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what are you talking about?

This thread won't be proper until you use some Leo quotes, full sentence quotes with citation as to where the quote is from

No You are Bad if you rape dogs.

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Question to Osho: Do you consider yourself a God? Osho: "There is no God. God is the greatest lie invented by man" From early 1988, Rajneesh's discourses focused exclusively on Zen. In late December, he said he no longer wished to be referred to as "Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh", and in February 1989 took the name "Osho Rajneesh", shortened to "Osho" in September. He also requested that all trademarks previously branded with "Rajneesh" be rebranded "OSHO". His health continued to weaken. He delivered his last public discourse in April 1989, from then on simply sitting in silence with his followers. _______________ While the various legal battles ensued Rajneesh remained behind the scenes, having withdrawn from a public facing role in what commune leadership referred to as a period of "silence." During this time, which lasted until November 1984, in lieu of Rajneesh speaking publicly, videos of his discourses were played to commune audiences. His time was allegedly spent mostly in seclusion and he communicated only with a few key disciples, including Ma Anand Sheela and his caretaker girlfriend Ma Yoga Vivek (Christine Woolf).He lived in a trailer next to a covered swimming pool and other amenities. At this time he did not lecture and interacted with followers via a Rolls Royce 'drive-by' ceremony. He also gained public notoriety for amassing a large collection of Rolls-Royce cars, eventually numbering 93 vehicles. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Setting aside all the scandals alleged to Osho's organization for this discussion my question is about two things 1) Can we say Osho or any other spiritual teacher is not enlightened because like what Osho said in the video at top when he was asked if he considered himself to be a God his reply was "there is no God, God is the greatest lie invented by man" ( an atheist statement) ? 2) Can Osho or any spiritual teacher be enlightened if they show off 93 Rolls Royces or similar extravagance which seems to represent extreme materialism?

what is the video title where Leo spoke about the Uighurs in China and where is it?

Excerpts from “Theory Z” (from Abraham Maslow's : The Farther Reaches of Human Nature) 1. For transcenders, peak experiences and plateau experiences become the most important things in their lives…. 2. They speak more easily, normally, naturally, and unconsciously the language of Being (B-language), the language of poets, of mystics, of seers, of profoundly religious men… 3. They perceive unitively or sacrally (i.e., the sacred within the secular), or they see the sacredness in all things at the same time that they also see them at the practical, everyday D-level … 4. They are much more consciously and deliberately metamotivated. That is, the values of Being…, e.g., perfection, truth, beauty, goodness, unity, dichotomy-transcendence … are their main or most important motivations. 5. They seem somehow to recognize each other, and to come to almost instant intimacy and mutual understanding even upon first meeting… 6. They are more responsive to beauty. This may turn out to be rather a tendency to beautify all things… or to have aesthetic responses more easily than other people do… 7. They are more holistic about the world than are the “healthy” or practical self-actualizers… and such concepts as the “national interest” or “the religion of my fathers” or “different grades of people or of IQ” either cease to exist or are easily transcended… 8. [There is] a strengthening of the self-actualizer’s natural tendency to synergy—intrapsychic, interpersonal, intraculturally and internationally…. It is a transcendence of competitiveness, of zero-sum of win-lose gamesmanship. 9. Of course there is more and easier transcendence of the ego, the Self, the identity. 10. Not only are such people lovable as are all of the most self-actualizing people, but they are also more awe-inspiring, more “unearthly,” more godlike, more “saintly”…, more easily revered… 11. … The transcenders are far more apt to be innovators, discoverers of the new, than are the healthy self-actualizers… Transcendent experiences and illuminations bring clearer vision … of the ideal …of what ought to be, what actually could be, … and therefore of what might be brought to pass. 12. I have a vague impression that the transcenders are less “happy” than the healthy ones. They can be more ecstatic, more rapturous, and experience greater heights of “happiness” (a too weak word) than the happy and healthy ones. But I sometimes get the impression that they are as prone and maybe more prone to a kind of cosmic sadness … over the stupidity of people, their self-defeat, their blindness, their cruelty to each other, their shortsightedness… Perhaps this is a price these people have to pay for their direct seeing of the beauty of the world, of the saintly possibilities in human nature, of the non-necessity of so much of human evil, of the seemingly obvious necessities for a good world… 13. The deep conflicts over the “elitism” that is inherent in any doctrine of self-actualization—they are after all superior people whenever comparisons are made—is more easily solved—or at least managed—by the transcenders than by the merely healthy self-actualizers. This is made possible because they … can sacralize everybody so much more easily. This sacredness of every person and even of every living thing, even of nonliving things … is so easily and directly perceived in its reality by every transcender … 14. My strong impression is that transcenders show more strongly a positive correlation—rather than the more usual inverse one—between increasing knowledge and increasing mystery and awe… For peak-experiencers and transcenders in particular, as well as for self-actualizers in general, mystery is attractive and challenging rather than frightening … I affirm … that at the highest levels of development of humanness, knowledge is positively, rather than negatively, correlated with a sense of mystery, awe, humility, ultimate ignorance, reverence … 15. Transcenders, I think, should be less afraid of “nuts” and “kooks” than are other self-actualizers, and thus are more likely to be good selectors of creators … To value a William Blake type takes, in principle, a greater experience with transcendence and therefore a greater valuation of it… 16. …Transcenders should be more “reconciled with evil” in the sense of understanding its occasional inevitability and necessity in the larger holistic sense, i.e., “from above,” in a godlike or Olympian sense. Since this implies a better understanding of it, it should generate both a greater compassion with it and a less ambivalent and a more unyielding fight against it…. 17. … Transcenders … are more apt to regard themselves as carriers of talent, instruments of the transpersonal, temporary custodians so to speak of a greater intelligence or skill or leadership or efficiency. This means a certain peculiar kind of objectivity or detachment toward themselves that to nontranscenders might sound like arrogance, grandiosity or even paranoia…. Transcendence brings with it the “transpersonal” loss of ego. 18. Transcenders are in principle (I have no data) more apt to be profoundly “religious” or “spiritual” in either the theistic or nontheistic sense. Peak experiences and other transcendent experiences are in effect also to be seen as “religious or spiritual” experiences…. 19. … Transcenders, I suspect, find it easier to transcend the ego, the self, the identity, to go beyond self-actualization. … Perhaps we could say that the description of the healthy ones is more exhausted by describing them primarily as strong identities, people who know who they are, where they are going, what they want, what they are good for, in a word, as strong Selves… And this of course does not sufficiently describe the transcenders. They are certainly this; but they are also more than this. 20. I would suppose… that transcenders, because of their easier perception of the B-realm, would have more end experiences (of suchness) than their more practical brothers do, more of the fascinations that we see in children who get hypnotized by the colors in a puddle, or by the raindrops dripping down a windowpane, or by the smoothness of skin, or the movements of a caterpillar. 21. In theory, transcenders should be somewhat more Taoistic, and the merely healthy somewhat more pragmatic. 22. …Total wholehearted and unconflicted love, acceptance … rather than the more usual mixture of love and hate that passes for “love” or friendship or sexuality or authority or power, etc. 23. [Transcenders are interested in a “cause beyond their own skin,” and are better able to “fuse work and play,” “they love their work,” and are more interested in “kinds of pay other than money pay”; “higher forms of pay and metapay steadily increase in importance.”] Mystics and transcenders have throughout history seemed spontaneously to prefer simplicity and to avoid luxury, privilege, honors, and possessions. … 24. I cannot resist expressing what is only a vague hunch; namely, the possibility that my transcenders seem to me somewhat more apt to be Sheldonian ectomorphs [lean, nerve-tissue dominated body-types] while my less-often-transcending self-actualizers seem more often to be mesomorphic [muscular body-types] (… it is in principle easily testable).

In some forms of meditation 1. eyes are closed In Zen the head is tilted slightly downward and 2. eyes are opened slightly and sometimes one faces a wall Then in other forms gazing is done on a single point of flame with 3. eyes wide open, gazing Please compare and contrast these methods in your own personal experience. Do you feel these have different outcomes or lead to a similar result?

why did you say "here" ?

why yes but reducing harm to self is not an illusion

(from thread about Osho)

why?

Somebody recently said you have stopped doing Kriya/Kundalini techniques on a regular basis. Is this true?

This is called Metta mediation and I made a recent thread on it. After reading the text might want to look at the videos, this monk's particular take on it

Stop the bullshit, you are one of the most unhappy people in this forum . So you are too busy with your rigorous meditation practice and relentless pursuit of the truth you don't have time to be happy? I suspect not Being happy can be very difficult for some people and you (and I) and are probably examples of them. People can be neurotic and unhappy for years and be in psychotherapy at the same time. The Law of Attraction is part cognitive therapy and part magical thinking nonsense. Negative thinking can be inherited, even epigenetic. Or or can be environmental. Whatever the source the negativity can bury deeply in the subconscious mind and became structural in the brain, taint our thoughts and will require dedicated practice to undo. If it was so easy you would have taken care of it and then continued in your pursuit of "the truth" For many it is not easy. It takes practice and work and that is itself one of the truths. In fact you can't even get to the other truths and neglect this one Yes you were on to something here but have you made any such effort since you made this remark earlier on Friday? I made a new thread recently called >> This is Buddhist method and also practiced by Ram Dass but it actually goes back to earlier Vedic roots. You might want to look at the videos I posted there. This whole concept may sound wishy washy to you " Loving Kindness Meditation" but you may find an aspect of this helpful to you,fundamentally so. It involves meditating on good will statements to particular people, even heinous ones and also to the the world but it is done in stages and it begins with such statements made to yourself. The monk who speaks there has h is own take on it talks about not forcing, not being overly serious about it and having fun doing it. For certain people, this loosens something that has become hard and inflexible and not practicing happiness and giving permission to ourselves to be happy is precisely why insight and truth have no place to flow in. This can't be achieved intellectually or by just watching a videos. No it has to be a routine practice like breathing and it must be engaged with people in the world. Maybe this particular method is not for you but when you said you wanted to find a teach teacher that just wants you to enjoy life, you are are on the right track. This might not be the right track for other people but for you (and I) it is.

Q&A: Why Don't We Hear About Enlightened Beings Today? (3 minute video) ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Is Enlightenment Within Us All? _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Enlightenment

yes, morality is based on establishing rules people perceive to be either a threat to their collective survival or an aid to it. But the will to survive is not a fantasy agenda it is an innate intinct

Solipsism

I wonder if he could write a science fiction book

Two or more people might agree that certain things aid their survival and others don't Hence forum guidelines or behaviors regarded by laws that ascribe right and wrong behavior

1, Self Improvement teacher 2. Spiritual Teacher 3. Philosopher-writer-speaker 4. Politician 5. Spiritual Seeker Traveler Video blogger 6. Psychonaut 7. Psychedelic Philosopher @LfcCharlie4 Leo might be trying to be too many things at once. This is not to say he can't do all of the above but which role do you think suits him best to be his main thing, to put the most emphasis on? Leo does seem to have a love of intellectual discourses. This could be an interesting book on the topic of "Objections To Spirituality". He seems reclusive, like a writer would be. Somebody like Spira is doing a lot of public appearances in different places and meeting a lot of people He could also go on the road in the way a writer would or a video travel blogger, but it would be to perhaps spiritual destinations Or he could just continue make his usual videos which he is good at. Some suggest he should run for political office. I don't know how well he does in groups of people though. That is not for everybody. He could take several of his videos and just have them transcribed into books also.

just made a thread on this

Metta Meditation: Loving Kindness Meditation Pāli language, classical and liturgical language of the Theravāda Buddhist canon, a Middle Indo-Aryan language of north Indian origin. Mettā is a Pali word, which means "friendly, amicable, benevolent, affectionate, kind, good-will",as well as a form of "love, amity, sympathy". The term is found in this sense in the Vedic literature, such as the Shatapatha Brahmana and various early Upanishads, and Vedanga literature such as Pāṇini's Aṣṭādhyāyī 5.4.36. The term appears in Buddhist texts as an important concept and practice. Buswell and Lopez, as well as Harvey, translate metta as "loving-kindness". In Buddhist belief, this is a Brahma-vihara (divine abode) or an immeasurable that leads to a meditative state by being a counter to ill-will. It removes clinging to negative state of mind, by cultivating kindness unto all beings. Mettā meditation, or often loving-kindness meditation, is the practice concerned with the cultivation of Mettā, i.e. benevolence, kindness, and amity. The practice generally consists of silent repetitions of phrases such as "may you be happy" or "may you be free from suffering", for example directed at a person who, depending on tradition, may or may not be internally visualized Two different methodological approaches have been discerned in recent review papers, practices that focus on compassion and practices focussing on loving-kindness. Focussing on compassion means that meditation consists of the wish to relieve a being from suffering, whereas focussing on loving-kindness means wishing a being happiness. The practice gradually increases in difficulty with respect to the targets that receive the practitioner’s compassion or loving-kindness. At first the practitioner is targeting "oneself, then loved ones, neutral ones, difficult ones and finally all beings, with variations across traditions". Difficult may include rude, annoying, busy bodied, arrogant, self-righteous, vice-respect, neglectful, war-profiteers, fence sitters, nay-saying, charlatans, unkind, accusers, rebukes, provocation, liars, sacrilegious and unhappy. Brief Instructions for Loving-Kindness Meditation To practice loving-kindness meditation, sit in a comfortable and relaxed manner. Take two or three deep breaths with slow, long and complete exhalations. Let go of any concerns or preoccupations. For a few minutes, feel or imagine the breath moving through the center of your chest - in the area of your heart. Metta is first practiced toward oneself, since we often have difficulty loving others without first loving ourselves. Sitting quietly, mentally repeat, slowly and steadily, the following or similar phrases: May I be happy. May I be well. May I be safe. May I be peaceful and at ease. While you say these phrases, allow yourself to sink into the intentions they express. Loving-kindness meditation consists primarily of connecting to the intention of wishing ourselves or others happiness. However, if feelings of warmth, friendliness, or love arise in the body or mind, connect to them, allowing them to grow as you repeat the phrases. As an aid to the meditation, you might hold an image of yourself in your mind's eye. This helps reinforce the intentions expressed in the phrases. After a period of directing loving-kindness toward yourself, bring to mind a friend or someone in your life who has deeply cared for you. Then slowly repeat phrases of loving-kindness toward them: May you be happy. May you be well. May you be safe. May you be peaceful and at ease. As you say these phrases, again sink into their intention or heartfelt meaning. And, if any feelings of loving-kindness arise, connect the feelings with the phrases so that the feelings may become stronger as you repeat the words. As you continue the meditation, you can bring to mind other friends, neighbors, acquaintances, strangers, animals, and finally people with whom you have difficulty. You can either use the same phrases, repeating them again and again, or make up phrases that better represent the loving-kindness you feel toward these beings. In addition to simple and perhaps personal and creative forms of metta practice, there is a classic and systematic approach to metta as an intensive meditation practice. Because the classic meditation is fairly elaborate, it is usually undertaken during periods of intensive metta practice on retreat. Sometimes during loving-kindness meditation, seemingly opposite feelings such as anger, grief, or sadness may arise. Take these to be signs that your heart is softening, revealing what is held there. You can either shift to mindfulness practice or you can—with whatever patience, acceptance, and kindness you can muster for such feelings—direct loving-kindness toward them. Above all, remember that there is no need to judge yourself for having these feelings.