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Please stay on topic , Dennis McKenna he may be enlightened or may not be but whatever the case may be he has been doing psychedelic for 40 years while his brother quit in his last decade, if not slowed down quite a bit

Can somebody be enlightened but claim they're not ?

Neck restraints have been recently prohibited for Minneapolis police and in may other police departments _______________________________________________________________________ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minneapolis-police-rendered-44-people-unconscious-neck-restraints-five-years-n1220416 NBC News june 1, 2020 (excerpt) Minneapolis police rendered 44 people unconscious with neck restraints in five years Several police experts said that number appears to be unusually high. "By using this tactic, it's a self-fulfilling tragedy," said one. Since the beginning of 2015, officers from the Minneapolis Police Department have rendered people unconscious with neck restraints 44 times, according to an NBC News analysis of police records. Several police experts said that number appears to be unusually high. Minneapolis police used neck restraints at least 237 times during that span, and in 16 percent of the incidents the suspects and other individuals lost consciousness, the department's use-of-force records show. A lack of publicly available use-of-force data from other departments makes it difficult to compare Minneapolis to other cities of the same or any size. Police define neck restraints as when an officer uses an arm or leg to compress someone's neck without directly pressuring the airway. On May 25, Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin was captured on video kneeling on the neck of a prone and handcuffed George Floyd for eight minutes — including nearly three minutes after he had stopped breathing. More than a dozen police officials and law enforcement experts told NBC News that the particular tactic Chauvin used — kneeling on a suspect's neck — is neither taught nor sanctioned by any police agency. A Minneapolis city official told NBC News Chauvin's tactic is not permitted by the Minneapolis police department. For most major police departments, variations of neck restraints, known as chokeholds, are highly restricted — if not banned outright. The version of the Minneapolis Police Department's policy manual that is available on-line, however, does permit the use of neck restraints that can render suspects unconscious, and the protocol for their use has not been updated for more than eight years. Minneapolis police data shows that in the bulk of use-of-force cases involving neck restraints when an individual lost consciousness, the restraint was used after a suspect fled on foot or tensed up as they were being taken into custody. Almost half of the people who lost consciousness were injured, according to the reports, which do not spell out the severity of those injuries. Five of the cases involved assaults on officers, while several others involved domestic abuse or domestic assault cases. In most cases, there was no apparent underlying violent offense. The Minnesota police data showed three-fifths of those subjected to neck restraints and then rendered unconscious were black. About 30 percent were white. Two were Native Americans. Almost all are male, and three-quarters were age 40 or under. The on-line version of the policy manual says, "The unconscious neck restraint shall only be applied … 1. On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or; 2. For life saving purposes, or; 3. On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective." Ed Obayashi, an attorney and the deputy sheriff in Plumas County, California, is a national use-of-force expert who trains and advises California police agencies. He said police departments across the country have been moving away from the neck restraint option for many years because of its "inherent life-threatening potential" and because officers often misinterpret resistance by a suspect, who may simply be struggling to breathe. Richard Drooyan served as counsel to the Christopher Commission, which investigated the LAPD beating of Rodney King, and later on the independent panel that examined the Rampart Division corruption scandal. Drooyan, who now oversees the L.A. County jail, said neck restraint should only be employed when there is an urgent matter of life or death, and that the number of times it was used by the Minneapolis Police Department seemed "extraordinary."

In place of the candle try using a mirror in a dimly lit room with medium low lamp light on your face 45 minutes

So if MDMA is the empathy type of love what type of love is induced by psychedelics? Also some people don't report feelings of love on 5 Meo but others do

that's very nice but what if you run out of paper towels?

Ralston spent thousands of hours in Zen mediation

Dennis McKenna: Speculation on enlightened states channel: DMT: The Spirit Molecule Terence McKenna - On Enlightenment the Ethnobotany of Shamanism Non 1988 Dennis McKenna: Our misguided experiment in externalizing a psychdedelic trip, 2011

Desire is exactly what enlightenment extinguishes

artificial in the sense that someone takes a chemical, measures it and than puts it into their bloodstream rather than an ability that they have - not talking about absolute definitions of the word and the fact that of any statement it's words can be dismantled

This is very simple. He comes out of Zen. Somebody might argue that psychedelic states are much more powerful than Zen meditation That may or may not be true but from the Zen perceptive psychedelic states are makyō - delusions and relates to the concept of asava elsewhere in Buddhism In Zen they also do not talk about love. In Zen they value compassion and kindness and regard love as a form of attachment which leads to suffering. They may or may not be wrong about that But the argument is not just with Ralston. It's with Buddhism as a whole. Drinking alcohol or taking any kind of mind altering chemical violates Noble Eightfold Path, although some Zen monks discretely bend rules

Assuming neurotransmitters are involved seems like a scientific explanation rather than mystical

All humans except perhaps psychopaths are conscious of what Love is. But you have your own definition of the word which is to accept everything with no discernment but I suspect you don't actually live like that, smiling happily as someone kicks a cat

Psychedelics are amazing but they are also artificial

You should try Zen meditation but with eyes open a crack. Face a wall a few feet away, the head is tilted slightly downward. The eyes are open halfway, you are not focusing on anything visually. The room is lighted but not highly. You might not like this at first. That is good. That brings out things. Try it for 5 days and see.

a chemical is measured and introduced into the blood stream artificially this then changes the mental state. this isn't describing the mental state just the cause of it. some might say It's similar to a dream state

So you have been doing 1 hour a day for how long? You are describing Shikantaza meditation there is also Samatha and Vipassana, all of these three, are Buddhist methods

In contrast to , in Budhism > Anatman

what are the details, what position is your body in, how long, how regularly?

I've done it. That does not change the fact it is a chemical

what meditation method/s do you use?

Psychedelics are a materialistic method of altering mental states by using chemical compounds. but some liken this state , similar to a shamanic trance state to "enlightenment" a concept associated with monastic traditions. I would like to know who is the first known familiar person who suggested that psychedelics states were the same thing as mediation derived enlightenment as described in Eastern traditions

Terrence McKenna died of brain cancer in 2000 and stopped or dramatically reduced taking psychedelics in 1988 according to his sister or early 90s according to his brother name some prominent spiritual teachers other than Leo and Ball who you own books of, who advocate taking psychedelics as a primary tool for enlightenment.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mysterious-seeds-sent-china-us-151105272.html Mysterious seeds sent from China to the US identified by the USDA Graig Graziosi August 3, 2020, 11:11 AM The mysterious seed packs from China that hundreds of Americans received in the mail have been identified, according to the US Department of Agriculture. Federal officials warned those who received the seeds not to plant them over fears that some may be invasive species and could destroy native plants and insects. Osama El-Lissy, a member of the USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, said officials had identified more than a dozen plant species included in the seed packets. "We have identified 14 different species of seeds, including mustard, cabbage, morning glory and some herbs, like mint, sage, rosemary, lavender, and then other seeds like hibiscus and roses," he said. Authorities believe the seed packets may be part of an online money-making scam that likely originated in China. "At this time, we don't have any evidence indicating this is something other than a 'brushing scam' where people receive unsolicited items from a seller who then posts false customer reviews to boost sales," a USDA Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service said. The USDA is working alongside the US Department of Homeland Security to investigate the packages. "USDA is currently collecting seed packaged from recipients and will test their contents to determine if they contain anything that could be of concern to US agriculture or the environment," the statement said. Packages have been mailed to addresses in all 50 states as well as to addresses across Canada. Many of the packages had shipping information printed in Chinese characters on the bags, some of which were misprinted and described objects like bracelets or rings. Most of the packets appear — according to the address labels — to have come from the Chinese cities of Suzhou. A spokesperson for the Chinese foreign ministry said last week that the Chinese mail service was working with the US Postal Service to have some of the packages shipped back to China for analysis. The spokesperson claimed that the address labels on the package were forged. Despite many of the seeds being identified, the USDA is still asking anyone who receives the seeds not to plant them. They recommend storing the seeds away from dogs and children and reporting them to the agency.