Johnny5

Continuing where we left off. Thanks @Into The Void for speaking plain facts. ?

lol...

Yeh... people in this forum...

ok man.

This thread gon be great...

@arlin Yeah I know ? ?

Go for it (no joke). Make it a good one. ?

People keep going thinking they know all kinds of shit.

+1

In other words, you is only an experience, nothing more. It has no independent agency whatsoever. (and so there is nobody who can "hold on to" or "let go of" it...................................)

No, epic fail...

Yeah I get it.... ?

@Darodos The mechanism of "delusion" is active in anything. The radical nature of psychedelic experiences happens to be extremely fertile ground where almost anything is prone to being hijacked by that mechanism and take on a life of its own. There's not much you can do until you figure out what's true and what's not, and the only tool at your disposal for that, psychedelics or no psychedelics, is brutally honest scrutiny. Psychedelics don't give you that. Their proper place is as with everything else, subordinate to honest scrutiny. Everything else comes after.

@confused You tell me...? (I'm not joking.... take an honest look at it and see what they're really up to, you could learn a lot about human nature.)

The huge ass reason is that identity doesn't feel good...

Who says that's what they are doing...

What I mean is, maybe your true nature has nothing to do with any rocks We start off from the reality as it seems to exist, but that is exactly what needs to be questioned. So before you start wondering about rocks, maybe first start wondering about reality? How do you even know that rocks are real? Someone puts it like this: Don't answer your questions, but question your answers...

I've had that many times without any chemicals. Your presence can disrupt other people's minds. Again, it's at the level of energy. If mind is the smoke, energy is the fire, and presence is the love.

@zeroISinfinity

What rock...? ?‍♂️

@zeroISinfinity My god, man......

Yes! Inevitably. Also your own body language. There seems to be a shared energy and it affects people whether or not you/they are aware of it. Even on the forum. In the same way your loving the present moment can "heal" not only your own "trauma" but someone else's too. And for the same reason, it can be unsettling for some people, because it is simultaneously threatening to the energy of ego.