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@Tristan12 I fell into the trap of thinking psychedelics would heal me years ago. But, they don't. They can show you glimpses of peace, wellbeing, trust, etc which can act as guideposts. There is not magic pill here. We need to focus on holistic solutions, systems, and slow painful progress over years and decades of work. That being said, you can start seeing results sooner than later. This is going to take the right set of tools. Don't rely on these substances alone. You got this. Take a long term approach.

Just survived a little ego backlash. I move to often to have such a large phsyical book Library. I am switching to a Kobo Sage.

Ive been burned by these things. I’d be careful. Do you have 10k to potentially lose? It can be worth researching other companies, courses, offerings, reaching out to their students, etc. I’m now very wary of these types of courses. Not that the information or coaching is bad, but the marketing to get you in the door. I don’t know you, the program or your industry/ target market. Watch Leo’s video on how to not get scammed and screwed. Have you had any paying clients at all before?

Honestly, I’m dealing with some black pill stuff atm.

@Jowblob Interesting. I find breathwork to be pretty powerful though, so I am not sure yet. There are a lot of techqniues out there.

Do it all

Does it really? Or, are you referring to the entire 8 branches of Yoga. Does yoga make you face hard truths? What about Yoga is making you walk the talk that extremely difficult psychedelic trip doesn't also? Both tools and techniques can be extremely challenging. How, does Yoga make someone "walk their talk?".

I actually bet that is false. Do some yoga, or meditate and feel the effects. Then, go to work or speak to your parents, or whatever. I guarantee your state will change and this idea they are permanent is a fantasy. Really, though... It's a development of a system of spiritual techniques and maturity that creates change.

Well, your brain is full of chemicals. And, many chemicals aren't psychedelic or psychoactive at all. Essentially, from a chemical perspective you are simply altering chemicals in the brain through Kyra Yoga. In terms of accessing higher/ altered states of consciousness Leo has decided that psychedelics are his preferred spiritual tool. Psychedelics have been used for thousands of years as spiritual tools. Just like Yoga, meditation, Qigong, etc... There isn't just one type of tool that is the correct spiritual tool. Notice as well there is clear distinctions in the types of chemical ingested. Different chemicals can be psychedelic, Opiate, dissociative etc. Yet, there are specific psychedelic compounds which offer very reliable and powerful spiritual experiences. Just like not all breathing is the same, not all posture is the same, not all movement is the same, etc not all compounds are the same.

@Javfly33 Meth isn’t a psychedelic 😵‍💫

Wherever you are today. Keep going.

@Natasha Tori Maru I do my best, fail as I do.

@Natasha Tori Maru Interesting perspective. We are one, that is for sure. A direct insight into that oneness I find tends to increase the desire to develop the respect for oneself and other. This is part of the reason I made the post.

@Yimpa Yeah, I don't want you to leave. I think, I should have communicated better. I interpreted the post as trolly, but, if you didn't mean it that way I am sorry. @Natasha Tori Maru Interesting perspective. We are one, that is for sure. A direct insight into that oneness I find tends to increase the desire to develop the respect for oneself and other. This is part of the reason I made the post.

@Yimpa Okay, my apologies.

@Princess Arabia Thanks for clarifying because I thought you meant reply to every comment as well. What you say makes sense. Interesting to consider. I have to think about that.

I personally use it often. I watched the video until just after the Ad. It’s pretty logical up to that point. If it starts to break down because you purposely distort it, that is interesting but doesn’t to me mean it’s stupid or not useful. It offers lots of nuance naturally. It clearly offered plenty of nuance from the beginning. Guiding Alex to decide for himself. But, if you force it into limitations and then complain of inconsistency ignoring its offered nuance, recognition of ethical complexities, and it’s contextual awareness demonstrated early on… that’s not really fault of the AI. That’s on you. It’s far more accurate than a person. It’s also not meant to think for you.

This is a question I want to ask everyone here, Mods, users, Leo, Myself. I mean, if it’s a personal development forum what are we doing here? Where are we headed? I think as Mods we can do better respecting each other as mods, and mods to users. I say this because I see it, have felt it in the past in conflict with mods, users, etc and my own shortcomings in these areas. Ideally, this forum and its regulars grow to a level of maturity and consciousness this place reflects the work and purpose of personal development, spiritual work. We come here saying we are interested in these subjects. But, are we blossoming? Can we smell the sweet nectar of Wisdom amongst us?

@Kinjal Oh yeah? Tell us more about that if you want. @Nemra Definitely important that we as users of the forum have proper expectations that this is a casual chat room about these topics surrounding personal development. Each of us relate to the forum differently, are in different seasons of life etc. You bring up good points. I can do better with grasping context before responding. I’d like to see better grammar too. Though, I don’t expect perfection.

@Something Funny When I worked in accounting it was necessary. But, it likely can be distracting depending on how you use it. For example having 2 things at once.

@Davino Good question Davino. I like when we seek clarity. That’s a good reminder.

@Princess Arabia Hmm, that’s a fair point. It’s good practice though in my opinion not to do that. So I shared my perspective. I think it would be a mistake to think I’m telling him how to act respectful. However, we can each work to communicate that as we communicate here. I think a distinction can be made between what my post is about, and a general request not to do something on the forum that I think muddies threads. There is no need to quote the entire multiple paragraphs to then write a sentence. The quote feature is great when you are responding to something specific.

@AerisVahnEphelia Good point about not making multiple posts. I will work on that. I noticed it when I did it but I will improve. With your regards to saying I was being disrespectful towards you. I think you know I wasn't. Please don't gaslight or insinuate violence towards me or other members of the forum. I did provide a warning for that. Again, conflict and disagreement is not the same as disrespect. Holding each other accountable to forum etiquette is not disrespect. However, these things can be done in disrespectful ways. I invite anyone feeling disrespected to me to let me know so I can discuss it and reflect. I respect the members of this forum. I respect myself. I have conflicts with myself and others. This is part of being a group/ system. My comment on your post was matter of fact, and because I am looking to cultivate a thread that is more focused and down to earth on how we interact on the forum, not these grand concepts of good and evil. Though, I acknowledge those contemplations as worth in other containers. You are calling what I am promoting a "dream". I disagree. The forum has guidelines and we are very lenient towards you guys (Leo is lenient towards us) because we (he knows) know that growth takes time. This thread, and others I will create each month will be designed to remind us of what we should already know, or intuit as students of spiritual and personal development. If we don't already know these things, then this will be for those interested or who find value in learning these things. Of course, people are free to choose how they act. This forum does have guidelines. It does have a purpose. People should ask themselves if they are interested in the purpose of the forum.