Thought Art

Not our nervous system? Projections of God's mind.. But, here we are. I don't get it if I am dreaming them up... Then why I am stuck in this limited god damn dream I have no power over... I mean, I have some power but like, 5% of what I would like to have.

I am definitely feeling emotions... But with all my attention on school, survival, healing my body and my mind... Music gets put to the side. I fucking hate this

Thanks... I just want to make music. But, right now it feel impossible. I feel like I've lost my flame. If I am going to surrender to reality, then... there is no difference between living or dying. I have to be able to create a life I can enjoy. I just want to be life Arcadefire that is the most inspiring shit I have ever seen. But, it feels completely impossible. I've been going through this for some time now. I kind of hate myself. I am disappointed in my life. I feel trapped existentially.. I don't know what to do. It just seems mathmatically impossible at this point. God ain't gonna come down from the clouds and make things work out... God can suck my dick. Leos Teachings about me being the only bubble just doesn't add up with this struggle I am having. I can't reconcile me being the only person, or bubble that is real... and me not having an amazing life where I get what I want. What is the fucking point of that? Why do I have to make due with this shitty limitations I have.... Fuck this.

Not yet.

Men hit on me all the time.. I just let it go.

I highly recommend you read Vernon Howards book. I think they do a good job at both grounding you in reality and mysticism. Pathways To Perfect Living I found to be very grounding.

I wish you luck along your journey! I found the video a little hard to follow. But I look forward to seeing you progress along your journey! I think I would look at you as a teacher more so in a few years once you have developed greater stability. You can lead and inspire people. But, in order to really teach and be an authority I personally think you would need to ground yourself more. We are one. We are in this together. Continue along your divine journey. How do you know how to trust your awakenings? Your mind? all of this? You know by how stable you are I think. You feel grounded, balanced, unattached, rational, scientific, open minded. The journey of working through self deception etc is more what I am interested in following you for imo. We love you, good work. Keep going. You inspire me to share my journey as well.

I noice that my stomach is full and I roll around and don't sleep at well. I don't think sleeping with a full stomach is good for you. It is a habit I myself need to develop.... eating hours away from bed time.

Then, let it be music.

@Kalki Avatar "your not gonna transcend any human pettiness until you die" I think that is false. You can totally transcend parts of the ego and experience egolessness. But yeah.. You will need an ego and to work your whole life. He makes sense.

Each tool or practice has it's own practice. They help and aid each other. 1 5meodmt trip blows meditation out of the water for deep God experience. But for day to day mindfulness and training your mind meditation is better. They help eachother. Become integral

"There is more to reality than what humans can perceive, therefore reality itself is an illusion" I think is not the full picture of what Deepak and mystics are saying. They are saying the entire way you see reality is relative, and even reality is relative therefore it's an illusion of consciousness.

There no fear of being destroyed. This is the place for these conversations. I think you think you are pointing out flaws but you aren't really backing anything up. You are just saying what you think imo. Every single person has flaws. That is human.

Wrong about? To me what you are saying about authority is obvious at this point. Though, also an important reminder. Like I have already said... I am epistemologically humble. Leo does get a relative authority over others in my view simply do to the nature of his situation in life. I of course read and learn from many sources. We can all be wrong. Do you think professional basket ball players always get every shot? It is a matter of accuracy. What is he right or wrong about? You don't know. That is the point. So, we go about doing the work.

How do you know who is an authority? Did you actually confirm this in your own experience or was it a belief? I will take time to read that thread in a couple weeks I think. I am just getting into the Krya book list stuff. Leo isn't infallible I think for sure. But, he has a very unique perspective. Thankfully, if it did happen the forum exists for these types of corrections to take place for us. anyway.

I agree. But, Mastery is not simply the amount of years you took some drugs or substances, or even the amount of years you did a profession. It is a mindset and you can pursue mastery (Leo literally works full time on this, while I think Rob has a day job) in a different way. You can far surpass someone of 20 years experience in 5 years if you train way smarter and have more time to dedicate to the craft. You have to really look at what the two people are doing. Did you practice everyday for 5 years 8 hours a day with all the best resources? Or did you know about and enjoy a thing for 20 years on the weekend? Big difference.

You wouldn't know because you haven't read books like you claim. So, you may be right that it is blind leading the blind. But, it is also possible you are so ignorant and uneducated you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Not meaning offence, I am personally epistemologically humbled.. So I see that way. Which is why I remain open as I gain more raw knowledge and experience to contemplate and grow.

This is not necessarily true. They are very different types of people with different types of educations, experiences, epistomologies and amounts of free time raw hours put into contemplating this stuff. Leo is an intellectual and Rob is a self proclaimed average Joe. "sorry i have not read any metaphysics and epistamology . i am speaking with a mastery lense" My opinion is your lens lacks holism. You contradict yourself with that statement. I think at because you proclaim your ignorance of a wider understanding of reality (which is what we are really talking about)

Best thing to do for me is to be open to all perspectives. But, do the work being grounded in truth instead of defending any pet theory.

I thought i would be a good idea to share a personal finance thread for links and tips on how to gain awareness and systems for personal finances. I am in the process of updating my own system and found this simple video. Good luck to improving or creating new habits so you can plan long term. I used to use premade sheets (or just honestly go by the seat of my pants for years)... To me this is the most foundational habit you can install for long term achieving.

If you have trouble consider doing a guided live session. I know of one that happens online every saturday night.

I personally resonate with what Deepak is saying and I do wish that Adeptus would: 1. Be more kind and compassionate to people who have different views than him in general 2. Be more humble and open minded toward him and to see what he is really saying before he says what he is saying is bullshit. I also think adeptus makes good points within his own logical and rational understanding of things. I think that it is true that there is no reality. What you call 'reality' is completely relative to the 'state' or 'manifestation' you are in.That it is completely relative and that depending on the way reality is dreaming at the time it is dream that is what is relatively true. What Adeptus calls reality, just regular old dumb reality is an illusion, and the models he has of reality are illusion too. So it's relative illusion nested in relative illusion. Everything is COMPLETELY relative even time. There is no reality. Just the reality that is. compared to nothing. Who can reality turn to to ask if it is reality? Nothing. Just this awareness here. Even amongst humans the way reality is seen is relative which is why him using the definition of reality in the way he does lacks any absolute meaning to me. Because we all have different epistemology and experiential understanding of reality. I personally think (though I love Rob as a fellow human) that he is arrogant to think that he understands more than other people and feels the need to shit on people. I have nothing against him grounding himself in rational, materialism out of fear of losing his mind from psychedelics. Personally, I am humbled by everything I am learning about reality. I am open minded and I see relative truth in both his and Deepaks views. I think the case that reality is an illusion is just way to strong when you go deep enough to ignore it. But, to see that takes study, open minded and the ability to embrace radical paradox which Rob does not do. I don't know if he is much of a reader? There is lots he can read about this stuff from lots of different experts. Reality and truth require open mindedness and the ability to hold simultaneous seeming paradoxes. But, that doesn't mean we shouldn't master our survival, or take our health seriously. I think Rob firmly grounds and identifies with his life, mind, body, and perspective on reality. Which is useful for selfish survival but not understanding the absolute nature of reality. The ego I think can't fully grasp that it's a construct of infinite consciousness. Welcome to relativity, perspective and interpretation. I am still forming my understanding of reality and will likely be humble for many years to come. We will see. "The tao that can be spoken is not the eternal tao"

There is video footage of actual protests lol... I am sure it is satire but.. anyway.

This area of his teaching I think is dangerous and could be an ego game. From MY perspective, he has no consciousness. That is true. But the same goes for everyone else. I mean, we can't all be the only awareness bubble. Then again, we could. This goes beyond my understanding and I am curious about all of this. Can't we all have our own awareness and be God? This seems arbitrary. Leo doesn't exist, but he chased pleasure in the past? I admit I am imagining everything outside of my present experience. I am not following Leo's logic in the God realization video. The entire thing doesn't really make sense to me.