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I intuitively know what a woman is. I feel like you don't need to be a genius to know what it is, and Greek Skepticism comes into play with common sense. But, I admit as we explore it very deeply through philosophy and ontology It's hard to define what a woman is. But, I know a women when my see one by using my penis (natural intuition). I know a woman through being a man. But, I also know that everyone is undefinable and a mystery. Yet, it's knowable at the same time. I know my mother is a woman, or my girlfriend is. I know a human vs a dog. I can know what something is, but not know what it is.

@Leo Gura I then went and watched about half of the Jubilee event. It clearly shows the limitations of everyone’s understanding of rationality, debates, and models, maps, etc for speaking about God. No one (even Peterson) has the proper epistemic foundation to discuss God, science, etc. One of the core issues was no one made a distinction between absolute and relative truth, the limits of symbols, or even a solid definition of what God…. Or any of the terms used for that matter. The entire conversation gets essentially nowhere. Peterson is right about God. But, he also is wrong about a lot of things, right about a lot of things and he doesn’t stick to strict use of language or words. He does have a grasp of language and the content of which he speaks. But, is not given the chance to fully explore. Even then, he lacks the direct consciousness and knowing. Though, his intuition is very good. He makes good distinctions but his mind blows like the wind and it’s impossible for him to hold a place at times which makes it hard for the two people to explore the conversation from a well rooted foundation. He made a very good point about how science can't be used to explain morality because human morality existed pre-science. Which is very subtle, but he got blown away like the wind before he could explain it and clearly layout the distinction that science is is a cognitive framework and philophical system used to explain what is there, but it not reality itself. As animals develop morality without science something else is developing the morality, ie evolution and universal Will, which I think Peterson is defining as God. This being said, I myself am developing my own understanding of these matters. I am given through your work and my own contemplations, trips, etc a good foundation to work on. I struggle to understand my recent trip. Because my sense making mind tells stories and it’s hard to know which is true or false. The altered state and direct consciousness and my recollection of previous trips makes me being, my reading sacred texts, your work, my own conclusions since I was a kid makes me being God a very obvious truth. But, I know there is deeper truth to be grasped and understood here. It terrifies me to know the truth as the altered state is profound and kills me. But, I should be responsible to get to the truth, and to practice pure philosophy. The Rationality Rules guy is simply wrong, and extremely sloppy in his use of rationality and his application of logical fallacies toward Jordan Peterson and likely in general. He is focused on debating, proving wrong, fighting against, pointing out technical flaws based on arbitrary logical systems which he applies without solid foundation that that is the truest way of applying that piece of logic’s Though, I do think Jordan has logical fallacies too. I can’t fully articulate it all. The reality is extremely complex and full of wrongness coming from everyone involved. No one is really that close to the truth as all have the wrong epistemic foundations. The format is fundamentally flawed for truth seeking but does act as good material for understanding the limits of conversations, differing views, arguments, limits of rationality, poor rational arguments, the issues of lacking truth as a direct experience, poor understanding of God, science and religion that exists among all participants and society at large.

This rationality rules guy can’t see the limits of his rationality. It’s amazing to listen to. Bias plays a huge role into how he himself rationalizes but he ignores that. He actively postures and creates rules which, aren’t inherent to conversation, words, etc. He conveniently ignores things Peterson says and it’s very interesting to contemplate. A Socratic conversation is far more powerful than a debate.

@Leo Gura Yes, I will. I’m not satisfied with my understanding. It can’t be understood rationally. God? Is God the right word?

@Leo Gura Alright, alright haha Let me take another look and I’ll get back to you.

@Leo Gura Yeahh… an infinite singularity that IS exitence. Total subject object collapse. Like… eternity and infinity and consciousness? Perfection and love? Those make sense. Man, it went on forever…. And yet I’m here now writing this how is that possible? I thought it was gonna go on forever. But, here I am… I just don’t get it. I don’t mean to come off as an idiot here. But, I really don’t know what is going on…. There are things that make sense and I know more than someone just completely confused. But, I have questions.

@Leo Gura Yeah, this trip was profound. I just need to step into my own conclusions and to make sure I’m not parroting at all. Or, filtering it through someone else’s lens. It felt so total…. So complete and perfect. It… yeah, it was infinity. As I’m come down and I’m reflecting. I’ll continue to contemplate and trip. It seemed like…. Everything. I don’t have the words for it. Is that what God is? For me questions, contemplating and trips are more appropriate than bold claims or labels. They can come when it’s mature. I want to really inquire into what is true about this state. What the hell is that experience? It feels like infinity,… it’s far bigger than me, than my human ego…. But it’s also so personal. I realized my consciousness is truth. But, I’m doubting my own ability to understand this right now. I think that is okay and when I’m mature and experienced I’ll know. I was convinced I was an infinite singularity at the time of the trip. That my true nature is beyond beyond. That it was love and absolute. I realized there was nothing I could do to not be that. That was what I was. But, I want to be really sure.

I’m still not able to understand the actual 5meodmt trip and my thoughts and feelings about it. It’s so unitary…. I guess that is non-duality. But, I can tell my rational mind and ego don’t understand it. I want to experience it with less and less resistance, less and less story telling (like, in reality it’s just infinity and I never existed) because you come down from the state. There is a lot here to explore and try to understand. I want to let go of any ideas and fantasies I have and also let go of any teachings surround the substance so I can trip with full consciousness openness. My recent trip, again has me feeling like time doesn’t exist and it’s just the infinity. It does feel like I’m in that state for a long time. But, I think I need more meditation and longer trips. I do not understand the implications of 5meodmt. I don’t understand what the trip is saying to me. It seems to be what is described as non-duality, oneness and an absolute state of consciousness. It seems like time should not exist in that state, but it does. It feels like the trip is happening for eternity but, it’s not. There is potential more and more for completely selflessness, self love, surrender and total destruction of myself as an ego. But, not destruction of myself as a perspective or set of memories at the same time. If I hadn’t have learned about infinity would I say I experience infinity? I don’t know. Would I call it God? No. It’s hard to say. It feels very final, very total. It feels like I grasp something very deep. But, I’m not sure what it is. It definitely felt like a solipsistic, absolute unitary experience in which I realized I was this thing which was the source of existence and non-existence. But, again, I is an interpretation I am sure is fake. Because, in the sober state it’s like… that makes no sense.

@SimpleGuy Mindfulness isn’t about stopping thoughts. It’s essentially meta-cognition or meta awareness. Mindfulness really should help creativity.

Is that Gay or Non-dual? Contemplate that.

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@Leo Gura

@Jannes A lot of girls I am have been with don’t care about dick size. It doesn’t really matter. A lot of what makes great sex is your energetic framing, touch, fingering, etc. You don’t need a massive Hog. I mean, a nice dick is a plus. But, from what they tell me they don’t mind smaller dick guys. Average is good. I am not admitting my dick size here btw that’s only for de ladies to find out.

I do suspect she lies a lot to make her seems special. Like she is a reincarnation of a great yogi is one of them.

@SimpleGuy I think, as someone who goes through and deals with victim mindset from time to time…. I think gratitude, recalling past wins and successes, and taking action toward your goals even if it seems like it’s failing, or whatever. Always take a step forward anyway. Really, it’s hard to say because it’s different for everyone. Sometimes you just are in a shitty state. It will pass.

Sounds great tbh

I’m not a fan, But, I remember watching some video of a guy judging her “2020 predictions that 2020” would be a really bad year for the world…. He was like “yeah right”…. Then, she was right, sorta. She’s an interesting person.

The Buddha as popular as he is today would make billions? He’s selling Buddha statues, tattoos, books about Buddhism, and Buddha bowls. Mans it raking in the cash.

@UnbornTao Yeah I thought he layered returned but then recalled he did, but not to his roles. However, it remains that he did have teachings for house holders. He didn’t have an illusion of a whole world of monks.

@UnbornTao Well, he was a prince. I was wrong about a couple things. He lived in poverty by choice for 45 years after

@Eskilon It was the value he contributed to others. He ultimately did not teach poverty. How he positioned himself was key to his work. He was also an extraordinary individual. He focused on his work and his teachings. His wealth came from being a prince. But, as a prince he could not pursue his work. At his time he could not build wealth while also pursuing truth and awakening. We live in an age where you can develop wealth, and you can then go about your spiritual pursuits. This possibility is there for modern humans. How Leo positioned himself is key to his work. Leo is wealthy I think, and he does not pursue wealth but consciousness and understanding. The trick is not letting it corrupt you. This is my opinion. I respect different approaches. There is no one path, so do as you see fittest. A key difference is the teachings he gave to his monks- Acetic poverty and house holders - healthy relationship to wealth. A monk is like a little Buddha clone. They are designed and programmed to access his awakening and to preserve his teaching. Again, there was no written language back then and therefore a monk is like a form of spiritual technology. They also continued to evolve and contribute to the body of work by being full time. But, I think most of us here are considered householders. We can build wealth and manage it well is taught by Buddha. Being wealthy is spiritual. Poverty, is not required.

@Eskilon That is not why he is known. Study the Heart of the Buddha’s Teaching that Thich-Hat- Nanh. Buddha actually contributed a teaching and system for transcending suffering and living a good life. It’s a powerful system. But, it in truth does not promote poverty as a core tenant. Many people choose to be poor as part of an ascetic spiritual path. Many misunderstand Buddha and choose to be poor. But, it’s not the focus on why Buddha is known.

The Buddha clearly teaches non-violence. But, does not teach non-wealth. He teaches non-attachment. But, not poverty.

@Eskilon There is almost no people in general who are enlightened. You are side stepping my point about Buddha’s view on wealth with a general platitude. Be careful there. Wealth seeking perhaps is an important stage of life to build the foundation of freedom for spiritual pursuits. Most humans will not truthfully pursue enlightenment. Truth is, most poor people are doomed to constant stress, survival and craving and have 0 chance of deep spiritual progress. Wealth is key in modern age to truly become spiritually developed. The trick with Buddhism is how you are using your mind to create suffering. Wealth doesn’t inherently stop one from enlightenment. But, wealth seeking as an attitude can be toxic.