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How does the idea of purity hold up to our actions, given the relativity of most of what we think, do, consume, create, etc? For example: Eating meat even though it causes an awareness to suffer IE slaughtering the animal...? Vs eating a vegetable which doesn't. How do we measure the purity of a teacher? Or of a teaching. By purity I mean closest to Truth and the Good and God.

@Conscious life Are you being a jokester?

@electroBeam I like how this comment wedged into my head and the ideas it gave me. I don't have a vision board but it's something I am looking into. And no, I don't think it was exactly 'spiritual conditioning' but I see your point. You are right. I fell in love with music and video and it was my main focus and love, and I poured a lot of time into mastering it. I would have mystical experiences or like 'Downloads' as complete songs. It was really a interesting time creating the songs. Now that muse I was following has moved onto something bigger. All the while exploring reality through books. I did a bunch of really cool stuff with music and video... organizing photographers, graphic designers, volunteers..., got a grant, started a business, relationships, first clients yada yada and really pushing my entrepreneur muscles. It was like, an early taste of business and doing work that effects my community. The bug has bit me and it's becoming clear that Music is actually really limited. I think everyone has a different thing they do, or spiritually connect with. I am taking Leo's life purpose course and I am reading books, trying things, and I think what I am really struggling with is my identity, dreams, interests are at a cross road. Learning to code has been really fun. IT lights me up!

@Serotoninluv @remember You are right. I don't think we should exist in power hierarchy when we think of our spirituality, if thats what you mean't? Also, Yes. I don't know what to expect yet from being on the actualized forum. But, I am not part of any spiritual school, I am a student of truth. Also, I know little and I am a life long learner. I agree its more complex than simply have spirituality being vertical and psychology being horizontal. All models are relative and limited, yet can be useful even if somewhat inaccurate to how we see reality once we have developed further and understand the whole inner work maze of life. I got the model from a book about the relationship between western psychology and eastern spirituality. For me, spirituality being vertical has to do with letting go and transcending, the enlightening aspects of spiritual practice. Which of course is more nuanced. developed through meditation. beingness. And the horizontal has to do with our ego and how it interacts in relationship to other. So, shadow work, working on your neurotic symptoms, self image. This involves talk therapy, counciling. intellect. East - Vertical work West - Horizontal Work I know all dualities collapse.

@Nahm Thanks!

@Nahm I think so. I sometimes get these huge rushes of love and joy and creativity as my mind explodes with images of potential apps or, businesses, platforms surrounding technology. I've been working through confusion for a few years now. And, yeah I am starting to realize it really sparks me up inside... I think big picture thinking is a strength of mine and I think as I develop more experience and hard skills that I can provide a great gift for humans.

1. Purity is equal to unconditional love? But to do that is going to take an understanding of nothingness and selflessness. But, ahah obviously the paradoxical self love...? Basically, as God, I am trying to understand myself better. There seems to be a lot of relativity taking place, and a lot of bullshit everywhere. I am only interested in the highest teachings. The highest and nothing else will do. Thats why I've been listening to you. 2. I know you are a part of me. And to me you seem to represent the greatest... stream... your work represents a warm stream... in a cold ocean. How I treat others can vary, and how I manifest can vary. There is not I and other and just being. 3. This is an interesting point. How does Dirt trust that what looks like light, isnt really more dirt?

Hey glad I discovered this video! I am going to have to check out the book as for the video and how I felt as a view: I found it a little hard to follow. If I was in the same room I'd ask you to speak slower, and clearer. I also found the music outside my taste for this kind of content. I almost wonder if there are frameworks out their to use, or ways of being clearer or more concise with the information. Almost like being more musical and speaking quality with a greater intent. Also I did not finish the video Edit: all as someone who is also working on presenting information I replied as if I would watch myself Much love! Staying posted for more videos

@Preety_India Psychology is horizontal Spirituality is vertical

@Rasheed Could rap as a global phenomenon have any strangeloop like qualities? Also I am wary as calling rap red, when I think it along the spectrum.

@Nahm That was like a Gong!

Um, It's new and new things take time. relative

interesting thread

A good book is I think "Peace In Times of War" by Pema Chodron Look up the concept of Shenpa and @Leo Gura's comment is great too. Reminds me of : The untethered soul by Michael Singer which may help you to dive deeper into his point. Because its so simply said it likely won't cut deep, but is pretty much the thing. You create the anger yourself. Develop unattachment. Work on your self image. Contemplate what thoughts are. Notice how your heart works and how it handles your emotional energy. Self love. Make mistakes and integrate. Make persistent and continue effort each day. Maybe reading Non-Violent Communication by Marshell Rosenburg Phd. could give you a framework to work from too because it breaks down what I found to be the elements of communication and emotions in how we communicate. Thought: 1. Realize how your personality changes with context 2. Research the concept of transference Leo has great episodes on anger, trolls, judgement, devilry, survival etc that are worth watching and completing. I've found that by feeling my anger, allowing thoughts to express themselves on certain notebooks with my reMarkable Tablet, remembering self love and it's my absolute right to make mistakes when angry, or to express anger (counter intuitive point that helps remove needless guilt as I work towards self mastery)... has helped me to understand my anger better. I think the most important thing is to gain awareness of the anger, to work towards understanding my desires, my identity, the things my ego identifies with, areas in my thoughts in which I am mean to myself, double standards, fears, defenses, insecurities..... Good luck! and much love! I still have much to learn and a lot more territory to explore.

@Leo Gura Is purity equal to nothingness? When I am pure, I will see you as an equal. Regardless of your past I would love you. If I was pure would I see others as myself? If I was pure, would this mean I have freed myself of transference? How does purity manifest in a human when we have animal instincts?

I personally 'over' buy books. I am also trying to map together a world understanding that allows me to Achieve my life purpose and live the best life possible. So, when I struggle with relationships I buy a book on relationships for example. Leo's list is great, and as you are developing your map take note of where Leo's booklist fits in the map of human existence and possibility. Thought: 1. Buy books relevant to the things you are interested in general 2. Buy books that answer questions you have, 3. Buy books about your dreams, things you liked to achieve. 4. Buy books that lay down programming for future self help books (I listed some I used) 5. Take risks when buying books 6. Read books counter to your opinions 7. Buy books that prep you for reading other books 8. Read books that focus on key areas of your life 9. Read books that are literature but use metaphor for expanding your big picture 10. Consider the 80/20 rule so you can focus on the key books that you will need. 11. Use apps like headway, 12min, and others that allow you to read/listen to microbooks that summarize the key points of books. This allows you to quick gain key insights of 5-10 books easily each week. 12. Read books that could potentially act as multipliers, worm holes, gateways, skeletal structures to in your life. Here are 3 books that I think will aid in peoples programming on how they choose books: 1. The Magic Of Your Personal Brain Power by Howard Vernon 2. The Code of the Extraordinary mind by Vishen Lakhiani 3. The First 20 hours: How to learn anything fast by Josh Kaufman In my opinion each book is worth looking up and reading because they lay down different frameworks for reading and personal growth. I'd love to go into greater detail about these books and how they have helped me! Hope this comment is of interest,

@Conscious life This seems like a very important topic: Let's open it up

@Patt Hey Patt! I am also 24, and also dealing with some things similar. From my understanding you are: 1. trying to build understanding of yourself, and what do with the life you have, 2. You are comparing yourself to others 3. You care what others think of you 4. You think that being 24 means you have to have life figured out 5. You are a creative 6. You are afraid to step out and try things 7. You waffle from one idea of doing to the next 8. When you imagine what you would like to do you instantly hide from it and distract yourself 9. You have internal dialogues of your elders, friends and family in your head who talk you down or out of choosing (This is transference) 10. You are highly motivated, capable, intelligent, young, curious, thinking, and you are asking questions and coming to this forum because at least part of you knows you can change, work on yourself and figure things out. My questions for you are: 1. What would you do if there were no boundaries at all? 2. What 5 things would you think might be worth doing? 3. What change do you wan't to see in the world? 4. Are you reading books and doing self inquiry. Are you aware of the relativity of life purpose? 5. Are you taking time to bring yourself into the present moment? 6. Have you heard of the notion of 'Taking small bets?' ---- I am in the same boat as you in many ways. I am young and I still have a lot of questions. I am also 24 and theres still things like: Education and finances: that I need to figure out in greater detail. I have taken my personal growth and life long education as the most important thing I can do right now. No life purpose, success, happiness, relationships etc can develop unless I actually develop myself to the level I need to be. Learning takes place when we consume and understand information, and we apply it to the real world. This is what I think we do at our age. We develop the best map possible: Read, consume information etc. And we apply it as much as we can to the territory: Applying for grants, meeting people, volunteering, taking risks, going to open mics, doing something just for the sake of learning from it. Become a student of humans nature, remember the 80/20 principal. All things I am trying. Though dropped out of school because I realized I needed to develop self knowledge, work through depression and anxiety etc (mystical experiences led me this way). I have read more books than most of my friend who are in school, have greater self knowledge, self motivated, I've developed habits, worldview, my metaphysics etc. And the universe is bringing my opportunities where my large picture thinking and softskills have managed to land me mentors who believe in my and I am developing more hard skills thanks to them hiring me part time. I will have to create my own path this I know. I am a visionary. It's scary, and I have a large amount of resistance to the call! Perhaps you are too! What is your hero's journey? I am on track in some ways toward moving toward my life purpose, theres still lots of questions, maybes, risks, and doubts. There is also the internal work of transcending the neurotic symptoms I've developed from trauma and years of poor self talk and self image. Over all, just eat grapes for now. Don't worry about the wine ahaha.

The video is very interesting. Has me feeling doubtful, annoyed... I flip flop back and forth. I refuse to believe. I will be comfortable in my confusion and not knowing. My defenses toward Leo are up. He is someone I put trust in over the past while as I worked on myself. This video... Has me questioning a lot of things. It's very interesting.

Interesting Response. But of course I am stuck in cycling relativity as I process what I am reading. Ego needs say, I respect leaders who speak compassionately. This is Leo, just being himself and thats good. Not really high level, but casual... Note: Awareness, I identify as Vegan. I think Leo, Being selfless, understanding moral relativity... Leo can do anything he wants... It's all relative. We can all do anything we want. However, eating meat seems pretty selfish. Leo has researched food well and he knows. Yeah, we get it it's all relative it all collapses in the one. Doesn't mean this isn't part of a devilry. If you really ask yourself why am I eating this? Wouldn't you come to the conclusion that eating animals is devilry? How does someone purified act? How does someone who authentically love 'I' treat others and engage with them? These are things I am trying to figure out. I am a selfish devil. Ah thats right Leo. We are Devils. Don't tell me you are purified! Killing others for food. Love You Leo.

Not even stage orange. But, Wherever you search... Keep searching! Like they say 'If you meet buddha standing in the middle of the road, Kill Him'.

So... Psychosis?

"Human beings in a mob What's a mob to a king? What's a king to a God? What's a God to a non-believer Who don't believe in anything?" - No Church In The Wild by Jay Z, Kanye West, Frank Ocean, The-Dream Pretty good Rap lyrics! I agree that most of rap is stage Red. I've worked with a lot of artists from different genres and backgrounds. I shoot live music videos and put on live events. Most musicians I know, rappers or not have a range of values. I don't think they know themselves that will. They display values from across the spiral both as individuals and the whole of who've I've worked with. I am longing for more music that points to God like Rumi. Is stage red rap dangerous? I don't know. Though I do think we are in part what we consume. Every once in a while I like a good rap song! "Pull up like a demon on god, Lookin like I still do fraud, fly a private jet with the rod! - ZEZE by Kodak Black (:

@Yog I know when I was depressed, sad, lost and angry the music I listened to reflected that. I had come across some information that the quality of music we listen to can make us happy or sad. I started listening to happier music and I think it made me happier over time to be honest. Something uplifting everymorning instead of down dreary, or violent!

Reading this book at the minute! It's pretty direct book that gets to the heart of many of my relationship issues. It's been a grate asset to the foundation of relationship books I have read! I appreciate David's perspectives, and as someone who is actively integrating their masculine and feminine sides it has been a surprising map and mirror.It has helped me to make sense of previous failed relationships and gain more insight into myself. I am currently halfway. I can see this masculine feminine interplay already in the relationships that surround me. (Male) I have been realizing I have the capacity for both my core and sexual centres to shift between masculine and feminine. Dominant and submissive. I still have fear and egoic attachments to letting go of my negative motivation towards my masculine mask. Society shaped this ego to fear its full expressiveness. I know I have masculine and feminine elements and though not its intention has helped me to integrate further into my feminine shadow. I don't know what a human is, nor a man or a women. The goal is to step into my authentic power. The Avatar should be able to freely express itself in love.