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@Leo Gura Perhaps at the end of the day. But, gym rat…. There’s no way bro. I read those posts and your a smart guy. No one got gym rat from those posts. It feels like a défense of something Again, I don’t have access to your decision making process. I just don’t believe it to be true.

@Leo Gura One of the few things I was like… nah, that’s bullshit from you. And I listened to you go on and on and on. ❤️ Leo Weaselling on the rat posts origin story… (in my opinion).

@Leo Gura I don’t believe you on that. I am sorry . Anyway,

@Inliytened1 You just gotta be you man. Your fine as you are. If your struggling, that’s one thing but I just wanna share that on this forum. This forum. It’s not becoming of someone to mock spiral dynamics, Leo, and the work we are trying to grasp. I really wish you well. Anyway, if you wanna keep acting in this really weird way I’ll observe from the side. It’s just sad to me.

@Inliytened1 You for sure ain’t that man. Perhaps cringe… Nothing about how you act or speak relates to any facet of turquoise and it’s odd you can flashing the label while acting belligérant and crude.

@Inliytened1 I like how you’ve gone from mod to forum troll in like a matter of weeks.

@Leo Gura No, not gym weasel. I never bought your gym rat thing.

And no one is perfect here. Even Leo. He is especially casual and I think we can’t take this few word responses as the totality of his opinion or capacity for reflection and understanding.

@Majed I am not trying to. You’ve been saying things like the bible created the world etc, so I’m pushing back in what I believe you’ve been saying. If you are speaking from a different place I am open to hearing it.

@Natasha Tori Maru Fair, fair. And I respect that boundary. Please give me some grace as I pushed back on some rhetoric of the thread of others, and her response though I have gained more clarity and continue to reflect and deepen my understanding. She is right there is a lot of challenging people here sometimes. They also tend to be loud and opinionated. I am that way at times and in the past. The worst is when people make bad faith arguments, get triggered, attack, smear, distract, avoid, have big ego, etc. But, people really are only as mature, educated and conscious as they are. I know a lot of people here simply can’t do better than they do. They are more undeveloped than they think which is largely due to their low development… catch 22. Most people in general, and here are not mature, wise, loving, awake, developed, mystics, Actualized, Good, etc. People may have these qualities and that is amazing. People are indeed growing, maturing, developing actualizing, reflecting, becoming more loving. But, also some people are going backwards. We had a lot of mods get demodded recently and I think it’s because over time their lack of maturity, stability integrity became clear. It’s normal to go backwards, forwards, to go down rabbit holes of self deception, to be a jerk sometimes, etc. She’s right this forum struggles at times. But, it is a personal development forum. Not just for those who are developed and so here we are.

@Majed No, those are stories man

@Leo Gura I was thinking from reading something someone said recently that maybe weasel is better than Rat for scientists. They are weaselling not ratting, can you feel it?

@Natasha Tori Maru Well thank you! I don’t have perfect conduct here on the forum but I generally try to be good faith.

@Natasha Tori Maru Okay, good. I just felt ignored and then she made the claim about men here… and she’s even leaving from the men here. I am not convinced she even demonized Leo here… There was nuance in that thread. It takes time for people to digest ideas too. We can’t look for instant agreement here. @Talinn Fair, ill change it to queen. Emerald does deserve respect, I agree. We all do. But, a label is one thing. I don’t really care, what matters here to me is not bowing. There was plenty of nuance in that thread. Of course, lots of shit too. This is the internet. I DO wish there was more female voices here.

Hell no. She can leave if she wants. I for one am not gonna bow to her feelings being hurt because she couldn’t be Queen of the thread, or because some male perspectives and beliefs hurt her feelings. I for one made the exact same claim as her. She has the gall to speak down to all the men on the forum as if they don’t know how to speak to women? We are having an intellectual conversation This isn’t dating. I am frankly a bit disgusted. She’s speaking with men. Your gonna get male responses. I am not letting her put herself above me or ANYONE on the forum. She wants to come here and be the boss. Frig that. Leave, or stay. You are free to choose and no one here has to bend a knee to you. No one has to agree with you. And, when people DO agree with you maybe acknowledge that.

@Emerald I did make a similar claim to you. Leo, me and others acknowledged women provided in various was. But, they likely weren’t hunting larger prey a their main gig in most tribes is still something I stand by. In truth, a lot of good perspectives were shared which address your claim and align with it in the thread. You either didn’t read them or ignored them. And, I find it insulting (not really) that you assume all men here are afraid of women being compétent. Anyway, you seem to have been butt hurt about something and have chosen to ignore the posts, or didn’t see the posts which already addressed the exact claims you make which I A MAN, made before you joined the thread. I made the exact claim you made, that tasks were shared in tribes with nuances that address a tendency for men to take on more masculine roles most of the time given nature and research I saw. There is archeological evidence and social evidence that shows tasks are shared, but not equally generally. There was a lot of nuance in that thread, even if individuals lacked it. So, maybe the sexism include you. Maybe you don’t like men in some way, and assume men don’t wanna see you competent and smart. There is things for me to reflect on here. But, I am attracted to women who are smart and competent on a personal level and don’t resonate that that somehow makes you now a woman. Honestly. Maybe the projection includes you. Maybe, your ignoring nuances, and other people’s views which align with yours because they are men. Don’t come here acting better than all of us, smarter than all of use more non-biased than all of us. It’s not true. Men are pretty smart too you know. With that said, I don’t know if I fully understand you. I probably don’t and if I fail to here I’m sorry.

@Apparition of Jack Simple, she believe in poverty with Majed’s new logic he has been sharing

@Majed Okay, don’t go to work and stop believing in it and see what happens. Believe in free infinite abundance instead! You’ll be fine 😁

Well, even if you don’t believe and you go to work you’ll get paid. Capitalism is a matter of fact, rational, materialistic endeavour which does has philosophical roots. Is God really rewarding someone? Or is the the market?

@AerisVahnEphelia compared to True

When you guys awaken your integration will be so painful, realizing what immature, selfish, self deceived devils you are. I don’t say this against people on either side of this. But to you inviduals posting on the forum. The conflict is complex, and it’s clear many of you are not interested in TRUTH, but your own biases. Im not even saying your biases are wrong. But it ain’t truth seeking.

@Heaven Sure, you can To be turquoise because to be turquoise you have to embody red too.

Stage turquoise dont blindly identify with their tribe… Some of you guys have huge egos, clear biases and you can’t see it.

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