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@Princess Arabia It’s not all about you. You can’t tell people fuck you on the forum, you didn’t even get a warning. Stop playing victim. I am again, allowing this conversation to happen because a lot of men need it. I am also learning how these men think. If you come into a thread like this and start causing drama I will ask you stop interacting. This thread is by its very nature a conflict and I don’t need you acting out. I see you as a leader on the forum and expect to see that in you. You don’t need to engage in every thread and when you start swearing at other users you break forum guidelines as well. Instead of playing a victim double down to hold yourself to a higher standard. I want you to also self reflect on healthy engagement with others on the forum.

What you are doing is not self defence it’s bullshit.

I’d same the same to you. By recognizing your own bullshit and hypocrisy you can save yourself a lot of needless fighting and living in a nightmare. Take time to self reflect deeper on this matter. Is that really who you want to be? Do you want to be that small and petty that you get offended by pretty women? Or, would you like to pursue the path of a superior man, who leads and holds himself to higher standards. We all deal with bad thoughts on our path which is why I’m not demonizing you. I get it. But, your bigger than that.

Why sink below your own standards here? He gets offended and acts out… you get offended and act out. It’s all bullshit. I will close the thread if it gets out of hand. Conflict is healthy when we do it without taking things personally. The reason I am making this thread unhidden and open is because I think what bebotalk is dealing with many men are dealing with. He will not see what I see in him overnight. Don’t expect anyone to change and agree with you instantly. @bebotalk Has some unfortunate beliefs right now and the goal is to hear him, and help him reflect. @Princess Arabia Please do not post in this thread anymore.

You are right. What he is doing is not self defence. It’s actually self harm.

@Princess Arabia Having others reflect back to him other perspectives is important.

“When you feel distressed: 1. Try to become fully aware of the negative feeling 2. See that it is in you, not in the exterior conditions 3. Do not take it as part of your True Self” - Vernon Howard The Mystic Path To Cosmic Power

@mr_engineer I don't really think these "rules" exist. Most women I meet are very sweet. Some, are of course more selfish than others. But, thats why you should talk to 1,500 women instead of playing video games all day.

@mr_engineer Yes, not you sorry if it read that way. I don't mean YOU, specifically. I mean, OP, and also us, and also men in general.

@mr_engineer Do you think that generally, people man or woman should be treated with respect? I see what you mean. Perhaps these women think they are above men, perhaps because so many men are in their DMs etc, and simps prop up their egos. Also, there is some toxic female culture that exists. You are right this should also be addressed. How do you know what women really think of themselves? Each girl is different and unique. I have met women, who think they are above me and I know the pain that exists in these situations. I have been angry towards women as well, and I have made similar mistakes. However, I know that the man I am, the man I am becoming doesn't need to attack, demonize or turn them into enemies. Again, when it comes to working with women... being playful, light hearted, being grounded in your centre, coming from a place of abundance, etc... Women are naturally attracted to these things. Do we need to punish these women for having an ego? No. Don't hurt them. If you aren't attracted to them that is fine. But, you are a man. Not a fucking child who throws tantrums. It's not her job to be nice to you, to suck your dick, to bow to you, she's and individual person and probably doesn't know you. People are selfish in general. Part of life is dealing with the selfishness of others in a skillful way.

@Jannes People go through things. He shared it on the forum for a reason. He may not see is potential right now, he may see enemies in what he wants. But, give him some months and years and he can come around. I see the potential in him. Ah, I see you trying to understand him. Thats a good point really.

@Grateful Dead He wants to put himself above psychedelic users by putting them down. His choice, The tools are not for everyone. If a man thinks an apple is an orange, who can change his mind? It's not about being above a crack addict. It's that mushrooms and crack are very different. The sun in the moon are both in the sky, but they are very different. We aren't finding incredible healing research from people using crack. But, there is a very large body of evidence that magic mushrooms, or 5Meodmt have immense healing ability when used maturely. A crack addict is controlled by the substance A mature 5meodmt user, may only use the substance once each year, once every 3 months and they do it with spiritual intention. I think buddhist idealogues who think their lame meditation is the only way are basically smoking that buddha crack for hours a day. And yet, most of them don't have any awakenings and never will. ( I am pro meditation, but a hammer is not a screwdriver)

He called the thread "fighting back" But really, he is fighting himself.

@Jannes I don't understand that. Him hating women and him being a simp? Are they related? They seem like Yin and Yang of unskillful interaction with what we want in live. Do we bow and beg and be a weak man for sex and affection? Or do we attack, hate, reject, yell, demonize and feel anger towards our objects of desire? What, what if there was another way? There is,... It start's with seeking truth, forgiving yourself and others, and building yourself into a man of quality, strength, integrity, balance, value, honesty, playfulness, relaxation, joyfulness, sexually healthy and willing to change.

What does simps have to do with HIS mind? His hate? His thoughts? His pain? His perception? Nothing at all. I love this man because I love myself. I love my brothers and sisters. I see beyond their nightmares, their conflicts, their poor behaviour and I see God in them. Their goodness. I meet myself and others with forgiveness. It’s not the simps, it’s not Hot women. It’s his mind, his thoughts, what he has learned, his inner conflict, his fear, his lack of self image, self worth and self love. Luckily, all of that can be worked on. These interactions likely aren’t as they were. His story telling and perception is distorting what actually happened, and what an appropriate response is. If you need to attack, yell, ridicule, punch, do harm, be aggressive, etc… your way way off the mark and it’s a true sign you are living in a nightmare. You can’t control other men, or other women. But, you can work on seeing the truth that reality is kind. The mind is good. There is sexual abundance.

@Basman 🫶🏼

@Basman Not only is he emotionally reactive, and easily triggered. He says they are his enemies, what do you think about that? What would you say to a man who hates attractive women, and says they are his enemies?

@NoSelfSelf Please self reflect on your behaviour.

Bro, are you okay? Is feeling, and thinking a problem? What is being sensitive to you? My approach to women does not make them bitter. I find your response bazaar. Please self reflect, Dinosaur sarcasm. — With regards to Bebos post I want to be very clear… As mods we are supposed to set an example. If you see your brother openly talking about wanting to hurt women, and women get hurt because you said nothing, and he gets hurt for hurting them…. That to me is sad. Be a leader, and even if you don’t know the right things to say you might as well try. A man who can’t see himself as a protector of women, as someone who loves women has gone deeply in the wrong direction. You’re here on the Actualized forum for a reason because you likely believe in personal development. You are here to grow. We can’t police everything. Can’t help everyone. But, he posted this on the forum. This is an opportunity for him to receive feedback on this toxic and twisted aspect of his mind. What he is lacking is love. If he loved himself, and felt love from others he wouldn’t be hurting women, hating women, demonizing women and turning them into enemies. He would be a masculine, strong and decent man. If you don’t see how love could help a man like this, in this way you deeply misunderstood human psychology. Masculine men, are capable of developing emotional intelligence too. A masculine mature man, can recognize when another man is lacking love in his life. If you guys are having these types of aggressive thoughts towards women, see how that closes and shuts you off from loving and healthy relationships. Go seek help. It’ll be worth it.

@NoSelfSelf He didn’t ask for help. Okay, if you wanna be a jerk go ahead. I am surprised and disappointed in your response and attitude. I expect more form fellow mods. But, hey. Hopefully you can self reflect as well. I want this thread to stay open so we can self reflect on this.

I live on stolen land too But I don’t go around lying and bullshitting

@Nivsch I think if you saw the truth you would puke and cry.

Or you don’t know the full history