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You are either infinite love or you are asleep lol Love isn't always pretty

@ivankiss Lol... Nobody is a saint by nature either. Literally look at the world around you. You are living in a fantasy. If you want people to be perfect, you don't get it yet. Reality is how it is. People have been far more mean to Leo than he has been to anyone else. He might not kiss your ass every second, but he could have taken down his video or website a long time ago when people started saying mean shit about him.

I like Leo, ahaha It's funny how deeply he has taught me to love reality He is also a dick sometimes.... Welcome to life. Leo being rude < many world wars, rapes, genocides, murders, millions of deaths from pharma companies...etc.. So, don't judge a teacher based on petty things Also, don't let a teacher be your big daddy for you... God might be love, but its capable of being a fucking dick too. You also don't know Leo in his personal life. He could be anyone.

"you are deeply loved and cherished forever"

Save it, my life tells me. When you are 25 and have like 20-30k saved up you'll be laughing as you know yourself better and wont be asking others how to spend it.

There is a good book here called Not Nice which might be useful for you. as a 'nice' person, its very useful. https://www.amazon.ca/Not-Nice-Pleasing-Speaking-Unapologetically-ebook/dp/B076VVH14M

Hmm, wouldn't use spiral dynamics like that. It's not mean to measure spirituality.

@Phyllis Wagner I personally think he reaks of ego. The thing about a lot of new age type circles is imo there isn't much difference for them between reality and imagination. People want to believe in things, and Bashar wants to feel special and make a good living doing it... Which he does. People like exciting weird stuff... Is channeling real? Idk. I don't get vibes from his as wise, but really more of an ego game he plays with himself and others.

I don't agree with this, but see what you are pointing to. There are many degrees of awakening. You can study Ken Wilburs 4 quadrant model of Waking up, Growing up, Cleaning up and showing up. The problem is, are you enlightened, mature or loving or not? The rest is just tools and concepts. We can only bring those to the level we are at. There is no faking being enlightened. Though, many will fool you only because they have already fooled themselves. Fools fool fools.

That Ra' , what did you do with Connor?

@Consilience Hmm, Book of Ra eh?

@Leo Gura Because, when you know you know. It's just this bubble. As far as I can see it. I am still not awake yet though.

Everything is okay, you are safe, I forgive you and I understand.

I don't know what to think of this. Sounds like a lack of balance. But, I am judging so I don't know. I went through this path early on my awakening journey as me ego attache to this idea, attached to that idea. Starseeds might be read, but I have not directly experienced them in my own experience... I think the great thing about spiritual work is just being present and seeing that it's really just this bubble that is real, everything is just concepts. I know there have been times I thought I was something I wasn't. Personally, the only thing I know is the being. I am Yeah Way!

Imagine the following and begin to work towards it. 1. Perfect skeletal alignment 2. Perfect breathing 3. Perfect lungs 4. Perfect connection to your genitals 5. Zero pain in your body 6. Perfect Qi circulation 7. No need to hide from pain with weed, alcohol, sweets, netflix, porn because you already feel perfect 8. Perfect clarity 9. Always doing what you intend to do, not out of mechanical action but out of consciousness 10. Imagine full self acceptance 11. No fear 12. No trauma 13. Nothing to do 14. No one to prove to 15. Fully accepting the sleepiness of others Perfect understanding (still on my path)

You can only really be happy with enlightenment. Awakening is more than just ego, It's developing such a high level awareness of how to operate you vehicle and of reality that you create whatever you want within yourself.

Vishen Laikhiani of Mind Valley He interviewed Ken Wilber recently, big fan. He also promotes substances like ausyasca etc. Great book he wrote too, Code Of The Extraordinary Mind... Other great Youtube podcasts/ interviewers Impact Theory? Lewis Howe? Simulation

@WaveInTheOcean I get that. But... See, we could use some socratic method here to agree on what we mean by self.

@Leo Gura I am not convinced of this at this time. Leo still have a 'self' though it may be more mature than others. As far as I can tell anyway. But, I mean... if one rock it blue and one rock is green is that the self? Idk

Talk to Infinite Waters lol

@Leo Gura JP has been opening up a lot I think, would be interesting