be in service of that purpose. Next time you see a woman ask yourself "how will talking to this woman serve my life purpose? Where does she fit into my life?" If you can't answer that question then don't try to make contact with her. Don't even look at her. Take this attitude with everything in your life. For example your employment. Ask yourself: "How does this job I'm in serve my life purpose?" If you don't know the answer then quit the job and find a job that serves your purpose. Live in the present moment, rooted in the lower half of your body. Don't approach the present moment from your intellect, instead feel the moment. Live from your body paying extreme attention to everything that is. Put your attention on the people you meet and interact from that place. If you find yourself escaping into your head just return to the now. If you have these things covered, everyone around you will feel safe, not just women. If you sort these things out you will see for yourself that women don't care about your resources. All they really want is to be with a guy who is embodied. The things we are talking about on this thread are just theories. They help because they create a model for you to see your sticking points. But self actualisation is just really living life as presently as possible so that your "stuff" stops creating karma for you.

@Emerald This^^^ Ok, so let's not bring egalitarian ideologies into this discussion which is primarily about masculine and feminine polarity and how to create it in a healthy holistic way. Let's not forget who we are addressing here, we're trying to bring new paradigms to guys who are struggling with the dating world. It's hard enough to sort through out all the BS that's on the internet. We don't really need a debate on whether any of it is real or not. Dating and relationships are real, and are important to everyone. We need integral ideas, not post modern theorising that does nothing but distort the picture. Thanks for commenting Emerald. I must check out your channel soon.

@outlandish 2 hours? Any edited interviews?

@Javfly33 Sounds like it came as a bit of a shock to you? It will pass. Not everyone has the same reaction

I don't want to ignore you, but I have reported you for trying to derail a serious thread

You are trying to draw me into a compulsive mind game that I know will end in getting this thread locked. If your intention here is not to help people but to express your immediate impulses then just start your own thread and the mods will eventually come to a deacon about your overall intentions here. But please don't attempt to sabotage productive threads.

Just start another thread. It's not hard. ????

Let's not go off topic. This thread has the potential to change lives lol We should talk about how animals have social hierarchy and masculine feminine differences aswell. But not on here.

Is conditioning separate from nature tho? That's the big question

Who says you have to listen to rap and be involved in hood culture? Just because you share the same humanity doesn't mean you have to share the same mentality. Listen to rap if you like rap. The popularity of hood culture is increasing in my country, the UK, because of the European Union. Free movement of people attracts red centred people from poorer countries and the police don't have the budget to deal with certain crimes. The police are very frugal with their budgets. People understand this and so more crimes get committed because it's easier to get away with. The justice system in your country just doesn't have the resources to deal with everything that goes on. Notice you listed petty crimes there, those things and minor thefts dont get investigated by the police.

@Emerald I have observed with orange that there is definately this huge need to be seen in a specific way, and that tends to create a contrived personality that is trying to be masculine but underneath there is this neediness and stiffness being sub communicated . I think this portrays a false idea of masculinity, like you say, a kind of stoicism which creates a culture of men who all dress the same, have the same haircuts, similar sense of humour, similar views on culture. I guess you could say it's a kind of cheesiness coming through with this obsession on ones ego and fixation on becoming something. I noticed this with Owen Cook lately on his latest RSD free releases. He's talking about some very high level PD stuff, but sadly still interpreting it through orange need for egoic self mastery. It's llike he's using spritiualtiy in service of the ego and not really getting it despite many years studying self development and "applying" himself. I don't think hes really getting anywhere except going round in circles trying to master orange. What's your take?

So I think you mean compete in the sense of competing in society for status, wealth, approval, approval from women, power over ones destiny, approval from society to conform to expectations of go go go, unlimited growth, unlimited economic growth. Competing with other men to attract the "hottest" women as a commodity and an object that is there to satisfy sexual needs, social needs, needs to be seen in a certain way by others. In this structure there is no room for being an individual who is different, there is no room for appearing "weak" (because orange would view a man is informed by his emotions as inferior, beta, wishy washy, a cuck, etc. Gender roles are still fixed , men cannot express feminine traits, energies, passions. By this you mean that there is an expectation to live upto these standards and if you don't then there is obviously (according to orange) something inherently wrong with you as a person. Which creates a vicious circle inside the orange structure as actually leaving orange would actually guarantee that orange would find actual self worth and the relationship success orange desperately seeks ironically because it is only stuck in orange, identified with the orange structure. Orange doesn't see that authentic connection with people and the abandoning of objectification with people requires a shift to green and beyond. Ok, so honesty and embracing the emotions is better in the long term than simply denying them and "Manning up" which is a form of dissociating (but not in the clinical sense) but just a converting up of the emotions and fear of acting on them because of the expectations that an orange centred society has So allowing being with and respecting your emotions as a man and letting go of the pathological fixation to orange and orange culture, we will see a more integrated emotional system, and that will manifest itself in more wisdom, more control and less emotion spilling out inappropriately as frustration, desperation, fixation to ego, fixation to other people's ideas, and more ability to be present and notice what's going on around you in the social sphere. Social acuity, as you call it.

This is very useful, thank you. In your experience what tools or resources would you recommend to us readers of Clifford The Big Red Dog use to allow us to get a grip of our feminine side so that we can naturally be more in tune with women and other people so that this inevitably leads to those needs arc is talking about getting met in a holistic, less fragmented way? I would have guessed identification with orange rationality is the biggest obstacle here, and maybe getting a dummies grip on Jung's archetypes would help in some way? I'd love to hear your thoughts (and feelings of course) ?

@ivankiss Mate, just do what you enjoy doing. Financial freedom is ok, but there is no point doing self actualisation work if you're ignoring your life purpose. You can't be living a double life like that, everything must be aligned, no inner conflicts